MAGAThread XIII: The Summit of Putin

[Bombadil]

Kim Jong Un has just offered to broker peace between the US and Canada..

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citation needed???

Normalisation, where anything and everything is believable..

EDIT.. where you google it and the Internet will deliver..

SINGAPORE (The Borowitz Report)—One day before his summit with Donald J. Trump, the North Korean dictator, Kim Jong Un, has offered to host peace talks between the United States and Canada.

Speaking to reporters at his hotel in Singapore, Kim said that the rising tensions between the North American neighbors were posing an “intolerable threat to world peace.”

In addition to offering to host U.S.-Canada talks in Pyongyang, Kim urged the immediate creation of a demilitarized zone along the border separating the two hostile nations.

“In exchange for Canadian Mounties agreeing to stand down on their side of the border, the United States, in turn, would dismantle its nuclear weapons,” Kim said.

Although stating that “North Korea stands ready and willing to be an honest broker” in peace talks between the two countries, he urged Trump to dial back the “inflammatory rhetoric” that he aimed at Canadians over the weekend.

“Violent language and threats have no place in international diplomacy,” Kim said.

[Geneviev]

Kim Jong Un has just offered to broker peace between the US and Canada..

The hero we all need.

[Oil exporting People]

Because no one's taking the bloody retraining offers. How is this so difficult for you to comprehend?

There's literally no jobs for them to be retraining for here, as there is no demand for said jobs. Nobody is going to retrain for a job when it doesn't exist. By all means, however, you're free to continue to pretend you know more about the occupational prospects here than I do when I live it everyday.

The place has great potential for wind and solar energy

No it does not, as any review of what our geography is would establish.

, as well as the fact that it needs better infrastructer and bigger hospitals (Hint, construction and trade jobs are a great way to fix this). But since you've shown that you don't think in the long term, it's not surprising you didn't piece these together.

You might want to look up the Hospital closures that been occurring here for quite sometime; the population is declining, so capacity to maintain Hospitals doesn't exist nor do many Doctors want to relocate to such rural settings. I'd love to do major infrastructure projects, but those are temporary fixes at best for employment.

[Oil exporting People]

Sure, but that's all that American coal spews out and further emissions are rather low to the point that even factoring in global emissions it isn't a threat.

Why do you think American coal is cleaner than that of other nations?

Because review of the relevant Federal data will show this to be true.

[Fartsniffage]

Why do you think American coal is cleaner than that of other nations?

Because review of the relevant Federal data will show this to be true.

What Federal data?

[The South Falls]

It's a tough one, Canada is demanding the US cease all production of maple syrup in Vermont..

Yeesh. That's... that's gonna be a hard point to sell.

[The South Falls]

Because review of the relevant Federal data will show this to be true.

What Federal data?

Federal Data of Scott Pruitt's EPA. Also known as, not very much relevant data.

[Oil exporting People]

1. All fossil fuels contribute to it, which includes coal. Also, I don't think Bloomberg is the best source to use for this.

Your opinion is irrelevant, especially given Bloomberg is reporting on a spate of studies that came out on the matter.

2a. Gee, really? I had no idea. 2b. Apparently you need to learn what economic diversification is...

An odd claim to make, given I even said Dutch Disease is an issue.

3a. Even though we have perfectly fine reactors right now,

Which are fission, not fusion. If you can't tell the difference, then you really don't need to be debating on energy topics.

3b. You mean in a dying industry? Yeah, that makes for great job security, yep yep yep.

60% increase in exports and 27% increase in profits this past year, and a net increase of a 1,000 jobs. Cutting regulations and subsidizing an industry does wonders, in case you weren't aware. This is how China's steel production increased by over 500% the last 18 years.

[Auze]

Kim Jong Un has just offered to broker peace between the US and Canada..

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citation needed???

Here you go.

[Fartsniffage]

60% increase in exports and 27% increase in profits this past year, and a net increase of a 1,000 jobs. Cutting regulations and subsidizing an industry does wonders, in case you weren't aware. This is how China's steel production increased by over 500% the last 18 years.

Don't let Trump know the US government is subsidising the coal industry. He'll slap tariffs on it.

[Oil exporting People]

What Federal data?

Here you go.

[New haven america]

Because no one's taking the bloody retraining offers. How is this so difficult for you to comprehend?

1A.There's literally no jobs for them to be retraining for here, as there is no demand for said jobs. Nobody is going to retrain for a job when it doesn't exist. 1B.By all means, however, you're free to continue to pretend you know more about the occupational prospects here than I do when I live it everyday.

The place has great potential for wind and solar energy

2.No it does not, as any review of what our geography is would establish.

, as well as the fact that it needs better infrastructer and bigger hospitals (Hint, construction and trade jobs are a great way to fix this). But since you've shown that you don't think in the long term, it's not surprising you didn't piece these together.

3.You might want to look up the Hospital closures that been occurring here for quite sometime; the population is declining,

1A. Except there is, as we've already been over this, and B. It's not my fault you're too busy playing helpless and victimizing yourself to actually do research on the area you live.
2. On average the Appalachians region is either sunny or partly cloudy for over half the year, and hilly areas make decent areas for wind turbines. Maybe if you actually did your research you'd know this.
3. Because the main industry of the area (Coal) is dying, which is why we're trying to get you to transition. I'm feel like I'm starting to sound like a broken record, but that's not unusual with you.

[Oil exporting People]

60% increase in exports and 27% increase in profits this past year, and a net increase of a 1,000 jobs. Cutting regulations and subsidizing an industry does wonders, in case you weren't aware. This is how China's steel production increased by over 500% the last 18 years.

Don't let Trump know the US government is subsidising the coal industry. He'll slap tariffs on it.

Personally I think we ought to subsidize our steel and aluminum industry as well in addition to tariffs.

[Washington Resistance Army]

1A. Except there is, as we've already been over this, and B. It's not my fault you're too busy playing helpless and victimizing yourself to actually do research on the area you live.

You've literally provided no evidence for your claims as far as I've seen. You might wanna do that if you wanna convince people you're right.

[Fartsniffage]

What Federal data?

Here you go.

That just leads to this - https://www.energy.gov/fe/about-us/stud ... d-teachers

[The South Falls]

Don't let Trump know the US government is subsidising the coal industry. He'll slap tariffs on it.

Personally I think we ought to subsidize our steel and aluminum industry as well in addition to tariffs.

Subsidizing industries to have them do better is a sound plan. However, we have to choose, on the tariff end. Do we really want to compromise other industries, that we know will be tariffed, for what we are tariffing?

[Oil exporting People]

1A. Except there is, as we've already been over this, and B. It's not my fault you're too busy playing helpless and victimizing yourself to actually do research on the area you live.

No, you've just claimed these jobs exist; let's see some empirical data then.

2. On average the Appalachians region is either sunny or partly cloudy for over half the year, and hilly areas make decent areas for wind turbines. Maybe if you actually did your research you'd know this.

Most regions of the Appalachians have very little space for wind turbines and the soil is very rocky with quite a bit of bedrock just below the surface; very few houses have basements as a result of this. Solar also doesn't work do to the aforementioned lack of flat space and your own admission on our weather issues.

3. Because the main industry of the area (Coal) is dying, which is why we're trying to get you to transition. I'm feel like I'm starting to sound like a broken record, but that's not unusual with you.

You're making the economic argument equivalent of shooting someone in the chest and then saying they were dying anyway.

[Cannot think of a name]

1. All fossil fuels contribute to it, which includes coal. Also, I don't think Bloomberg is the best source to use for this.

Your opinion is irrelevant, especially given Bloomberg is reporting on a spate of studies that came out on the matter.

2a. Gee, really? I had no idea. 2b. Apparently you need to learn what economic diversification is...

An odd claim to make, given I even said Dutch Disease is an issue.

3a. Even though we have perfectly fine reactors right now,

Which are fission, not fusion. If you can't tell the difference, then you really don't need to be debating on energy topics.

3b. You mean in a dying industry? Yeah, that makes for great job security, yep yep yep.

60% increase in exports and 27% increase in profits this past year, and a net increase of a 1,000 jobs. Cutting regulations and subsidizing an industry does wonders, in case you weren't aware. This is how China's steel production increased by over 500% the last 18 years.

If we’re going to pay people to give you all a job with subsidies, why does it have to be coal? Why are we sacrificing your health and safety and then paying for the privilege just so you don’t have to retool for the future? If you’re already game to accept government handouts why can’t it be something else? Why does it need to be coal? Could it be someone has sold you on an easy solution that will tell you a fairy tale about how it can be like it always was despite all evidence to the contrary? If your argument was that coal could stand on its own, that’s one thing. But you just laid it out, it needs our help to stay afloat. Well, now you need a better argument than “I don’t wanna”. It doesn’t provide jobs unless we put our finger on the scale. Something better than hoping a business will open its doors and wait for maybe the workforce to train up so they can operate. Unless you’ll accept those subsidies for them, which I believe was the plan before a snake oil salesmen came by and said you didn’t have to do shit.

[Fartsniffage]

[Most regions of the Appalachians have very little space for wind turbines and the soil is very rocky with quite a bit of bedrock just below the surface; very few houses have basements as a result of this. Solar also doesn't work do to the aforementioned lack of flat space and your own admission on our weather issues.

You actually want the bedrock close to the surface for wind turbines. Makes it easier to bolt the things designed to catch the wind to the ground so they don't blow away.

[Oil exporting People]

Here you go.

That just leads to this - https://www.energy.gov/fe/about-us/stud ... d-teachers

Sorry, here yah go.

[The South Falls]

1A. Except there is, as we've already been over this, and B. It's not my fault you're too busy playing helpless and victimizing yourself to actually do research on the area you live.

No, you've just claimed these jobs exist; let's see some empirical data then.

2. On average the Appalachians region is either sunny or partly cloudy for over half the year, and hilly areas make decent areas for wind turbines. Maybe if you actually did your research you'd know this.

Most regions of the Appalachians have very little space for wind turbines and the soil is very rocky with quite a bit of bedrock just below the surface; very few houses have basements as a result of this. Solar also doesn't work do to the aforementioned lack of flat space and your own admission on our weather issues.

3. Because the main industry of the area (Coal) is dying, which is why we're trying to get you to transition. I'm feel like I'm starting to sound like a broken record, but that's not unusual with you.

You're making the economic argument equivalent of shooting someone in the chest and then saying they were dying anyway.

Must it be coal forever, then? What do we do when we run out?

[New haven america]

1. All fossil fuels contribute to it, which includes coal. Also, I don't think Bloomberg is the best source to use for this.

1.Your opinion is irrelevant, especially given Bloomberg is reporting on a spate of studies that came out on the matter.

2a. Gee, really? I had no idea. 2b. Apparently you need to learn what economic diversification is...

An odd claim to make, given I even said Dutch Disease is an issue.

3a. Even though we have perfectly fine reactors right now,

3a.Which are fission, not fusion. If you can't tell the difference, then you really don't need to be debating on energy topics.

3b. You mean in a dying industry? Yeah, that makes for great job security, yep yep yep.

60% increase in exports and 27% increase in profits this past year, and a net increase of a 1,000 jobs. Cutting regulations and subsidizing an industry does wonders, in case you weren't aware. This is how China's steel production increased by over 500% the last 18 years.

1. So are most of your opinions, your point?
2. Except it's not, as you keep defending the cause of it in the region (Coal).
3a. So you can't come up with an actual point to my question and instead resort to ad homs? Typical. I'd rather not feed into your pathetic bait, but if you must know fission is the process in which an atom splits into smaller parts usually producing free neutrons and gamma photons, while fusion is what happpens when 2 nuclei form a different atomic element.


Now, answer my bloody question, why don't you support nuclear energy right now?

3b. And yet the industry is still dying and the population in said areas are still decreasing. You can only keep something on life support for so long before it crashes.

[Cekoviu]

Kim Jong Un has just offered to broker peace between the US and Canada..

This has to be a bad fever dream.

[Cekoviu]

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citation needed???

Here you go.

Two citations!

[Fartsniffage]

That just leads to this - https://www.energy.gov/fe/about-us/stud ... d-teachers

Sorry, here yah go.

And I counter you with this.

Of the 22 clean coal demonstration projects funded by the U.S. Department of Energy since 2003, none are in operation as of February 2017, having been abandoned or delayed due to capital budget overruns or discontinued because of excessive operating expenses

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_pollution_mitigation

Obama even put $3.4 billion into it in 2009. It just doesn't work. Coal is the worst of the fossil fuels in terms of pollution.