MAGAThread XIII: The Summit of Putin

[Jerzylvania]

How much will she get from the book, though?

Worked out swimmingly for Micheal Wolff.

Yep. This is the real Trump economy.

[Triassica]

Https://www.salon.com/amp/the-biggest-t ... of_partner

I personally think such a convention would lead to Civil War....

[Telconi]

Https://www.salon.com/amp/the-biggest-threat-to-our-democracy-that-you-have-not-heard-of_partner

I personally think such a convention would lead to Civil War....

Yeah but you also think Comcast throttling My Little Pony erotic fanfiction would result in a civil war too.

[Northern Davincia]

Https://www.salon.com/amp/the-biggest-threat-to-our-democracy-that-you-have-not-heard-of_partner

I personally think such a convention would lead to Civil War....

Yeah but you also think Comcast throttling My Little Pony erotic fanfiction would result in a civil war too.

Please do not make me view Comcast favorably.

[Sick Jumps]

Https://www.salon.com/amp/the-biggest-threat-to-our-democracy-that-you-have-not-heard-of_partner

I personally think such a convention would lead to Civil War....

Definitely something that more people need to be aware of, but how is this Trump related?

[Triassica]

Https://www.salon.com/amp/the-biggest-threat-to-our-democracy-that-you-have-not-heard-of_partner

I personally think such a convention would lead to Civil War....

Yeah but you also think Comcast throttling My Little Pony erotic fanfiction would result in a civil war too.

And you are on my ignore list for that unhelpful snide remark...

[Triassica]

Https://www.salon.com/amp/the-biggest-threat-to-our-democracy-that-you-have-not-heard-of_partner

I personally think such a convention would lead to Civil War....

Definitely something that more people need to be aware of, but how is this Trump related?

Why can't this be a general American politics thread?

[Uiiop]

Definitely something that more people need to be aware of, but how is this Trump related?

Why can't this be a general American politics thread?

Because Local and State politics need room to breathe.

This is arguably related enough.

Https://www.salon.com/amp/the-biggest-threat-to-our-democracy-that-you-have-not-heard-of_partner

I personally think such a convention would lead to Civil War....

That being said as bad as it sounds the article didn't explain enough.

Could you point to some groups that want to do this?

[Farnhamia]

Definitely something that more people need to be aware of, but how is this Trump related?

Why can't this be a general American politics thread?

Because after Trump was elected, we had threads about him one after another in quick succession, so it was decided that Trump-related topics went into the megathread. So, no.

[Freezic Vast]

Https://www.salon.com/amp/the-biggest-threat-to-our-democracy-that-you-have-not-heard-of_partner

I personally think such a convention would lead to Civil War....

You think anything that you don't agree with at all will lead to a civil war.

[Triassica]

Why can't this be a general American politics thread?

Because Local and State politics need room to breathe.

This is arguably related enough.

Https://www.salon.com/amp/the-biggest-threat-to-our-democracy-that-you-have-not-heard-of_partner

I personally think such a convention would lead to Civil War....

That being said as bad as it sounds the article didn't explain enough.

Could you point to some groups that want to do this?

Koch Brothers and Alec mostly along with some liberal groups. The problem is that republicans got most of the state legislatures thanks to their ratfucking. So the idea of Republicans rewriting the Constituon in their own extreme theocratic, libertarian and oligarchical image is like the beginning of the worse of dystopia made real.

[Valgora]

Because Local and State politics need room to breathe.

This is arguably related enough.
That being said as bad as it sounds the article didn't explain enough.

Could you point to some groups that want to do this?

Koch Brothers and Alec mostly along with some liberal groups. The problem is that republicans got most of the state legislatures thanks to their ratfucking. So the idea of Republicans rewriting the Constituon in their own extreme theocratic, libertarian and oligarchical image is like the beginning of the worse of dystopia made real.

I don't think you can have theocratic and libertarian at the same time.

[Uiiop]

Koch Brothers and Alec mostly along with some liberal groups. The problem is that republicans got most of the state legislatures thanks to their ratfucking. So the idea of Republicans rewriting the Constituon in their own extreme theocratic, libertarian and oligarchical image is like the beginning of the worse of dystopia made real.

I don't think you can have theocratic and libertarian at the same time.

Depends on the "libertatarian".
Some people think they can be both.

[Triassica]

Koch Brothers and Alec mostly along with some liberal groups. The problem is that republicans got most of the state legislatures thanks to their ratfucking. So the idea of Republicans rewriting the Constituon in their own extreme theocratic, libertarian and oligarchical image is like the beginning of the worse of dystopia made real.

I don't think you can have theocratic and libertarian at the same time.

Well, libertarian as far as Republicans define it in their Orwellian doublespeak.

[Northern Davincia]

I don't think you can have theocratic and libertarian at the same time.

Depends on the "libertatarian".
Some people think they can be both.

Fusionists, maybe. Otherwise, no.

I don't think you can have theocratic and libertarian at the same time.

Well, libertarian as far as Republicans define it in their Orwellian doublespeak.

Very, very few Republicans are libertarian.

[Triassica]

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Regardless, the Kochs’ Americans for Prosperity says it favors a balanced budget convention. Such an austerity amendment would drastically cut the size of the federal government, threatening critical programs like Social Security and Medicare and eviscerating the government’s ability to respond to economic downturns, major disasters and the climate crisis.

The Kochs, in essence, want to kill the country we know, love, and want to improve, and turn what remains into a dystopian shithole by neutering the ability of the government to do anything to "promote the general Welfare" of the country and instead making it about the general welfare of businessowners who want to treat their employees like expendable slaves, which we are already dead close to becoming under the fist of the GOP.

[Uiiop]

Depends on the "libertatarian".
Some people think they can be both.

Fusionists, maybe. Otherwise, no.

Well, libertarian as far as Republicans define it in their Orwellian doublespeak.

Very, very few Republicans are libertarian.

I was more viewing it under Self-identity rather than any objective defintion tbf.

[Valgora]

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Regardless, the Kochs’ Americans for Prosperity says it favors a balanced budget convention. Such an austerity amendment would drastically cut the size of the federal government, threatening critical programs like Social Security and Medicare and eviscerating the government’s ability to respond to economic downturns, major disasters and the climate crisis.

The Kochs, in essence, want to kill the country we know, love, and want to improve, and turn what remains into a dystopian shithole by neutering the ability of the government to do anything to "promote the general Welfare" of the country and instead making it about the general welfare of businessowners who want to treat their employees like expendable slaves, which we are already dead close to becoming under the fist of the GOP.

It was already a government promoting the welfare of big businesses.
The size of the government hasn't really had an effect on it.

And there's no problem with a balanced budget but I don't trust either party to have control of such a convention.

[Northern Davincia]

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Regardless, the Kochs’ Americans for Prosperity says it favors a balanced budget convention. Such an austerity amendment would drastically cut the size of the federal government, threatening critical programs like Social Security and Medicare and eviscerating the government’s ability to respond to economic downturns, major disasters and the climate crisis.

The Kochs, in essence, want to kill the country we know, love, and want to improve, and turn what remains into a dystopian shithole by neutering the ability of the government to do anything to "promote the general Welfare" of the country and instead making it about the general welfare of businessowners who want to treat their employees like expendable slaves, which we are already dead close to becoming under the fist of the GOP.

Dystopias don't work like that. Let's not pretend that we can carry on spending as we do forever, and let's remind ourselves that America has survived small govenrment well enough.

[Telconi]

Yeah but you also think Comcast throttling My Little Pony erotic fanfiction would result in a civil war too.

And you are on my ignore list for that unhelpful snide remark...

I am honored, truly.

[Conserative Morality]

Dystopias don't work like that. Let's not pretend that we can carry on spending as we do forever, and let's remind ourselves that America has survived small govenrment well enough.

Did it? I seem to remember the period of 'small government' before the Civil War being one of abject repression by individual states.

[Vassenor]

A balanced budget is one of those things that sounds good on paper but is effectively electoral suicide to actually implement just because of what that entails.

[Northern Davincia]

Dystopias don't work like that. Let's not pretend that we can carry on spending as we do forever, and let's remind ourselves that America has survived small govenrment well enough.

Did it? I seem to remember the period of 'small government' before the Civil War being one of abject repression by individual states.

Those were just happy little mistakes. Second time will be the charm.

[New haven america]

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Regardless, the Kochs’ Americans for Prosperity says it favors a balanced budget convention. Such an austerity amendment would drastically cut the size of the federal government, threatening critical programs like Social Security and Medicare and eviscerating the government’s ability to respond to economic downturns, major disasters and the climate crisis.

The Kochs, in essence, want to kill the country we know, love, and want to improve, and turn what remains into a dystopian shithole by neutering the ability of the government to do anything to "promote the general Welfare" of the country and instead making it about the general welfare of businessowners who want to treat their employees like expendable slaves, which we are already dead close to becoming under the fist of the GOP.

Dystopias don't work like that.

You're right, what they're describing is the current Corporate Autocracy we're living in.

[Sovaal]

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Regardless, the Kochs’ Americans for Prosperity says it favors a balanced budget convention. Such an austerity amendment would drastically cut the size of the federal government, threatening critical programs like Social Security and Medicare and eviscerating the government’s ability to respond to economic downturns, major disasters and the climate crisis.

The Kochs, in essence, want to kill the country we know, love, and want to improve, and turn what remains into a dystopian shithole by neutering the ability of the government to do anything to "promote the general Welfare" of the country and instead making it about the general welfare of businessowners who want to treat their employees like expendable slaves, which we are already dead close to becoming under the fist of the GOP.

Yah, big government, worked out so well for the Natives.