MAGAThread XIII: The Summit of Putin

[Telconi]

That's very much a minority of Trump supporters. Maybe ten at the very most. The rest are reasonable people, you know.

Trump supporters are reasonable people? Was that a serious suggestion?

Define reasonable.

I'd say a reasonable person votes in their best interest within this context. And a lot of Trump voters did exactly that.

[The Black Forrest]

Trump supporters are reasonable people? Was that a serious suggestion?

Define reasonable.

I'd say a reasonable person votes in their best interest within this context. And a lot of Trump voters did exactly that.

So the Hillary and Bernie voters are reasonable?

[Telconi]

I'd say a reasonable person votes in their best interest within this context. And a lot of Trump voters did exactly that.

So the Hillary and Bernie voters are reasonable?

Some.

[Thermodolia]

> Lowering the cost of electricity and keeping jobs is bad policy

TFW

>Ruining the environment and helping to make humans extinct by 2100 is good policy
tfw

Well I’ll probably be dead by then anyway

[Unstoppable Empire of Doom]

What exactly does trump think will happen. Kim can't denuclearize. He also cannot give up power. So he is trading a peace treaty worth nothing to him for legitimacy, possible reductions in trade sanctions, and probably increased trade from China. Trump meanwhile gets an ego trip to say "I am the greatest, rocket boy was a good negotiator, we got everything we want, more then we want, but also, so great of a deal, I want to say, Obama could not have done that" as if it were a meaningful accomplishment.

Even if you know the bad guy isn't going to drop the gun, it's always a good idea to shout "Drop the gun!" before you shoot him. It just looks better. I strongly suspect Kim will want a deal he can break quietly, Trump will refuse any deal that isn't packed with verification, and he'll be able to say he did the best he could to prevent what he does next from being necessary.

Trump hopefully isn't dumb enough to start a war. North Korea is still essentially guaranteed by China and it would be a huge roll of the dice on whether or not this results in ww3. Even if it were to become a proxy war we are talking about millions dead at a moment when even the "special Ally" probably would condemn the actions.

[The Black Forrest]

So?.....Asbestos is not dangerous and does't need to be reviewed?......

http://www.newsweek.com/pruitt-trump-as ... ump-962703

[Oil exporting People]

Solar energy techs, wind energy techs, programming, nursing and lab work, trade jobs like welding and construction, I could go on. The government is offering all of these retraining programs, a lot of them for free or almost free, and yet miners there aren't taking them even though they offer more money and are much safer than mining.

Any other incorrect assumptions you'd like to make?

And none of those jobs exist here, you might actually find it worth your time to visit the place or at least research it before attempting to lecture one who has on hat is here. About the only openings I can think of that come close to what you're suggesting is in home care, which is rather shit and pay is about half of what a coal mining job is.

[San Lumen]

So?.....Asbestos is not dangerous and does't need to be reviewed?......

http://www.newsweek.com/pruitt-trump-as ... ump-962703

Nothing shocks me from him anymore. And his cult like followers will believe it too. I wish he'd come out and say he think the Earth is flat, astronauts are actors, the moon landings didn't happen and gravity and dinosaurs don't exist. Many of his supporters would probably believe it.

[Oil exporting People]

1. Yes, coal and oil are killing the planet as we speak, it's this little thing called "Global Warming."

No, coal isn't in general, nor specifically in the context of American coal. It would also come as a hell of a shock to everyone that every period of warming in history was because of coal usage, as we're not aware of Mammoths burning it, for instance.

2. Really, then why is it killing the economy of the Appalachians? (Hint: Putting all your eggs in one basket usually doesn't turn out well)

Coal is an inanimate object; it can't do anything. What really killed the economy was regulations placed upon it at the end of the last decade and start of this one. Dutch Disease is indeed an issue, but artificially killing it does nothing either.

3. Then why the hell do you support coal?

Because Fusion doesn't exist yet and coal provides jobs.

[San Lumen]

1. Yes, coal and oil are killing the planet as we speak, it's this little thing called "Global Warming."

No, coal isn't in general, nor specifically in the context of American coal. It would also come as a hell of a shock to everyone that every period of warming in history was because of coal usage, as we're not aware of Mammoths burning it, for instance.

2. Really, then why is it killing the economy of the Appalachians? (Hint: Putting all your eggs in one basket usually doesn't turn out well)

Coal is an inanimate object; it can't do anything. What really killed the economy was regulations placed upon it at the end of the last decade and start of this one. Dutch Disease is indeed an issue, but artificially killing it does nothing either.

3. Then why the hell do you support coal?

Because Fusion doesn't exist yet and coal provides jobs.

Yes coal doesnt pollute and and destroying entire mountains and forests to get that precious toxic black stuff is perfectly fine.

[Oil exporting People]

"Coal...isn't in danger of killing the planet" - OEP
"I'm not denying global warming! Fallacy, fallacy!" - Also OEP

Because saying coal isn't as bad as being claimed automatically equals saying Global Warming isn't real?

[The Black Forrest]

Because Fusion doesn't exist yet and coal provides jobs.

Aren't the Germans working on something in that area?

Coal doesn't provide the jobs it once did and even a few coal miners and owners have commented they don't think the jobs will return like donnie promised......

[Oil exporting People]

Yes coal doesnt pollute and and destroying entire mountains and forests to get that precious toxic black stuff is perfectly fine.

Depends upon the coal and where; in China and India it definitely does pollute. In America, regulations put into place between 1978 and 1992 made it pretty safe.

[Thermodolia]

1. Yes, coal and oil are killing the planet as we speak, it's this little thing called "Global Warming."

No, coal isn't in general, nor specifically in the context of American coal. It would also come as a hell of a shock to everyone that every period of warming in history was because of coal usage, as we're not aware of Mammoths burning it, for instance.

2. Really, then why is it killing the economy of the Appalachians? (Hint: Putting all your eggs in one basket usually doesn't turn out well)

Coal is an inanimate object; it can't do anything. What really killed the economy was regulations placed upon it at the end of the last decade and start of this one. Dutch Disease is indeed an issue, but artificially killing it does nothing either.

3. Then why the hell do you support coal?

Because Fusion doesn't exist yet and coal provides jobs.

Ya but regular nuclear power does exist and we should support it alongside coal which we can then cheaply export

[Ifreann]

"Coal...isn't in danger of killing the planet" - OEP
"I'm not denying global warming! Fallacy, fallacy!" - Also OEP

Because saying coal isn't as bad as being claimed automatically equals saying Global Warming isn't real?

But you didn't say that. You said that coal isn't in danger of killing the planet.

[San Lumen]

Yes coal doesnt pollute and and destroying entire mountains and forests to get that precious toxic black stuff is perfectly fine.

Depends upon the coal and where; in China and India it definitely does pollute. In America, regulations put into place between 1978 and 1992 made it pretty safe.

It doesnt change the undeniable fact the smoke produced is toxic.

[Oil exporting People]

Aren't the Germans working on something in that area?

Many people are, and Lockheed Martin recently patented their design and are claiming to have it ready sometime in the 2020s with commercial usage by 2030. Point remains, however, it still isn't available now.

Coal doesn't provide the jobs it once did and even a few coal miners and owners have commented they don't think the jobs will return like donnie promised......

It doesn't provide the jobs like it used to because the industry nearly died the past decade; this argument is tantamount to shooting someone in the chest and then saying their heart doesn't work like it used to. As for business, coal exports have surged by 60% the last year.

[Ifreann]

Anyway, in more important news, Dennis Rodman has apparently arrived in Singapore. Will Trump have to share the Nobel with him?

[Thermodolia]

Yes coal doesnt pollute and and destroying entire mountains and forests to get that precious toxic black stuff is perfectly fine.

Depends upon the coal and where; in China and India it definitely does pollute. In America, regulations put into place between 1978 and 1992 made it pretty safe.

San Lumen hates poor people, rural people, and other people who don’t live in cities.

[Oil exporting People]

Because saying coal isn't as bad as being claimed automatically equals saying Global Warming isn't real?

But you didn't say that. You said that coal isn't in danger of killing the planet.

....I literally said that, and further said it again in the post you quoted.

[San Lumen]

Depends upon the coal and where; in China and India it definitely does pollute. In America, regulations put into place between 1978 and 1992 made it pretty safe.

San Lumen hates poor people, rural people, and other people who don’t live in cities.

All nonsense

[Oil exporting People]

Depends upon the coal and where; in China and India it definitely does pollute. In America, regulations put into place between 1978 and 1992 made it pretty safe.

It doesnt change the undeniable fact the smoke produced is toxic.

> Because chemistry exists, we need to ban things

[Herskerstad]

Lets make Korea great again.

[San Lumen]

It doesnt change the undeniable fact the smoke produced is toxic.

> Because chemistry exists, we need to ban things

And because economy would should pollute the air and water and destroy entire mountaintops

[Odinburgh]

Please wake me from when this nightmare is over.