MAGAThread XIII: The Summit of Putin

[Valrifell]

In exchange for denuclearization?

Its possible

I doubt it, they might reduce their ability to make and research bombs in exchange for some kind of concession, but I don't think Kim is willing to completely forsake the nuke program.

[Thermodolia]

If the Dems adopted more protectionist policy’s and some of Sanders ideas than they would really win over the rural communities. Remember that Sanders had a broad following in the rural areas

Such as? And its my understanding they have started to adopt his polices.

Distancing themselves from Green energy, instituting tariffs, dropping the social justice shit and the free trade stuff would be a good start.

Honestly the republicans could end up winning a crap load of races if they mellowed out a bit on the social front. If they said that gay marriage and gay people are fine and thats it’s setteld law. They could kick the argument back to the Dems saying “we compromised on the gay marriage, now why don’t you do it for the guns.”

If the democrats don’t wise up soon they are going to be in a heap of trouble

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Such as? And its my understanding they have started to adopt his polices.

Distancing themselves from Green energy, instituting tariffs, dropping the social justice shit and the free trade stuff would be a good start.

Honestly the republicans could end up winning a crap load of races if they mellowed out a bit on the social front. If they said that gay marriage and gay people are fine and thats it’s setteld law. They could kick the argument back to the Dems saying “we compromised on the gay marriage, now why don’t you do it for the guns.”

If the democrats don’t wise up soon they are going to be in a heap of trouble

Wait, the Dems are the ones not compromising? The Dems are pushing for any kind of regulation, the Republicans are blocking all of it. Would it be compromise to take the Republican stance? And why distance from green energy?

And of course, what some call 'social justice shit' others call civil rights.

[Valrifell]

Such as? And its my understanding they have started to adopt his polices.

Distancing themselves from Green energy, instituting tariffs, dropping the social justice shit and the free trade stuff would be a good start.

Honestly the republicans could end up winning a crap load of races if they mellowed out a bit on the social front. If they said that gay marriage and gay people are fine and thats it’s setteld law. They could kick the argument back to the Dems saying “we compromised on the gay marriage, now why don’t you do it for the guns.”

If the democrats don’t wise up soon they are going to be in a heap of trouble

Green energy is something they shouldn't distance themselves from, it's a very popular position to take with young people and mobilizing them could be key going forward. I think it just needs to be repackaged in order to appeal more to rural voters, and perhaps offering some other economic programs that would specifically help those communities and small businesses.

The thing is, while only one of your suggestions for Dems is completely unreasonable and unrealistic, the mellowing on the social front is how the Republicans have established their identity since Ronald Reagan was President, they've always been the backlash against the New Left and it's where most of the momentum is derived. If they soften on that, they'll actually probably end up losing more races due to miffed evangelicals who have made up a significant chunk of their base for a while now and cynical Democrats who won't buy the shift.

I think Democrats are fine where they are, both parties (realistically) don't seem to be going anywhere or changing dramatically in the near future but I don't see either of them being in a heap of trouble until we get to a post-Trump world.

[San Lumen]

Such as? And its my understanding they have started to adopt his polices.

Distancing themselves from Green energy, instituting tariffs, dropping the social justice shit and the free trade stuff would be a good start.

Honestly the republicans could end up winning a crap load of races if they mellowed out a bit on the social front. If they said that gay marriage and gay people are fine and thats it’s setteld law. They could kick the argument back to the Dems saying “we compromised on the gay marriage, now why don’t you do it for the guns.”

If the democrats don’t wise up soon they are going to be in a heap of trouble

Yeah lets just repeal all environmental regulations and let business pollute because screw birds and fish.

And tariffs help no one and what do you mean by social justice? Equal rights for all? How awful!

[Thermodolia]

Distancing themselves from Green energy, instituting tariffs, dropping the social justice shit and the free trade stuff would be a good start.

Honestly the republicans could end up winning a crap load of races if they mellowed out a bit on the social front. If they said that gay marriage and gay people are fine and thats it’s setteld law. They could kick the argument back to the Dems saying “we compromised on the gay marriage, now why don’t you do it for the guns.”

If the democrats don’t wise up soon they are going to be in a heap of trouble

Wait, the Dems are the ones not compromising? The Dems are pushing for any kind of regulation, the Republicans are blocking all of it. Would it be compromise to take the Republican stance? And why distance from green energy?

And of course, what some call 'social justice shit' others call civil rights.

No I know what Civil Rights are. At a certain point though forcing companies to hire so many of a type of people isn’t civil rights nor is degrading a group of people because you believe that they have been in power for to long

[Thermodolia]

Distancing themselves from Green energy, instituting tariffs, dropping the social justice shit and the free trade stuff would be a good start.

Honestly the republicans could end up winning a crap load of races if they mellowed out a bit on the social front. If they said that gay marriage and gay people are fine and thats it’s setteld law. They could kick the argument back to the Dems saying “we compromised on the gay marriage, now why don’t you do it for the guns.”

If the democrats don’t wise up soon they are going to be in a heap of trouble

Yeah lets just repeal all environmental regulations and let business pollute because screw birds and fish.

And tariffs help no one and what do you mean by social justice? Equal rights for all? How awful!

You are really shit at reading comprehension. Everyone else seems to have understood what I was talking about but you didn’t

[Ifreann]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/business/economy/trump-floats-end-to-all-tariffs-threatens-major-penalties-for-countries-that-dont-agree/2018/06/09/a06350be-6bf1-11e8-bea7-c8eb28bc52b1_story.html?noredirect=on

So Trump’s threatening to end all trade to the US’ economic allies to try and get the G7 to do what he wants and get completely free trade going. Bullying your partners is certainly an interesting strategy.

And, not rolling over to ridiculous demands is double-crossing, apparently.

I thought free trade was all about international cooperation. Guess not.

Trump doesn't like being told no. People are supposed to do what he tells them.

"We're putting tariffs on you, Canada"
"Okay, well we're going to have to retaliate"
"THIS IS A BETRAYAL!"
"Sorry"

[Seangoli]

Wait, the Dems are the ones not compromising? The Dems are pushing for any kind of regulation, the Republicans are blocking all of it. Would it be compromise to take the Republican stance? And why distance from green energy?

And of course, what some call 'social justice shit' others call civil rights.

No I know what Civil Rights are. At a certain point though forcing companies to hire so many of a type of people isn’t civil rights nor is degrading a group of people because you believe that they have been in power for to long

FWIW, nobody is forcing anybody to hire a certain number of minorities. In fact, doing that is actively illegal, and has been for decades.

[Zapato]

Distancing themselves from Green energy, instituting tariffs, dropping the social justice shit and the free trade stuff would be a good start.

Honestly the republicans could end up winning a crap load of races if they mellowed out a bit on the social front. If they said that gay marriage and gay people are fine and thats it’s setteld law. They could kick the argument back to the Dems saying “we compromised on the gay marriage, now why don’t you do it for the guns.”

If the democrats don’t wise up soon they are going to be in a heap of trouble

Yeah lets just repeal all environmental regulations and let business pollute because screw birds and fish humans.

Fixed it, because in the end we're the ones who will be suffering.

[Valrifell]

Yeah lets just repeal all environmental regulations and let business pollute because screw birds and fish humans.

Fixed it, because in the end we're the ones who will be suffering.

Life is adaptable and resilient, surviving seven-ish mass extinction events. Humanity is squishy, fragile, and has survived zero mass extinction events, last I checked.

[San Lumen]

Yeah lets just repeal all environmental regulations and let business pollute because screw birds and fish.

And tariffs help no one and what do you mean by social justice? Equal rights for all? How awful!

You are really shit at reading comprehension. Everyone else seems to have understood what I was talking about but you didn’t

So let’s keep polluting the air and water with coal mining and power along with destroying the land itself via gas mining to win over people who cling to a dying industry

[Thermodolia]

Yeah lets just repeal all environmental regulations and let business pollute because screw birds and fish humans.

Fixed it, because in the end we're the ones who will be suffering.

I like screwing humans. Sex is fun

[Thermodolia]

Fixed it, because in the end we're the ones who will be suffering.

Life is adaptable and resilient, surviving seven-ish mass extinction events. Humanity is squishy, fragile, and has survived zero mass extinction events, last I checked.

We are also Crunchy and good with ketchup

[Thermodolia]

You are really shit at reading comprehension. Everyone else seems to have understood what I was talking about but you didn’t

So let’s keep polluting the air and water with coal mining and power along with destroying the land itself via gas mining to win over people who cling to a dying industry

Again not what I’m talking about Valrifell seemed to have understood what I was talking about. And I agree that the green energy needs to be repacked better to win over said individuals.

Instead you undermine all of that by demeaning all of them.

[Telconi]

You are really shit at reading comprehension. Everyone else seems to have understood what I was talking about but you didn’t

So let’s keep polluting the air and water with coal mining and power along with destroying the land itself via gas mining to win over people who cling to a dying industry

If your product doesn't sell, calling the target audience stupid isn't going to help.

[Kramanica]

You are really shit at reading comprehension. Everyone else seems to have understood what I was talking about but you didn’t

So let’s keep polluting the air and water with coal mining and power along with destroying the land itself via gas mining to win over people who cling to a dying industry

>tax and regulate an industry to death
"I-It's just dying, fam. Nothing we can do about it."

[The South Falls]

So let’s keep polluting the air and water with coal mining and power along with destroying the land itself via gas mining to win over people who cling to a dying industry

>tax and regulate an industry to death
"I-It's just dying, fam. Nothing we can do about it."

>pollute and foul rivers to death

"I-It's just capitalism, fam. Nothing we can do about it."

[Kramanica]

>tax and regulate an industry to death
"I-It's just dying, fam. Nothing we can do about it."

>pollute and foul rivers to death

"I-It's just capitalism, fam. Nothing we can do about it."

lol

Yeah, that's what those evil coal miners are intent on doing.

[San Lumen]

So let’s keep polluting the air and water with coal mining and power along with destroying the land itself via gas mining to win over people who cling to a dying industry

>tax and regulate an industry to death
"I-It's just dying, fam. Nothing we can do about it."

Every coal mine should be closed and if the state's economy collapses too bad.

[Kramanica]

>tax and regulate an industry to death
"I-It's just dying, fam. Nothing we can do about it."

Every coal mine should be closed and if the state's economy collapses too bad.

And this is why you will always lose.

[Valrifell]

So let’s keep polluting the air and water with coal mining and power along with destroying the land itself via gas mining to win over people who cling to a dying industry

>tax and regulate an industry to death
"I-It's just dying, fam. Nothing we can do about it."

Green energy is the safer bet, going forward. In fact, iirc, Donald Trump had to impose economic regulations to make sure people would buy more coal.

But do tell me about beautiful clean coal and tech upstarts in green energy deserve no love?

[Valrifell]

Every coal mine should be closed and if the state's economy collapses too bad.

And this is why you will always lose.

If you think you always win then, I'm sorry, but that's wrong.

[Uiiop]

>pollute and foul rivers to death

"I-It's just capitalism, fam. Nothing we can do about it."

lol

Yeah, that's what those evil coal miners are intent on doing.

Doesn't mean they can stop it.
We're talking consequences not intent here.
Unless you got something that shows that shit is being dealt with the miners could be beatniks for all it matters.

[Thermodolia]

>tax and regulate an industry to death
"I-It's just dying, fam. Nothing we can do about it."

Every coal mine should be closed and if the state's economy collapses too bad.

San Lumen if I could permanently kick you and those who think like you from the DNC I would