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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu May 31, 2018 9:17 am

Telconi wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:That’s just confusing


Team owners are investors that own the revenue generation of a team's brand.

Think of it like a franchised burger joint. The team owner is the franchise holder, the NFL is McDonald's Corporation.

The owner might have some leeway, but ultimately if the way the store is ran is in accordance with McDonald's policy.

What I’m taking from this is I hate corporate America
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Postby Telconi » Thu May 31, 2018 9:18 am

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Team owners are investors that own the revenue generation of a team's brand.

Think of it like a franchised burger joint. The team owner is the franchise holder, the NFL is McDonald's Corporation.

The owner might have some leeway, but ultimately if the way the store is ran is in accordance with McDonald's policy.

What I’m taking from this is I hate corporate America


Good for you.

I'd also point out that unlike Joe Blow who owns a McDonald's franchise, Joe Blow who own's the Bunfuckville Badgers can't have his team pulled unilaterally for non-conplience, he just gets a penal fine.

So if Joe Blow is willing to foot the bill for the Badgers kneeling whenever the anthem plays. He could do that.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu May 31, 2018 9:22 am

The NFL should have ignored Trump's whining about protests during the anthem. Then Trump would get so mad he'd try to make his own football league again, and it would fail again, and that would be hilarious.
Alvecia wrote:Trade war is heating up it seems. Be interesting to see what the return salvo will be.

When Trump first threatened tariffs the EU said they'd counter-tariff things like Americans whiskey, American jeans, and American motorcycles. Basically tariff American culture.
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Postby Telconi » Thu May 31, 2018 9:25 am

Ifreann wrote:The NFL should have ignored Trump's whining about protests during the anthem. Then Trump would get so mad he'd try to make his own football league again, and it would fail again, and that would be hilarious.
Alvecia wrote:Trade war is heating up it seems. Be interesting to see what the return salvo will be.

When Trump first threatened tariffs the EU said they'd counter-tariff things like Americans whiskey, American jeans, and American motorcycles. Basically tariff American culture.


We tariff steel and aluminum. The EU retaliates with tariffs on hooch, Harleys, and hiphuggers...

What is this world coming to?
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu May 31, 2018 9:26 am

Ifreann wrote:The NFL should have ignored Trump's whining about protests during the anthem. Then Trump would get so mad he'd try to make his own football league again, and it would fail again, and that would be hilarious.
Alvecia wrote:Trade war is heating up it seems. Be interesting to see what the return salvo will be.

When Trump first threatened tariffs the EU said they'd counter-tariff things like Americans whiskey, American jeans, and American motorcycles. Basically tariff American culture.

Europeans must really like Harley Davidson.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu May 31, 2018 9:27 am

Telconi wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The NFL should have ignored Trump's whining about protests during the anthem. Then Trump would get so mad he'd try to make his own football league again, and it would fail again, and that would be hilarious.

When Trump first threatened tariffs the EU said they'd counter-tariff things like Americans whiskey, American jeans, and American motorcycles. Basically tariff American culture.


We tariff steel and aluminum. The EU retaliates with tariffs on hooch, Harleys, and hiphuggers...

What is this world coming to?

We should be hitting Trump where it hurts and going after his hotels and golf courses.
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Postby Telconi » Thu May 31, 2018 9:29 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The NFL should have ignored Trump's whining about protests during the anthem. Then Trump would get so mad he'd try to make his own football league again, and it would fail again, and that would be hilarious.

When Trump first threatened tariffs the EU said they'd counter-tariff things like Americans whiskey, American jeans, and American motorcycles. Basically tariff American culture.

Europeans must really like Harley Davidson.


Maybe there's like some weird phenomenon where a region imports motor vehicles from the major motor vehicle producing region to the East of it. Cuz everyone here has import bikes from Japan.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu May 31, 2018 9:29 am

Ifreann wrote:
Telconi wrote:
We tariff steel and aluminum. The EU retaliates with tariffs on hooch, Harleys, and hiphuggers...

What is this world coming to?

We should be hitting Trump where it hurts and going after his hotels and golf courses.

I was unaware we exported hotels and golf courses.
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Postby Telconi » Thu May 31, 2018 9:30 am

Ifreann wrote:
Telconi wrote:
We tariff steel and aluminum. The EU retaliates with tariffs on hooch, Harleys, and hiphuggers...

What is this world coming to?

We should be hitting Trump where it hurts and going after his hotels and golf courses.


Yeah, but can y'all really tariff a company.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu May 31, 2018 9:31 am

You can always try tariffing US soldiers.
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Postby Proctopeo » Thu May 31, 2018 9:31 am

Telconi wrote:
Ifreann wrote:We should be hitting Trump where it hurts and going after his hotels and golf courses.


Yeah, but can y'all really tariff a company.

It's the EU; the only rule is "if you want to break the laws with a new law, repeal those laws first".
So, yes, if they really wanted to.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu May 31, 2018 9:31 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The NFL should have ignored Trump's whining about protests during the anthem. Then Trump would get so mad he'd try to make his own football league again, and it would fail again, and that would be hilarious.

When Trump first threatened tariffs the EU said they'd counter-tariff things like Americans whiskey, American jeans, and American motorcycles. Basically tariff American culture.

Europeans must really like Harley Davidson.

One suspects it's less that we love Harleys and more that Harley Davidson loves our euromonies and could relatively easily get a meeting with Trump and convince him into dropping the tariffs.


The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:We should be hitting Trump where it hurts and going after his hotels and golf courses.

I was unaware we exported hotels and golf courses.

How else do you think Trump got them here?
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu May 31, 2018 9:32 am

Ifreann wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Europeans must really like Harley Davidson.

One suspects it's less that we love Harleys and more that Harley Davidson loves our euromonies and could relatively easily get a meeting with Trump and convince him into dropping the tariffs.


The Empire of Pretantia wrote:I was unaware we exported hotels and golf courses.

How else do you think Trump got them here?

I don't think he got them there at all, otherwise he would have a reason to visit Europe.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu May 31, 2018 9:32 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:You can always try tariffing US soldiers.

Put a toll on Shannon airport, make American soldiers flying to and from the Middle East. We'd make mad bank.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu May 31, 2018 9:34 am

Ifreann wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:You can always try tariffing US soldiers.

Put a toll on Shannon airport, make American soldiers flying to and from the Middle East. We'd make mad bank.

It would make America take up Poland's offer at the least.
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Postby Tobleste » Thu May 31, 2018 9:48 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Nobody says they can't protest on their own time.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

True but the whole argument that their boss isn’t letting them protest at work is silly because many of the teams owners allowed it


Also whenever minorities or women protest on their own time, conservatives find a reason to hate them anyway.
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Postby Tobleste » Thu May 31, 2018 9:49 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The NFL should have ignored Trump's whining about protests during the anthem. Then Trump would get so mad he'd try to make his own football league again, and it would fail again, and that would be hilarious.

When Trump first threatened tariffs the EU said they'd counter-tariff things like Americans whiskey, American jeans, and American motorcycles. Basically tariff American culture.

Europeans must really like Harley Davidson.


Iirc, it's because Harley Davidson is based in either Paul Ryan's or Mitch McConnels state.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu May 31, 2018 10:00 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:One suspects it's less that we love Harleys and more that Harley Davidson loves our euromonies and could relatively easily get a meeting with Trump and convince him into dropping the tariffs.



How else do you think Trump got them here?

I don't think he got them there at all, otherwise he would have a reason to visit Europe.

He visited his golf course in Scotland the day after the Brexit referendum, and congratulated the Scottish people on the result, not aware that the Scottish people had mostly voted against Brexit. It was funny.
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Postby Taxi King » Thu May 31, 2018 10:14 am

Ifreann wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:I don't think he got them there at all, otherwise he would have a reason to visit Europe.

He visited his golf course in Scotland the day after the Brexit referendum, and congratulated the Scottish people on the result, not aware that the Scottish people had mostly voted against Brexit. It was funny.


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Postby Ifreann » Thu May 31, 2018 10:35 am

Taxi King wrote:
Ifreann wrote:He visited his golf course in Scotland the day after the Brexit referendum, and congratulated the Scottish people on the result, not aware that the Scottish people had mostly voted against Brexit. It was funny.


Just another strange day in the life of Reality TV POTUS. Thanks NBC.

That was before he was President.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu May 31, 2018 10:40 am

I dont get the rationale behind this at all. Trump wants to ban all German Cars from the US. They have manufacturing plants here which their closure would hurt the local economy and thats not even mentioning all the dealership jobs that will be lost. How anyone can still vote Republican or support him is beyond my comprehension at this point.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... ars-report

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Postby Vassenor » Thu May 31, 2018 10:41 am

Looks like the party isn't happy that these tariffs are happening. Although I expect they'll fall back into lockstep soon enough.
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Postby Freezic Vast » Thu May 31, 2018 10:43 am

This will not happen at all.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu May 31, 2018 10:43 am

Freezic Vast wrote:This will not happen at all.

And how do you know?

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Postby Ifreann » Thu May 31, 2018 10:54 am

San Lumen wrote:I dont get the rationale behind this at all. Trump wants to ban all German Cars from the US. They have manufacturing plants here which their closure would hurt the local economy and thats not even mentioning all the dealership jobs that will be lost. How anyone can still vote Republican or support him is beyond my comprehension at this point.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... ars-report

German cars are a national security threat? Fascinating.
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