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New haven america wrote:

Fartsniffage wrote:
There would certainly be violence.

Probably not to a scale that would change anything.

People would probably just bend over and take it, honestly.

Triassica wrote:

New haven america wrote:Probably not to a scale that would change anything.

People would probably just bend over and take it, honestly.

You mean liberals and progressives would simply shrug and go "Well, I guess we're fascist now"?

Triassica wrote:

New haven america wrote:Probably not to a scale that would change anything.

People would probably just bend over and take it, honestly.

You mean liberals and progressives would simply shrug and go "Well, I guess we're fascist now"?

Valgora wrote:

Triassica wrote:You mean liberals and progressives would simply shrug and go "Well, I guess we're fascist now"?

Such a convention would not make the United States fascist.

Triassica wrote:

Valgora wrote:
Such a convention would not make the United States fascist.

You doubt with the sort of insanity the Koch brothers, Trump Administration and Republican party want to push?

Triassica wrote:

Valgora wrote:
Such a convention would not make the United States fascist.

You doubt with the sort of insanity the Koch brothers, Trump Administration and Republican party want to push?

Triassica wrote:

Valgora wrote:
Such a convention would not make the United States fascist.

You doubt with the sort of insanity the Koch brothers, Trump Administration and Republican party want to push?

Valgora wrote:

Triassica wrote:You doubt with the sort of insanity the Koch brothers, Trump Administration and Republican party want to push?

The Republican Party ain't fascist.
Trump wouldn't have been elected if he was a legitimate fascist and if he did actually attempt to turn the US fascist, he wouldn't be in power.

The Koch brothers are out for themselves, and I don't think fascism would be that beneficial to them.

Uiiop wrote:

Valgora wrote:The Republican Party ain't fascist.
Trump wouldn't have been elected if he was a legitimate fascist and if he did actually attempt to turn the US fascist, he wouldn't be in power.

The Koch brothers are out for themselves, and I don't think fascism would be that beneficial to them.

I get the nit-picking but i'm not sure it defeats the over point Tri is making.

Not fascist? sure but that doesn't it wouldn't be bad.

New haven america wrote:

Uiiop wrote:I get the nit-picking but i'm not sure it defeats the over point Tri is making.

Not fascist? sure but that doesn't it wouldn't be bad.

It already is bad, and no one's really doing anything about it.

What makes you think people would react to Tri's hypothetical?

New haven america wrote:

Triassica wrote:You doubt with the sort of insanity the Koch brothers, Trump Administration and Republican party want to push?

That's not fascism, that'd be corporate oligarchy/autocracy (Depending on how it operates).

Which, funnily enough, is basically what the US is currently dealing with.

Uiiop wrote:

New haven america wrote:It already is bad, and no one's really doing anything about it.

What makes you think people would react to Tri's hypothetical?

I get the cyncism but people will at least try.
It might not be effective and they'll give up quickly but that's different from what you're saying.

Valgora wrote:

Triassica wrote:You mean liberals and progressives would simply shrug and go "Well, I guess we're fascist now"?

Such a convention would not make the United States fascist.

New haven america wrote:

Uiiop wrote:I get the cyncism but people will at least try.
It might not be effective and they'll give up quickly but that's different from what you're saying.

I don't considering going out to protest for a few days and then deciding that you have to get back to work and let everything continue to fester and question why things are getting so bad as "Trying."

Which will happen, just as it has the for the past decade or 2.

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:

Valgora wrote:
Such a convention would not make the United States fascist.

To be somewhat fair, there’d definitely be plenty of right wingers at a potential constitutional trying their hardest to curtail as many liberties and freedoms as possible to make the United States a more authoritarian regime.

Telconi wrote:

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:To be somewhat fair, there’d definitely be plenty of right wingers at a potential constitutional trying their hardest to curtail as many liberties and freedoms as possible to make the United States a more authoritarian regime.

To be even more fair there'd probably be just as many left wingers doing the exact same thing.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:

Triassica wrote:Nonetheless, the reason why I believe a rogue constituonal convention would lead to Civil War is precisely because of how divided we are and how insane the modern GOP has become. I can't see Conservative Republicans and Liberal democrats working together in good faith to amend the Constituon. Thus, if you want to change the constitution into your own image, especially if your image is right wing insanity, and you aren't willing to work with over half the country to find a compromise, then you've already decided you want war.

Don't act like you aren't any less insane lol

Sovaal wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Don't act like you aren't any less insane lol

I wonder, to the insane are the sane as insane as the insane are to the sane?