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Postby Telconi » Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:16 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Oil exporting People wrote:
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"Coal...isn't in danger of killing the planet" - OEP
"I'm not denying global warming! Fallacy, fallacy!" - Also OEP


Making something hotter doesn't necessarily destroy it.
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Postby New haven america » Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:17 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Oil exporting People wrote:
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"Coal...isn't in danger of killing the planet" - OEP
"I'm not denying global warming! Fallacy, fallacy!" - Also OEP

Damn it Iffy, when will your army of strawmen stop growing!?
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:19 pm

Telconi wrote:
Ifreann wrote:"Coal...isn't in danger of killing the planet" - OEP
"I'm not denying global warming! Fallacy, fallacy!" - Also OEP


Making something hotter doesn't necessarily destroy it.

A valid point if one doesn't understand normal human speech.

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Postby Ifreann » Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:22 pm

New haven america wrote:
Ifreann wrote:"Coal...isn't in danger of killing the planet" - OEP
"I'm not denying global warming! Fallacy, fallacy!" - Also OEP

Damn it Iffy, when will your army of strawmen stop growing!?

Never. I am the eternal king of straw, and none will be spared my English literacy.

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Postby Terra Novae Libero » Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:24 pm

How big of a role will Dennis Rodman play
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Postby Petrasylvania » Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:28 pm

Ifreann wrote:
New haven america wrote:Damn it Iffy, when will your army of strawmen stop growing!?

Never. I am the eternal king of straw, and none will be spared my English literacy.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:37 pm

As stated before I would not mind seeing the war end(I had family fight there). Peace on the peninsula with it being denuclearized.....

I have an extremely low opinion of donnie. So much I would consider giving the shrub a third term and my views on him are all over the site.

If it happens I would say ok you did a good thing. If this happens I would not believe until proven otherwise he planned this. More like he fell over this on his way to golf.

I don't think it will happen. Especially, with his comments of he doesn't need to prepare as he was preparing his whole life.

At best a "paper tiger" which Republicans like to offer.

It's a shame really.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:40 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:As stated before I would not mind seeing the war end(I had family fight there). Peace on the peninsula with it being denuclearized.....

I have an extremely low opinion of donnie. So much I would consider giving the shrub a third term and my views on him are all over the site.

If it happens I would say ok you did a good thing. If this happens I would not believe until proven otherwise he planned this. More like he fell over this on his way to golf.

I don't think it will happen. Especially, with his comments of he doesn't need to prepare as he was preparing his whole life.

At best a "paper tiger" which Republicans like to offer.

It's a shame really.

If anything good actually happens it would boil down to the people around Donnie planning their asses off and bailing the sorry lazy shit out like he's been used to his entire life.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby The Lone Alliance » Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:44 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:If anything good actually happens it would boil down to the people around Donnie planning their asses off and bailing the sorry lazy shit out like he's been used to his entire life.

I'm sure we can say the same on Un's side as well.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:46 pm

I’ll say it again, they both want the same thing: status quo. They both need a boogeyman, an eminent threat and they both need to seem tough in the face of that threat. So they’re going to come up with nothing that they’ll both sell to their followers as something and the world will keep on spinning.
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Postby Valentine Z » Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:47 pm

I would avoid the place, generally. Even if the security is tight, I would hate to stand in a crowd of sweaty people, trying to wrestle each other to get the best spot to snap a video.

Would just watch it in the comfort of my own home.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:50 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:I’ll say it again, they both want the same thing: status quo. They both need a boogeyman, an eminent threat and they both need to seem tough in the face of that threat. So they’re going to come up with nothing that they’ll both sell to their followers as something and the world will keep on spinning.

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Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Chan Island » Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:51 pm

The Donald actually gets this done, I will be beyond impressed. But let's just wait and see.
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:54 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:I’ll say it again, they both want the same thing: status quo. They both need a boogeyman, an eminent threat and they both need to seem tough in the face of that threat. So they’re going to come up with nothing that they’ll both sell to their followers as something and the world will keep on spinning.

Or they'll keep up the act for a few months so they both look good then go back to status quo whenever they stop getting glorified for it.

Hell I could see Trump and Un cutting a deal that North Korea will act up whenever Trump's is in trouble in order to distract people.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:57 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:I’ll say it again, they both want the same thing: status quo. They both need a boogeyman, an eminent threat and they both need to seem tough in the face of that threat. So they’re going to come up with nothing that they’ll both sell to their followers as something and the world will keep on spinning.

Or they'll keep up the act for a few months so they both look good then go back to status quo whenever they stop getting glorified for it.

Hell I could see Trump and Un cutting a deal that North Korea will act up whenever Trump's is in trouble in order to distract people.


Do you think he will talk about how he deserves the Nobel after the conference?
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:58 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
The Lone Alliance wrote:Or they'll keep up the act for a few months so they both look good then go back to status quo whenever they stop getting glorified for it.

Hell I could see Trump and Un cutting a deal that North Korea will act up whenever Trump's is in trouble in order to distract people.


Do you think he will talk about how he deserves the Nobel after the conference?

Maybe but that'd mean getting the same award Obama got that might cause him to say he wants it but then turn it down.... (To be fair Obama got his for doing nothing)
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Postby Kramanica » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:02 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
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> Lowering the cost of electricity and keeping jobs is bad policy

TFW

>Ruining the environment and helping to make humans extinct by 2100 is good policy
tfw

:rofl:
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:02 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Oil exporting People wrote:
> Lowering the cost of electricity and keeping jobs is bad policy

TFW

>Ruining the environment and helping to make humans extinct by 2100 is good policy
tfw


>actually believing that using coal will kill the entire human species in 82 years
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Postby Kramanica » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:03 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Oil exporting People wrote:
Image

"Coal...isn't in danger of killing the planet" - OEP
"I'm not denying global warming! Fallacy, fallacy!" - Also OEP

"Coal will literally kill the world."
"No it won't."
"You're denying global warming."

???
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Postby Telconi » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:11 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Never. I am the eternal king of straw, and none will be spared my English literacy.

STRAW FOR THE STRAW GOD!!
HULLS FOR THE HULL THRONE!!


Nobody worships you Gauth.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:14 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Do you think he will talk about how he deserves the Nobel after the conference?

Maybe but that'd mean getting the same award Obama got that might cause him to say he wants it but then turn it down.... (To be fair Obama got his for doing nothing)

If Obama ever talked about how he deserved a Nobel there would be multiple skull detonations in the U.S.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby New haven america » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:15 pm

Kramanica wrote:
Ifreann wrote:"Coal...isn't in danger of killing the planet" - OEP
"I'm not denying global warming! Fallacy, fallacy!" - Also OEP

"Coal will literally kill the world."
"No it won't."
"You're denying global warming."

???

You are aware coal and all other fossil fuels cause Global Warming, right?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:16 pm

New haven america wrote:
Kramanica wrote:"Coal will literally kill the world."
"No it won't."
"You're denying global warming."

???

You are aware coal and all other fossil fuels cause Global Warming, right?


But it's clean coal! *nods*
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* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:16 pm

New haven america wrote:
Kramanica wrote:"Coal will literally kill the world."
"No it won't."
"You're denying global warming."

???

You are aware coal and all other fossil fuels cause Global Warming, right?


You are aware that coal will not lead to the deaths of every single member of our species in a few decades, right? It's fine to talk about global warming and our impact on it without devolving into meme tier nonsense like that.
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Postby Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:19 pm

What exactly does trump think will happen. Kim can't denuclearize. He also cannot give up power. So he is trading a peace treaty worth nothing to him for legitimacy, possible reductions in trade sanctions, and probably increased trade from China. Trump meanwhile gets an ego trip to say "I am the greatest, rocket boy was a good negotiator, we got everything we want, more then we want, but also, so great of a deal, I want to say, Obama could not have done that" as if it were a meaningful accomplishment.
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