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Postby Valrifell » Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:13 pm

Puldania wrote:Donald Trump is proving to be one of the worst presidents of all time in every way. His economic background isn't even helping any-fucking-thing.


My biggest fear is that he'll convince people he was actually a good president and people will be trying out his bunk ideas for decades.

You know, like Reagan.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:14 pm

Puldania wrote:Donald Trump is proving to be one of the worst presidents of all time in every way. His economic background isn't even helping any-fucking-thing.

Being rich is not a background in economics.
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Postby Jedi Council » Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:15 pm

Puldania wrote:Donald Trump is proving to be one of the worst presidents of all time in every way. His economic background isn't even helping any-fucking-thing.

Who'd a thunk the guy born into wealth and with six bankruptcies to his name knew nothing about handling an economy worth trillions.
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Postby Tobleste » Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:21 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Puldania wrote:Donald Trump is proving to be one of the worst presidents of all time in every way. His economic background isn't even helping any-fucking-thing.


My biggest fear is that he'll convince people he was actually a good president and people will be trying out his bunk ideas for decades.

You know, like Reagan.


Republicans will do that but they're a lost cause as far as learning goes. Most young people despise trump and even young republicans dislike him. I imagine he'll be remembered as an embarrassment and will be a burden on the republican party in future elections. In that sense, he'll have a positive legacy.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:52 pm

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No, if the people if Iraq wanted to change they would have risen up themselves.


The Iraq war proved that they didn't want things to change and where content with peace.

That's not necessarily true. A lot of Iraqis hated Saddam but he still kept the country stable and kept terrorists out.

Also, just because people aren't rising up doesn't mean they don't want change. Oftentimes they're just too afraid. You think the average North Korean likes the conditions they live in?


If they wanted change then why did they resist change after the war?

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No, if the people if Iraq wanted to change they would have risen up themselves.


The Iraq war proved that they didn't want things to change and where content with peace.


they did rise up several times. they got squashed by saddam every single time.


Then that means more people sided with saddam and wanted to prevent a civil war.

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Postby Uxupox » Sun Jul 15, 2018 3:05 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Kramanica wrote:That's not necessarily true. A lot of Iraqis hated Saddam but he still kept the country stable and kept terrorists out.

Also, just because people aren't rising up doesn't mean they don't want change. Oftentimes they're just too afraid. You think the average North Korean likes the conditions they live in?


If they wanted change then why did they resist change after the war?

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they did rise up several times. they got squashed by saddam every single time.


Then that means more people sided with saddam and wanted to prevent a civil war.


no it means Saddam and the republican guard did not mess around with his application of strength through the force of arms. entire towns, cities and settlements were destroyed and their population slaughtered with themes that would have made romans blush with envy. Saddam's reprisals were brutally efficient.
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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:30 pm

Puldania wrote:Donald Trump is proving to be one of the worst presidents of all time in every way. His economic background isn't even helping any-fucking-thing.


Amazing, considering how well the economy is doing. :roll:
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Postby Oil exporting People » Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:36 pm

Puldania wrote:Donald Trump is proving to be one of the worst presidents of all time in every way. His economic background isn't even helping any-fucking-thing.


In what way?
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:41 pm

Kramanica wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
No, if the people if Iraq wanted to change they would have risen up themselves.


The Iraq war proved that they didn't want things to change and where content with peace.

That's not necessarily true. A lot of Iraqis hated Saddam but he still kept the country stable and kept terrorists out.

Also, just because people aren't rising up doesn't mean they don't want change. Oftentimes they're just too afraid. You think the average North Korean likes the conditions they live in?

It's more like as much as they hated Saddam they hated each other even more and they knew if Saddam was gone it'd be a massive free for all... like Iraq became.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:30 pm

Uxupox wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
If they wanted change then why did they resist change after the war?



Then that means more people sided with saddam and wanted to prevent a civil war.


no it means Saddam and the republican guard did not mess around with his application of strength through the force of arms. entire towns, cities and settlements were destroyed and their population slaughtered with themes that would have made romans blush with envy. Saddam's reprisals were brutally efficient.



Thats awful, but it wasn't spanning the entire country like the Iraq war was.

Or genociding groups like ISIS did after the war.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:38 pm

Puldania wrote:Donald Trump is proving to be one of the worst presidents of all time in every way. His economic background isn't even helping any-fucking-thing.

Not in every way but in civil rights (Detaining kids at the border), corrupt nominees led by corporate interest (Ajit Pai and the dude who tried to back stab VA by fucking over homeless vets), environment and, NASA spending.

Oh and making a fool of him self on an international scale.

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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:48 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Puldania wrote:Donald Trump is proving to be one of the worst presidents of all time in every way. His economic background isn't even helping any-fucking-thing.

Not in every way but in civil rights (Detaining kids at the border), corrupt nominees led by corporate interest (Ajit Pai and the dude who tried to back stab VA by fucking over homeless vets), environment and, NASA spending.

Oh and making a fool of him self on an international scale.


Not bending over and taking it in the ass =/= making a fool of himself.
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Postby Moscareinas » Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:54 pm

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Puldania wrote:Donald Trump is proving to be one of the worst presidents of all time in every way. His economic background isn't even helping any-fucking-thing.

Who'd a thunk the guy born into wealth and with six bankruptcies to his name knew nothing about handling an economy worth trillions.


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Postby Luna Amore » Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:56 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:NASA spending.

What'd he do to NASA spending? It's on par with what it has been for the last couple decades.

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Postby Moscareinas » Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:56 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Not in every way but in civil rights (Detaining kids at the border), corrupt nominees led by corporate interest (Ajit Pai and the dude who tried to back stab VA by fucking over homeless vets), environment and, NASA spending.

Oh and making a fool of him self on an international scale.


Not bending over and taking it in the ass =/= making a fool of himself.


To be fair, America is now his ass. And they're taking the fucking... less than gracefully, to put it politically correctly.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:59 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Not in every way but in civil rights (Detaining kids at the border), corrupt nominees led by corporate interest (Ajit Pai and the dude who tried to back stab VA by fucking over homeless vets), environment and, NASA spending.

Oh and making a fool of him self on an international scale.


Not bending over and taking it in the ass =/= making a fool of himself.

The shit hole comment, the tweet that started a riot in Palastine, withdrawing from the Iran deal and geting them to restart there nuke program....

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:NASA spending.

What'd he do to NASA spending? It's on par with what it has been for the last couple decades.



His first budget cut NASA spending compared with last years, and forced them to shut down carbon monitoring.
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Postby Uxupox » Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:02 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
no it means Saddam and the republican guard did not mess around with his application of strength through the force of arms. entire towns, cities and settlements were destroyed and their population slaughtered with themes that would have made romans blush with envy. Saddam's reprisals were brutally efficient.



Thats awful, but it wasn't spanning the entire country like the Iraq war was.

Or genociding groups like ISIS did after the war.


the uprising were not limited to one location. it was all over the place. it was a mess. in the syrian/iraqi borders, iraqi/kuwaiti borders heck even Iranian funded groups got involved.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:11 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Not bending over and taking it in the ass =/= making a fool of himself.

1. The shit hole comment, 2. the tweet that started a riot in Palastine, 3. withdrawing from the Iran deal and geting them to restart there nuke program....

1. An accurate comment, mind you.
2. Palestinians should be less reactionary.
3. Perhaps no deal is better than a bad deal.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:16 pm

Uxupox wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:

Thats awful, but it wasn't spanning the entire country like the Iraq war was.

Or genociding groups like ISIS did after the war.


the uprising were not limited to one location. it was all over the place. it was a mess. in the syrian/iraqi borders, iraqi/kuwaiti borders heck even Iranian funded groups got involved.


The entire Iraq war was all over the country, and ISIS has hit international targets.

The uprisings where small in comparison.

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Postby Uxupox » Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:20 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
the uprising were not limited to one location. it was all over the place. it was a mess. in the syrian/iraqi borders, iraqi/kuwaiti borders heck even Iranian funded groups got involved.


The entire Iraq war was all over the country, and ISIS has hit international targets.

The uprisings where small in comparison.


hundreds of thousands died all across Iraq. it was not "small" uprising.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:21 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Not in every way but in civil rights (Detaining kids at the border), corrupt nominees led by corporate interest (Ajit Pai and the dude who tried to back stab VA by fucking over homeless vets), environment and, NASA spending.

Oh and making a fool of him self on an international scale.


Not bending over and taking it in the ass =/= making a fool of himself.

Not bending over and taking it in the ass from anyone besides Putin you mean.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:22 pm

Moscareinas wrote:
Jedi Council wrote:Who'd a thunk the guy born into wealth and with six bankruptcies to his name knew nothing about handling an economy worth trillions.


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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:25 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:1. The shit hole comment, 2. the tweet that started a riot in Palastine, 3. withdrawing from the Iran deal and geting them to restart there nuke program....

1. An accurate comment, mind you.
2. Palestinians should be less reactionary.
3. Perhaps no deal is better than a bad deal.


1. Even so, it should have been off the record. He is a professional, saying things like that is unprofessional.

2. You are expecting a people who are angry and violent to not be angry and violent. Yes, they should be. That would be ideal. Then they could get together and realize that they could just live in harmony. Sadly, this isn't the case. They reacted the way that everyone knew they would. The whole thing could been avoided if Trump kept his big mouth shut.

3. Deal = no nukes. No deal = nukes

I'm going to say that no nukes are good nukes.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:29 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:3. Deal = no nukes. No deal = nukes


No deal is obviously the best option.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:36 pm

Uxupox wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
The entire Iraq war was all over the country, and ISIS has hit international targets.

The uprisings where small in comparison.


hundreds of thousands died all across Iraq. it was not "small" uprising.



In comparison. You didn't read the part of the sentience where I said in comparison.

Iraq war has estimates from from 150,000 to 460,000 dead.

181,731 – 203,903 civvies dead from violence post 03.

As of Dec 2017, 90,583–128,489 in the new Civil War.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Civil_War_(2014–present)

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About 588,489 dead total 03'+ 14 if we use the highest official estimates.

Not counting how many ISIS has killed abroad mind you.

So yeah, in comparison the Iraq wars where and are bigger then the uprisings.

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