MAGAThread XIII: The Summit of Putin

[Cannot think of a name]

That's excessive. Coal needs to be gradually phased out if we don't want to ruin people's livelihood.

I mean, considering a lot of coal miners are refusing retraining for other industries, do they really care about their own livelihood?

It's hard to convince people to take the change if there's a bunch of people across the street screaming at the top of their lungs that it's a trap and nothing has to change.

[Oil exporting People]

That's excessive. Coal needs to be gradually phased out if we don't want to ruin people's livelihood.

I mean, considering a lot of coal miners are refusing retraining for other industries, do they really care about their own livelihood?

Because there is nothing in the Appalachians to retrain for, nor is there anything that pays as good as coal mining traditional did. You go from making over $20 to at best around $11 in the local call centers that have become prevalent.

[Oil exporting People]

"About to" being the key word there; regardless good stupid move by the President.

FTFY

> Lowering the cost of electricity and keeping jobs is bad policy

TFW

[Cekoviu]

FTFY

> Lowering the cost of electricity and keeping jobs is bad policy

TFW

>Ruining the environment and helping to make humans extinct by 2100 is good policy
tfw

[Oil exporting People]

> Lowering the cost of electricity and keeping jobs is bad policy

TFW

>Ruining the environment and helping to make humans extinct by 2100 is good policy
tfw

It can't be a TFW when it's false.

[New haven america]

FTFY

> Lowering the cost of electricity and keeping jobs is bad policy

TFW

>Ruining the environment and being incapable of thinking in the long term

You can try to defend his ideocracy all you want, but then you just become part of the problem.

[The South Falls]

I mean, considering a lot of coal miners are refusing retraining for other industries, do they really care about their own livelihood?

Because there is nothing in the Appalachians to retrain for, nor is there anything that pays as good as coal mining traditional did. You go from making over $20 to at best around $11 in the local call centers that have become prevalent.

Did. A lot of things used to pay well, way back when. We're in the future now. Hard truth, we can't sustain coal, just because "it used to pay well." That's what we say when we want to regress into the future, and go back in time.

[Oil exporting People]

Because there is nothing in the Appalachians to retrain for, nor is there anything that pays as good as coal mining traditional did. You go from making over $20 to at best around $11 in the local call centers that have become prevalent.

Did. A lot of things used to pay well, way back when. We're in the future now. Hard truth, we can't sustain coal, just because "it used to pay well." That's what we say when we want to regress into the future, and go back in time.

Still does pay well, which is why the Appalachians are loath to retrain for shitty low paying service jobs.

[Oil exporting People]

> Lowering the cost of electricity and keeping jobs is bad policy

TFW

>Ruining the environment and being incapable of thinking in the long term

You can try to defend his idoocracy all you want, but then you just become part of the problem.

Am thinking of the long term and there are no downsides to prevent joblessness.

[New haven america]

I mean, considering a lot of coal miners are refusing retraining for other industries, do they really care about their own livelihood?

Because there is nothing in the Appalachians to retrain for

Yes there is, it just seems that you can't come up with ideas.

But fortunately for you other people have come up with ideas. Unfortunately, the people they're trying to help are too stuck in the past to actually use their help.

This is their own fault, no one else's.

[Thermodolia]

This did not occur.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... s-jhv94ghl
It's about to.

But Trump is the savior of the free market, right?

Edit: and there's this whole dealio- http://thehill.com/policy/energy-enviro ... -for-trump

You do know that Oily isn’t a fan of the free market right? Not all of us who approve of what Trump is doing are free market shills

[Oil exporting People]

Because there is nothing in the Appalachians to retrain for

Yes there is, it just seems that you can't come up with ideas.

But fortunately for you other people have come up with ideas. Unfortunately, the people they're trying to help are too stuck in the past to actually use their help.

This is their own fault, no one else's.

Interesting you claim this yet can't think of anything in specific meanwhile I actually live in the Appalachians.

[Ifreann]

>Ruining the environment and being incapable of thinking in the long term

You can try to defend his idoocracy all you want, but then you just become part of the problem.

Am thinking of the long term and there are no downsides to prevent joblessness.

In the long term coal runs out. Better not retrain anyone or attract other businesses!

[Oil exporting People]

Am thinking of the long term and there are no downsides to prevent joblessness.

In the long term coal runs out. Better not retrain anyone or attract other businesses!

Coal will run out in hundreds years based on current consumption; by that point, we may have already hit the singularity and this entire debate becomes moot.

[New haven america]

>Ruining the environment and being incapable of thinking in the long term

You can try to defend his idoocracy all you want, but then you just become part of the problem.

Am thinking of the long term

If you were thinking in the long term you'd understand that coal is a finite resource that's killing our planet and that there are much better alternative sources out there. (A few examples include: Nuclear, Wind, Solar, Hydro, etc...)

[Ifreann]

In the long term coal runs out. Better not retrain anyone or attract other businesses!

Coal will run out in hundreds years based on current consumption; by that point, we may have already hit the singularity and this entire debate becomes moot.

So thinking in the long term here means do nothing and assume all problems will somehow solve themselves. Cool.

[Oil exporting People]

Am thinking of the long term

If you were thinking in the long term you'd understand that coal is a finite resource that's killing our planet and that there are much better alternative sources out there. (A few examples include: Nuclear, Wind, Solar, Hydro, etc...)

Coal is a resource that isn't going to run out for hundreds of years, isn't in danger of killing the planet, and is beneficial in that it sustains the economy of a region. I'm a big proponent of Fusion, however.

[Cekoviu]

>Ruining the environment and being incapable of thinking in the long term

You can try to defend his idoocracy all you want, but then you just become part of the problem.

Am thinking of the long term and there are no downsides to prevent joblessness.

Our extinction is better than people taking a different job?

[Oil exporting People]

Coal will run out in hundreds years based on current consumption; by that point, we may have already hit the singularity and this entire debate becomes moot.

So thinking in the long term here means do nothing and assume all problems will somehow solve themselves. Cool.

Because it will, in this instance.

[Ifreann]

If you were thinking in the long term you'd understand that coal is a finite resource that's killing our planet and that there are much better alternative sources out there. (A few examples include: Nuclear, Wind, Solar, Hydro, etc...)

Coal is a resource that isn't going to run out for hundreds of years, isn't in danger of killing the planet, and is beneficial in that it sustains the economy of a region. I'm a big proponent of Fusion, however.

Global warming doesn't real, you say?

[Oil exporting People]

Coal is a resource that isn't going to run out for hundreds of years, isn't in danger of killing the planet, and is beneficial in that it sustains the economy of a region. I'm a big proponent of Fusion, however.

Global warming doesn't real, you say?

[New haven america]

Yes there is, it just seems that you can't come up with ideas.

But fortunately for you other people have come up with ideas. Unfortunately, the people they're trying to help are too stuck in the past to actually use their help.

This is their own fault, no one else's.

Interesting you claim this yet can't think of anything in specific

Solar energy techs, wind energy techs, programming, nursing and lab work, trade jobs like welding and construction, I could go on. The government is offering all of these retraining programs, a lot of them for free or almost free, and yet miners there aren't taking them even though they offer more money and are much safer than mining.

Any other incorrect assumptions you'd like to make?

[Fartsniffage]

Global warming doesn't real, you say?

Nah.

[New haven america]

If you were thinking in the long term you'd understand that coal is a finite resource that's killing our planet and that there are much better alternative sources out there. (A few examples include: Nuclear, Wind, Solar, Hydro, etc...)

1. isn't in danger of killing the planet, 2.and is beneficial in that it sustains the economy of a region. 3.I'm a big proponent of Fusion, however.

1. Yes, coal and oil are killing the planet as we speak, it's this little thing called "Global Warming."
2. Really, then why is it killing the economy of the Appalachians? (Hint: Putting all your eggs in one basket usually doesn't turn out well)
3. Then why the hell do you support coal?

[Ifreann]

Global warming doesn't real, you say?

"Coal...isn't in danger of killing the planet" - OEP
"I'm not denying global warming! Fallacy, fallacy!" - Also OEP