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Postby Senkaku » Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:51 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
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Welcome to Cognitive Dissonance 101 lol

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Those aren't mutually exclusive things.

History isn't exactly full of super nice benevolent chill dictatorships that respect civil rights and take a hands-off approach to the business and lives of their citizens, fam
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Postby Galloism » Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:53 pm

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Those aren't mutually exclusive things.

History isn't exactly full of super nice benevolent chill dictatorships that respect civil rights and take a hands-off approach to the business and lives of their citizens, fam

I’m open for a dictator role. You got a solid 50 years of a benevolent chill dictatorship. All I demand is stuff the president already gets, so no major budget impact either.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:54 pm

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Those aren't mutually exclusive things.

History isn't exactly full of super nice benevolent chill dictatorships that respect civil rights and take a hands-off approach to the business and lives of their citizens, fam


I don't exactly want a blatant dictatorship either, but this is all quite off topic I imagine because I'm not POTUS.
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Postby Senkaku » Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:54 pm

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Senkaku wrote:History isn't exactly full of super nice benevolent chill dictatorships that respect civil rights and take a hands-off approach to the business and lives of their citizens, fam

I’m open for a dictator role. You got a solid 50 years of a benevolent chill dictatorship. All I demand is stuff the president already gets, so no major budget impact either.

Great, so now we just need to win over the military and the security apparatus, and then... hey, wait, what if I want to be dictator? Or WRA thinks he's better cut out for the job?

Well, I guess some rule by assassination would spice things up around here, at least. :p
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:54 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Senkaku wrote:History isn't exactly full of super nice benevolent chill dictatorships that respect civil rights and take a hands-off approach to the business and lives of their citizens, fam


I don't exactly want a blatant dictatorship either, but this is all quite off topic I imagine because I'm not POTUS.

some have accused you of being Trump in a suit, and I think that theory holds some weight
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Postby Senkaku » Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:55 pm

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Senkaku wrote:History isn't exactly full of super nice benevolent chill dictatorships that respect civil rights and take a hands-off approach to the business and lives of their citizens, fam


I don't exactly want a blatant dictatorship either, but this is all quite off topic I imagine because I'm not POTUS.

Not a blatant one, just a quiet one that doesn't oppress people loudly, so you can pretend it isn't happening? :p

It's not that off-topic, really, we're discussing political opinions and the American political system, and ways you want it to go, in a thread about the American president and American politics.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:57 pm

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I don't exactly want a blatant dictatorship either, but this is all quite off topic I imagine because I'm not POTUS.

some have accused you of being Trump in a suit, and I think that theory holds some weight


Now that's just uncalled for, plz no bully
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Postby Galloism » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:01 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Galloism wrote:I’m open for a dictator role. You got a solid 50 years of a benevolent chill dictatorship. All I demand is stuff the president already gets, so no major budget impact either.

Great, so now we just need to win over the military and the security apparatus, and then... hey, wait, what if I want to be dictator? Or WRA thinks he's better cut out for the job?

Well, I guess some rule by assassination would spice things up around here, at least. :p

Eh, we’ll still need cabinet secretaries. Besides, I’ll probably be too busy partying to do anything besides rule on the most serious conflicts between my secretaries. Not a bad gig.
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Postby Senkaku » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:03 pm

Galloism wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Great, so now we just need to win over the military and the security apparatus, and then... hey, wait, what if I want to be dictator? Or WRA thinks he's better cut out for the job?

Well, I guess some rule by assassination would spice things up around here, at least. :p

Eh, we’ll still need cabinet secretaries. Besides, I’ll probably be too busy partying to do anything besides rule on the most serious conflicts between my secretaries. Not a bad gig.

Court intrigue in an American dictatorship? This sounds like a fun P2TM RP premise tbh :p
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:03 pm

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I don't exactly want a blatant dictatorship either, but this is all quite off topic I imagine because I'm not POTUS.

Not a blatant one, just a quiet one that doesn't oppress people loudly, so you can pretend it isn't happening? :p

It's not that off-topic, really, we're discussing political opinions and the American political system, and ways you want it to go, in a thread about the American president and American politics.


Farn tends to come along and ruin the fun when we talk about anything other than Trump tho
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Postby Galloism » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:03 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Galloism wrote:Eh, we’ll still need cabinet secretaries. Besides, I’ll probably be too busy partying to do anything besides rule on the most serious conflicts between my secretaries. Not a bad gig.

Court intrigue in an American dictatorship? This sounds like a fun P2TM RP premise tbh :p

Too close to real life Trump cabinet, though.
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Postby Senkaku » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:04 pm

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Senkaku wrote:Not a blatant one, just a quiet one that doesn't oppress people loudly, so you can pretend it isn't happening? :p

It's not that off-topic, really, we're discussing political opinions and the American political system, and ways you want it to go, in a thread about the American president and American politics.


Farn tends to come along and ruin the fun when we talk about anything other than Trump tho

Make a thread on why you think democracy is yesterday's news and whatever you want to replace it, then, because right now I'm getting a vibe of "oops I said something dumb and am now going to insist on returning to the topic of Trump so I don't have to talk about it or explain myself" :p
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:05 pm

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Farn tends to come along and ruin the fun when we talk about anything other than Trump tho

Make a thread on why you think democracy is yesterday's news and whatever you want to replace it, then, because right now I'm getting a vibe of "oops I said something dumb and am now going to insist on returning to the topic of Trump so I don't have to talk about it or explain myself" :p


Friendo I've got a several year long streak of not starting a thread in General and I'm not breaking that now.

If you're really curious I could TG you something eventually but it's all still very much WIP atm
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Postby Napkiraly » Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:12 am

Senkaku wrote:
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Those aren't mutually exclusive things.

History isn't exactly full of super nice benevolent chill dictatorships that respect civil rights and take a hands-off approach to the business and lives of their citizens, fam

The same is true for democracies.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:41 pm

http://thehill.com/policy/national-secu ... ys-letters

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Postby Myrensis » Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:47 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/390402-trump-accuses-doj-muellers-office-of-leaking-his-attorneys-letters

"Is Mueller leaking shit? We have a guy for that."


Oh yeah, saw that letter about how the President isn't capable of breaking the law since he is the nations chief law enforcement officer, so he would only be undermining himself!

After my brain rebooted from the stupid I played another round 'Imagine if Obama had done it' and thought about the calm, respectful agreement that surely would have come from all conservative corners if Obama's attorneys had ever made such a claim.

The moved on to the amusing thought that if that's true, then even if all the nutjob conspiracy theories about OBama infiltrating and spying on the Trump campaign are true...doesn't matter, he was POTUS so he was entitled to do it. Trump Logic!
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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:54 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:So the Korea meeting is officially still on for the 12th. This may be the most defining moment of Trump's presidency, I believe. Whether that is for the best or the worse is yet to be seen.


I'd say the economic success would be the defining aspect of his Presidency.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:55 pm

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Cannot think of a name wrote:http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/390402-trump-accuses-doj-muellers-office-of-leaking-his-attorneys-letters

"Is Mueller leaking shit? We have a guy for that."


Oh yeah, saw that letter about how the President isn't capable of breaking the law since he is the nations chief law enforcement officer, so he would only be undermining himself!

After my brain rebooted from the stupid I played another round 'Imagine if Obama had done it' and thought about the calm, respectful agreement that surely would have come from all conservative corners if Obama's attorneys had ever made such a claim.

The moved on to the amusing thought that if that's true, then even if all the nutjob conspiracy theories about OBama infiltrating and spying on the Trump campaign are true...doesn't matter, he was POTUS so he was entitled to do it. Trump Logic!

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Calling it Stupid Watergate at this point is crediting too much intelligence to the buffoons. That reads exactly like Donnie is boldly going to do what Nixon wanted to do but was stopped by Haldeman.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:58 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:So the Korea meeting is officially still on for the 12th. This may be the most defining moment of Trump's presidency, I believe. Whether that is for the best or the worse is yet to be seen.


I'd say the economic success would be the defining aspect of his Presidency.


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Postby The Knockout Gun Gals » Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:26 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:So the Korea meeting is officially still on for the 12th. This may be the most defining moment of Trump's presidency, I believe. Whether that is for the best or the worse is yet to be seen.


I'd say the economic success would be the defining aspect of his Presidency.


I don't know, I'd say his Republicanism as the defining aspect.
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Postby Proctopeo » Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:27 pm

The Knockout Gun Gals wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
I'd say the economic success would be the defining aspect of his Presidency.


I don't know, I'd say his Republicanism as the defining aspect.

His defining aspect is that he's the first President in thirty years with only an 85% chance of being a reptile person.
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Postby Mushet » Sat Jun 02, 2018 9:10 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Galloism wrote:I’m open for a dictator role. You got a solid 50 years of a benevolent chill dictatorship. All I demand is stuff the president already gets, so no major budget impact either.

Great, so now we just need to win over the military and the security apparatus, and then... hey, wait, what if I want to be dictator? Or WRA thinks he's better cut out for the job?

Well, I guess some rule by assassination would spice things up around here, at least. :p

Pfft, make me dictator, I'm not scared of you nerds :p

I'll be a chill one too, I just want the title so I can feel important :D
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Postby The Knockout Gun Gals » Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:31 am

Mushet wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Great, so now we just need to win over the military and the security apparatus, and then... hey, wait, what if I want to be dictator? Or WRA thinks he's better cut out for the job?

Well, I guess some rule by assassination would spice things up around here, at least. :p

Pfft, make me dictator, I'm not scared of you nerds :p

I'll be a chill one too, I just want the title so I can feel important :D


I find my 5-years experiences in NS as a defining qualification for me to be a dictator.
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Postby Corrian » Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:21 am

Does Guliani keep just digging Trump a bigger grave?
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