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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:54 pm

Everyone should ignore unconstitutional laws tbh
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Postby Northern Davincia » Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:59 pm

Triassica wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/08/06/politics/brett-kavanaugh-president-ignore-laws-unconstitutional/index.html

Under that argument, states can ignore the Law...

We have the 10th Amendment for a reason.
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Postby Triassica » Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:59 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Everyone should ignore unconstitutional laws tbh

I find laws that restrict abortion to be unconstitutional. So women should ignore that.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:04 pm

Triassica wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Everyone should ignore unconstitutional laws tbh

I find laws that restrict abortion to be unconstitutional. So women should ignore that.


I'm curious Flutters, under what parts of the constitution do you base your argument?
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Postby Northern Davincia » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:04 pm

Triassica wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Everyone should ignore unconstitutional laws tbh

I find laws that restrict abortion to be unconstitutional. So women should ignore that.

Care to show us where in the constitution you get that opinion from?
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Postby Triassica » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:09 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Triassica wrote:I find laws that restrict abortion to be unconstitutional. So women should ignore that.


I'm curious Flutters, under what parts of the constitution do you base your argument?

Nothing. I just think they are unconstitutional. If Kavanaugh argues that the president can ignore laws he thinks are unconstitutional, we should be able to do the same.
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Postby Freezic Vast » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:11 pm

Triassica wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I'm curious Flutters, under what parts of the constitution do you base your argument?

Nothing. I just think they are unconstitutional. If Kavanaugh argues that the president can ignore laws he thinks are unconstitutional, we should be able to do the same.

Then both of you would be wrong then.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:11 pm

Triassica wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I'm curious Flutters, under what parts of the constitution do you base your argument?

Nothing. I just think they are unconstitutional. If Kavanaugh argues that the president can ignore laws he thinks are unconstitutional, we should be able to do the same.

Ignoring the constitution is the first step to chaos.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:11 pm

Triassica wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I'm curious Flutters, under what parts of the constitution do you base your argument?

Nothing. I just think they are unconstitutional.


That's a damn weak argument, c'mon now. At least we can say why we think laws are unconstitutional and why we shouldn't follow them.
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Postby Triassica » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:13 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Triassica wrote:Nothing. I just think they are unconstitutional. If Kavanaugh argues that the president can ignore laws he thinks are unconstitutional, we should be able to do the same.

Ignoring the constitution is the first step to chaos.

Tell that to Kavanaugh.
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Postby Freezic Vast » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:14 pm

Triassica wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Ignoring the constitution is the first step to chaos.

Tell that to Kavanaugh.

We're telling that to you because of how oblivious and arrogant you are being.
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Postby Triassica » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:16 pm

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Triassica wrote:Tell that to Kavanaugh.

We're telling that to you because of how oblivious and arrogant you are being.

Just putting Kavanaugh's logic to it's conclusion...
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Postby Northern Davincia » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:16 pm

Triassica wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Ignoring the constitution is the first step to chaos.

Tell that to Kavanaugh.

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind, does it not?
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Postby Telconi » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:26 pm

Triassica wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:We're telling that to you because of how oblivious and arrogant you are being.

Just putting Kavanaugh's logic to it's conclusion...


Well I think Title II of the CA '34 is unconstitutional, so I'mma disconnect anyone who visits any website related to My Little Pony and is a grown ass man.

having said that, he's functionally correct, executives can essentially not enforce laws they don't wanna enforce, we saw this with drug laws, immigration laws, etc.
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Postby Bombadil » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:41 pm

The inevitable from the same people who scream at disrespect to the flag.. https://twitter.com/kasparov63/status/1 ... 51808?s=21
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Postby Luminesa » Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:13 pm

Bombadil wrote:The inevitable from the same people who scream at disrespect to the flag.. https://twitter.com/kasparov63/status/1 ... 51808?s=21

This also implying that Russian democrats somehow don’t exist...
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Postby Luminesa » Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:21 pm

Triassica wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I'm curious Flutters, under what parts of the constitution do you base your argument?

Nothing. I just think they are unconstitutional. If Kavanaugh argues that the president can ignore laws he thinks are unconstitutional, we should be able to do the same.

...If you’re not basing your argument from the constitution...you can’t say it’s unconstitutional. Because whatever you’re rambling off is not coming from the constitution.
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Postby Grenartia » Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:32 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Triassica wrote:Nothing. I just think they are unconstitutional. If Kavanaugh argues that the president can ignore laws he thinks are unconstitutional, we should be able to do the same.

...If you’re not basing your argument from the constitution...you can’t say it’s unconstitutional. Because whatever you’re rambling off is not coming from the constitution.


Then here's an argument based on the constitution. The executive branch shouldn't ignore laws it thinks are unconstitutional, since it is not the executive's purview to decide constitutionality. That's the judicial branch's job.
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Postby Senkaku » Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:33 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Triassica wrote:I find laws that restrict abortion to be unconstitutional. So women should ignore that.


I'm curious Flutters, under what parts of the constitution do you base your argument?

Northern Davincia wrote:
Triassica wrote:I find laws that restrict abortion to be unconstitutional. So women should ignore that.

Care to show us where in the constitution you get that opinion from?

"This right of privacy, whether it be founded in the Fourteenth Amendment's concept of personal liberty and restrictions upon state action, as we feel it is, or, as the District Court determined, in the Ninth Amendment's reservation of rights to the people, is broad enough to encompass a woman's decision whether or not to terminate her pregnancy."
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:37 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Luminesa wrote:...If you’re not basing your argument from the constitution...you can’t say it’s unconstitutional. Because whatever you’re rambling off is not coming from the constitution.


Then here's an argument based on the constitution. The executive branch shouldn't ignore laws it thinks are unconstitutional, since it is not the executive's purview to decide constitutionality. That's the judicial branch's job.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:56 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I'm curious Flutters, under what parts of the constitution do you base your argument?

Northern Davincia wrote:Care to show us where in the constitution you get that opinion from?

"This right of privacy, whether it be founded in the Fourteenth Amendment's concept of personal liberty and restrictions upon state action, as we feel it is, or, as the District Court determined, in the Ninth Amendment's reservation of rights to the people, is broad enough to encompass a woman's decision whether or not to terminate her pregnancy."


The 14A argument is total bunk but at least you can quote something relevant lol, I was just trying to see what Flutters had.
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Postby Bombadil » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:04 am

Can so skip to last 15 seconds to see if sheriff Joe Arpiao would accept the offer of a blowjob from Donald Trump - https://youtu.be/Iz0TA9MWiJg

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Postby Senkaku » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:35 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Senkaku wrote:
"This right of privacy, whether it be founded in the Fourteenth Amendment's concept of personal liberty and restrictions upon state action, as we feel it is, or, as the District Court determined, in the Ninth Amendment's reservation of rights to the people, is broad enough to encompass a woman's decision whether or not to terminate her pregnancy."


The 14A argument is total bunk but at least you can quote something relevant lol, I was just trying to see what Flutters had.

"or, as the District Court determined, in the Ninth Amendment's reservation of rights to the people"


If I were you I'd also tread carefully around saying that arguments based on certain amendments are BS :p
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:37 am

Senkaku wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The 14A argument is total bunk but at least you can quote something relevant lol, I was just trying to see what Flutters had.

"or, as the District Court determined, in the Ninth Amendment's reservation of rights to the people"


If I were you I'd also tread carefully around saying that arguments based on certain amendments are BS :p


The 9A argument is a bit better but like all that are dependent on that particular amendment is always comes across as kinda weak. Tbqh we should just overturn Roe and Casey and make a new amendment protecting abortion rights.
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