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Postby Ism » Sun Aug 12, 2018 12:52 pm

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Look, you have two choices, military expansion funded by debt, or welfare expansion funded by debt. Either way, you're going to get debt.


Or, or, we seize the wealth and crush the 1% and start nationalizing megacorporation's and all that fun stuff and fund both the military and welfare expansion.


Or, we could keep the money for ourselves and become the new 1%! I like that plan, that's a good plan.

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Postby Jerzylvania » Sun Aug 12, 2018 12:57 pm

Ism wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Or, or, we seize the wealth and crush the 1% and start nationalizing megacorporation's and all that fun stuff and fund both the military and welfare expansion.


Or, we could keep the money for ourselves and become the new 1%! I like that plan, that's a good plan.


Actually, that should have been the plan back in 2009 instead of the fucking bank bailout. The people who lost their houses would have given their $$$ to the bank and kept their houses. The rest would have bought stuff. That was the way it would have worked out best. Instead the banks took it all directly from the Fed. Gov. and bought up the smaller banks. Such assholes.
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Postby Sovaal » Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:00 pm

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Sovaal wrote:Fact: WRA is a living meme


Fact: this hurts ;_;

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Postby Painisia » Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:03 pm

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Painisia wrote:Well, every country in the world is indebted (I think). And the US doesn't make the top 10 for being the most indebted country in the world

We should be tightening up fiscal and monetary policy right now, but Trump wants to be known as the President where the economy roared, so he's blowing out the deficit and lobbying the Fed to keep interest rates low. He's very much like LBJ in that regard, actually. The annual deficit will be almost $1 trillion by next year under current policy. The deficit during the depths of the Great Recession was ~1.4 trillion.

At this rate, interest payments will become a larger part of federal spending than defense or Social Security within the next 30 years.


I really hope that Trump won't declare war on anybody, because that will plunge the US into the never-ending land of indebtnesss
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:05 pm

Apparently there's a far-right rally happening outside the White House.
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Postby Sovaal » Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:05 pm

Painisia wrote:
Sick Jumps wrote:We should be tightening up fiscal and monetary policy right now, but Trump wants to be known as the President where the economy roared, so he's blowing out the deficit and lobbying the Fed to keep interest rates low. He's very much like LBJ in that regard, actually. The annual deficit will be almost $1 trillion by next year under current policy. The deficit during the depths of the Great Recession was ~1.4 trillion.

At this rate, interest payments will become a larger part of federal spending than defense or Social Security within the next 30 years.


I really hope that Trump won't declare war on anybody, because that will plunge the US into the never-ending land of indebtnesss

I mean we don't do wars anymore, instead we do "police actions".
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:06 pm

Ifreann wrote:Apparently there's a far-right rally happening outside the White House.


It's the Unite the Right 2.0 rally, it's been planned for months but afaik most groups chose to avoid it because of the shitshow that was the first one so it's not that large.
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Postby Painisia » Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:07 pm

Ifreann wrote:Apparently there's a far-right rally happening outside the White House.


You mean the Charleston BBQ party?

https://youtu.be/P48se9AXucw
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Postby Tobleste » Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:07 pm

Valgora wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:...what


It sounds like he's saying that the people on the gun control thread are radicals when it comes to gun control.
And it also looks like he's saying that gun control ain't nowhere near as important as gun control.


You're right actually. I should have said "abortion" at the end instead of "gun control".
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Postby Tobleste » Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:08 pm

Ifreann wrote:Apparently there's a far-right rally happening outside the White House.


For the last 18 months, there's been a far right rally inside the White House.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:12 pm

Ifreann wrote:Apparently there's a far-right rally happening outside the White House.

As long as they remain peaceful, they can say whatever they want.

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Postby Sick Jumps » Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:13 pm

Painisia wrote:
Sick Jumps wrote:We should be tightening up fiscal and monetary policy right now, but Trump wants to be known as the President where the economy roared, so he's blowing out the deficit and lobbying the Fed to keep interest rates low. He's very much like LBJ in that regard, actually. The annual deficit will be almost $1 trillion by next year under current policy. The deficit during the depths of the Great Recession was ~1.4 trillion.

At this rate, interest payments will become a larger part of federal spending than defense or Social Security within the next 30 years.


I really hope that Trump won't declare war on anybody, because that will plunge the US into the never-ending land of indebtnesss

Another bad recession would also be pretty catastrophic. I wouldn't be surprised if the deficit goes through $2 trillion in the next recession. The Fed will also probably be forced straight back into QE, since interest rates are still pretty low.
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Postby Sick Jumps » Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:14 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Apparently there's a far-right rally happening outside the White House.


It's the Unite the Right 2.0 rally, it's been planned for months but afaik most groups chose to avoid it because of the shitshow that was the first one so it's not that large.

The media has also largely avoided hyping it up over the past few months, which is good.
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Postby Tobleste » Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:15 pm

Sick Jumps wrote:
Painisia wrote:Well, every country in the world is indebted (I think). And the US doesn't make the top 10 for being the most indebted country in the world

We should be tightening up fiscal and monetary policy right now, but Trump wants to be known as the President where the economy roared, so he's blowing out the deficit and lobbying the Fed to keep interest rates low. He's very much like LBJ in that regard, actually. The annual deficit will be almost $1 trillion by next year under current policy. The deficit during the depths of the Great Recession was ~1.4 trillion.

At this rate, interest payments will become a larger part of federal spending than defense or Social Security within the next 30 years.


Agreed.

The French defecit fell:

https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=w ... GEzGSELDfu

and Germany has a surplus.

Apart from Japan, Brazil and Argentina, America has a bigger deficit than any other major developed nation. One thing I do respect conservatives for is their foresight regarding national debt. Conservatives in Germany, France and the UK seem to make genuine effort to rein it in. US "conservatives" on the other hand just cut taxes and watch the deficit explode.
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Postby Sovaal » Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:16 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Apparently there's a far-right rally happening outside the White House.

As long as they remain peaceful, they can say whatever they want.

Eh we all know their type, I doubt they'll be peaceful for long.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Painisia » Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:23 pm

Sovaal wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:As long as they remain peaceful, they can say whatever they want.

Eh we all know their type, I doubt they'll be peaceful for long.


ANTIFA and Alt-right: CLASH!
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Postby Sovaal » Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:26 pm

Painisia wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Eh we all know their type, I doubt they'll be peaceful for long.


ANTIFA and Alt-right: CLASH!

honestly we should purchase an island, litter it with weapons, then just release a bunch of them onto it to duke it out and film it Hunger Games style.
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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:28 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Painisia wrote:
ANTIFA and Alt-right: CLASH!

honestly we should purchase an island, litter it with weapons, then just release a bunch of them onto it to duke it out and film it Hunger Games style.

Considering the popularity of Fortnite this would be the best thing ever to watch on a live stream.

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Postby Uiiop » Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:28 pm

Sovaal wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:As long as they remain peaceful, they can say whatever they want.

Eh we all know their type, I doubt they'll be peaceful for long.

Forgive me if i'm wrong but i'd heard the head organizer acts a little two faced about this issue.

Also I'm getting a livetweet from one of the counter-protesters. Apparently all the security and reports outnumber the original ralliers.
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Postby Painisia » Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:33 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Sovaal wrote:honestly we should purchase an island, litter it with weapons, then just release a bunch of them onto it to duke it out and film it Hunger Games style.

Considering the popularity of Fortnite this would be the best thing ever to watch on a live stream.


Nah, let PBS broadcast the whole event
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Postby Sick Jumps » Sun Aug 12, 2018 2:13 pm

Omarosa recorded chief of staff Kelly in White House Situation Room
Ivanka Trump condemns white nationalist rallies: There is no place for neo-Nazism in US
At least 100 newspapers sign up to publish editorials targeting Trump

Some more Trump related news. On a side note, the lira is continuing to implode as Erdogan continues to meddle in monetary policy and blames everything on the US.
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Postby Telconi » Sun Aug 12, 2018 2:15 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Sovaal wrote:honestly we should purchase an island, litter it with weapons, then just release a bunch of them onto it to duke it out and film it Hunger Games style.

Considering the popularity of Fortnite this would be the best thing ever to watch on a live stream.


Would, uh, would we as citizens get to bet on it???
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Aug 12, 2018 2:24 pm

Sick Jumps wrote:Omarosa recorded chief of staff Kelly in White House Situation Room
Ivanka Trump condemns white nationalist rallies: There is no place for neo-Nazism in US
At least 100 newspapers sign up to publish editorials targeting Trump

Some more Trump related news. On a side note, the lira is continuing to implode as Erdogan continues to meddle in monetary policy and blames everything on the US.

She really only got one shot with those recordings because even if there's not a legal case against them, a reasonable argument could be made so she has to overcome that with something that is salacious enough that we overlook her doing the recordings in lieu of what's on the recording themselves. Instead she releases a firing that goes about how you'd expect it to have gone. She blew her shot.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Sun Aug 12, 2018 2:27 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Sick Jumps wrote:Omarosa recorded chief of staff Kelly in White House Situation Room
Ivanka Trump condemns white nationalist rallies: There is no place for neo-Nazism in US
At least 100 newspapers sign up to publish editorials targeting Trump

Some more Trump related news. On a side note, the lira is continuing to implode as Erdogan continues to meddle in monetary policy and blames everything on the US.

She really only got one shot with those recordings because even if there's not a legal case against them, a reasonable argument could be made so she has to overcome that with something that is salacious enough that we overlook her doing the recordings in lieu of what's on the recording themselves. Instead she releases a firing that goes about how you'd expect it to have gone. She blew her shot.


How much will she get from the book, though?
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Aug 12, 2018 2:34 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:She really only got one shot with those recordings because even if there's not a legal case against them, a reasonable argument could be made so she has to overcome that with something that is salacious enough that we overlook her doing the recordings in lieu of what's on the recording themselves. Instead she releases a firing that goes about how you'd expect it to have gone. She blew her shot.


How much will she get from the book, though?

Worked out swimmingly for Micheal Wolff.
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