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Postby Petrasylvania » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:14 pm

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The Parkus Empire wrote:Yeah, heh heh, "taxes".

The Republican Party is the Party of the Working Class. Heh heh...

As in working over the working class.
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Postby Valgora » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:14 pm

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Freezic Vast wrote:They won't, and I doubt they will, not like I fucking give a damn, unlike you.

Says the pot to the kettle.

Again. Blind to everything the Republican party stand for. If they had it their way, they get rid of the 19th amendment. They are as anti-woman as the Islamic State.

That's a bit of an extreme comparison.
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Postby Freezic Vast » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:15 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:They won't, and I doubt they will, not like I fucking give a damn, unlike you.

Says the pot to the kettle.

Again. Blind to everything the Republican party stand for. If they had it their way, they get rid of the 19th amendment. They are as anti-woman as the Islamic State.

So are you everything left of the Democrats, you hypocrite.

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Postby Valrifell » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:15 pm

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Well, only after they started marching towards Moscow in the greatest twist everyone (except Stalin, somehow) saw coming a mile away.

They had to build up the military first before they could even hope to fight Nazi Germany.
And is there any actual proof Stalin didn't expect Hitler to invade? Because I'm pretty sure they hated each other and the reason he signed that deal with Hitler when Germany invaded Poland was to build up the Russian military.


I'm pretty sure there are sources that say Stalin didn't expect the betrayal, that might've been a timing thing, though.

Either way, I'm not looking for sources because that's not the point of the thread.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:16 pm

Valgora wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Again. Blind to everything the Republican party stand for. If they had it their way, they get rid of the 19th amendment. They are as anti-woman as the Islamic State.

That's a bit of an extreme comparison.

Not if they want to abolish abortion and rob women of the right to control their bodies.
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Postby Valgora » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:16 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Valgora wrote:They had to build up the military first before they could even hope to fight Nazi Germany.
And is there any actual proof Stalin didn't expect Hitler to invade? Because I'm pretty sure they hated each other and the reason he signed that deal with Hitler when Germany invaded Poland was to build up the Russian military.


I'm pretty sure there are sources that say Stalin didn't expect the betrayal, that might've been a timing thing, though.

Either way, I'm not looking for sources because that's not the point of the thread.

Fair enough.
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Postby Freezic Vast » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:17 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Valgora wrote:That's a bit of an extreme comparison.

Not if they want to abolish abortion and rob women of the right to control their bodies.

Won't happen.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:17 pm

Olerand wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Yeah, heh heh, "taxes".

The Republican Party is the Party of the Working Class. Heh heh...

More than the party that wants to tell businesses they can get around regulations and unions so long as they hire oversees.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:18 pm

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The Flutterlands wrote:Not if they want to abolish abortion and rob women of the right to control their bodies.

Won't happen.

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Postby Valgora » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:18 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Valgora wrote:That's a bit of an extreme comparison.

Not if they want to abolish abortion and rob women of the right to control their bodies.

Exactly how anti-woman is the Islamic State? Cause I have no idea to be honest.
Is it about the same level as Islam and other religions normally, or is IS a bit more anti-woman?
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:18 pm

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The Flutterlands wrote:Not if they want to abolish abortion and rob women of the right to control their bodies.

Won't happen.

That's probably what you said about Donald Trump being elected President of the United States.
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Postby Freezic Vast » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:20 pm

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Freezic Vast wrote:Won't happen.

That's probably what you said about Donald Trump being elected President of the United States.

No, because I voted for him and had hope that he would (And it happened)
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Postby Olerand » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:20 pm

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Olerand wrote:The Republican Party is the Party of the Working Class. Heh heh...

More than the party that wants to tell businesses they can get around regulations and unions so long as they hire oversees.

Are you referring to the H1B visa or whatever you call that? I don't see how this one policy makes the Republican Party's consistent anti-worker policies and evident class hatred... I don't know... Not acceptable but... Somehow something related to the working class?
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Postby Ism » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:20 pm

Olerand wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:More than the party that wants to tell businesses they can get around regulations and unions so long as they hire oversees.

Are you referring to the H1B visa or whatever you call that? I don't see how this one policy makes the Republican Party's consistent anti-worker policies and evident class hatred... I don't know... Not acceptable but... Somehow something related to the working class?


Pretty sure he's referring to outsourcing.

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:22 pm

Olerand wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:More than the party that wants to tell businesses they can get around regulations and unions so long as they hire oversees.

Are you referring to the H1B visa or whatever you call that? I don't see how this one policy makes the Republican Party's consistent anti-worker policies and evident class hatred... I don't know... Not acceptable but... Somehow something related to the working class?

I'm talking about outsourcing, neoliberalism. Whereas Trump is a proponent of the American School of Economics.
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Postby North Reislich » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:25 pm

Vassenor wrote:So on the one hand we have Trumpists claiming that the opposition is being uncivil because SHS was asked politely to leave a restaurant and the director of ICE has protesters outside their house.

On the other, we have Milo making off-hand remarks about wanting to have journalists murdered then hiding behind the "I was just joking" spiel when called on it.

But apparently it's the anti-Trump side that is being uncivil. :roll:




Also, Oh hey, Pence is a fucking hypocrite.



Both sides are uncivil when it comes to words. Never seen Milo burn riot like Antifa does though.

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Postby Olerand » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:27 pm

Ism wrote:
Olerand wrote:Are you referring to the H1B visa or whatever you call that? I don't see how this one policy makes the Republican Party's consistent anti-worker policies and evident class hatred... I don't know... Not acceptable but... Somehow something related to the working class?


Pretty sure he's referring to outsourcing.

Democrats support outsourcing? Someone should tell them that, I don't think that policy polls well!

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Olerand wrote:Are you referring to the H1B visa or whatever you call that? I don't see how this one policy makes the Republican Party's consistent anti-worker policies and evident class hatred... I don't know... Not acceptable but... Somehow something related to the working class?

I'm talking about outsourcing, neoliberalism. Whereas Trump is a proponent of the American School of Economics.

Trump a proponent of the American school of economics................................................................ A school that actually, much like Christian democracy in Europe, sought a more harmonious relationship between labour and capital, without threatening capital's dominance... Now, where is this harmonious relationship? Where are the overtures to labour?

Back to my original American question, where are the workers' policies of the Republican Party?
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:27 pm

North Reislich wrote:
Vassenor wrote:So on the one hand we have Trumpists claiming that the opposition is being uncivil because SHS was asked politely to leave a restaurant and the director of ICE has protesters outside their house.

On the other, we have Milo making off-hand remarks about wanting to have journalists murdered then hiding behind the "I was just joking" spiel when called on it.

But apparently it's the anti-Trump side that is being uncivil. :roll:




Also, Oh hey, Pence is a fucking hypocrite.



Both sides are uncivil when it comes to words. Never seen Milo burn riot like Antifa does though.


You've never seen a right-wing shitshow of a protest? Seriously? Not one springs to mind? None involving, say, tiki-torches?
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Postby Galloism » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:27 pm

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Galloism wrote:The poor file taxes very regularly. It’s a substantial portion of their income.

Yeah, heh heh, "taxes".

Yes. “Taxes”. Same form the super wealthy use.
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Postby Telconi » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:28 pm

Olerand wrote:
Ism wrote:
Pretty sure he's referring to outsourcing.

Democrats support outsourcing? Someone should tell them that, I don't think that policy polls well!

The Parkus Empire wrote:I'm talking about outsourcing, neoliberalism. Whereas Trump is a proponent of the American School of Economics.

Trump a proponent of the American school of economics................................................................ A school that actually, much like Christian democracy in Europe, sought a more harmonious relationship between labour and capital, without threatening capital's dominance... Now, where is this harmonious relationship? Where are the overtures to labour?

Back to my original American question, where are the workers' policies of the Republican Party?


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Postby Valrifell » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:29 pm

Telconi wrote:
Olerand wrote:Democrats support outsourcing? Someone should tell them that, I don't think that policy polls well!


Trump a proponent of the American school of economics................................................................ A school that actually, much like Christian democracy in Europe, sought a more harmonious relationship between labour and capital, without threatening capital's dominance... Now, where is this harmonious relationship? Where are the overtures to labour?

Back to my original American question, where are the workers' policies of the Republican Party?


Protectionism.


Protectionism is not necessarily pro-worker, and historically has benefited the wealthier native businesses than the people they employ.
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Valrifell wrote:
North Reislich wrote:

Both sides are uncivil when it comes to words. Never seen Milo burn riot like Antifa does though.


You've never seen a right-wing shitshow of a protest? Seriously? Not one springs to mind? None involving, say, tiki-torches?


Was Milo there?
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Telconi wrote:
Olerand wrote:Democrats support outsourcing? Someone should tell them that, I don't think that policy polls well!


Trump a proponent of the American school of economics................................................................ A school that actually, much like Christian democracy in Europe, sought a more harmonious relationship between labour and capital, without threatening capital's dominance... Now, where is this harmonious relationship? Where are the overtures to labour?

Back to my original American question, where are the workers' policies of the Republican Party?


Protectionism.

Coupled with what is essentially union-busting. To do what? The workers can't benefit from protectionism, or the induced labour shortage of strict immigration limitations, if they can't negotiate their conditions. So what is protectionism for?

Not to mention the harm that counter-protectionist measures by other countries will bring on these same workers.
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Valrifell wrote:
You've never seen a right-wing shitshow of a protest? Seriously? Not one springs to mind? None involving, say, tiki-torches?


Was Milo there?


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North Reislich wrote:
Vassenor wrote:So on the one hand we have Trumpists claiming that the opposition is being uncivil because SHS was asked politely to leave a restaurant and the director of ICE has protesters outside their house.

On the other, we have Milo making off-hand remarks about wanting to have journalists murdered then hiding behind the "I was just joking" spiel when called on it.

But apparently it's the anti-Trump side that is being uncivil. :roll:




Also, Oh hey, Pence is a fucking hypocrite.



Both sides are uncivil when it comes to words. Never seen Milo burn riot like Antifa does though.


So how many people have Antifa movements killed?
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