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Postby Vassenor » Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:40 am

Corrian wrote:Does Guliani keep just digging Trump a bigger grave?


No, his recollection of how big the grave was meant to be just keeps changing.
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Postby Taxi King » Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:46 am

Vassenor wrote:
Corrian wrote:Does Guliani keep just digging Trump a bigger grave?


No, his recollection of how big the grave was meant to be just keeps changing.


The grave has to hold those huge hands and what not.
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I find my 5-years experiences in NS as a defining qualification for me to be a dictator.

Pfft I got 10 years. :p
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Postby Dahon » Sun Jun 03, 2018 6:13 pm

Meanwhile, in Germany: Subverting democratically elected governments to own the libs

In an interview by Breitbart (fucking Breitbart what?!), US ambassador Richard "I'm gay, don't criticize me!" Grennell apparently sees his role as contributing to the political empowerment of European conservatives, especially those seen as helpful to Trump's agenda. This runs counter to the State Department's own assertion that the Trump administration is neutral with regards to European politics.

(Will Trump think of deposing the likes of Merkel or Macron to get his way? Stay tuned!)
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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Jun 03, 2018 6:14 pm

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I find my 5-years experiences in NS as a defining qualification for me to be a dictator.

Pfft I got 10 years. :p


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Postby The Knockout Gun Gals » Sun Jun 03, 2018 7:19 pm

Dahon wrote:Meanwhile, in Germany: Subverting democratically elected governments to own the libs

In an interview by Breitbart (fucking Breitbart what?!), US ambassador Richard "I'm gay, don't criticize me!" Grennell apparently sees his role as contributing to the political empowerment of European conservatives, especially those seen as helpful to Trump's agenda. This runs counter to the State Department's own assertion that the Trump administration is neutral with regards to European politics.

(Will Trump think of deposing the likes of Merkel or Macron to get his way? Stay tuned!)


I don't really think it is a good idea for Europe to have conservatives. No offense, but that could be use as a breeding point for terrorism, seeing that ISIS focused more not on Middle East after their loss there. Beside, the world needs a counter-conservative power. If USA and Europe being conservative, that is not good.
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Postby Bombadil » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:53 am

Thermodolia wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/06/04/trump-asserts-absolute-right-to-pardon-himself-but-suggests-he-has-not-done-anything-wrong/

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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:55 am

Dahon wrote:Meanwhile, in Germany: Subverting democratically elected governments to own the libs

In an interview by Breitbart (fucking Breitbart what?!), US ambassador Richard "I'm gay, don't criticize me!" Grennell apparently sees his role as contributing to the political empowerment of European conservatives, especially those seen as helpful to Trump's agenda. This runs counter to the State Department's own assertion that the Trump administration is neutral with regards to European politics.

(Will Trump think of deposing the likes of Merkel or Macron to get his way? Stay tuned!)


Trump's gotta have his lackeys and yes men.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Jun 04, 2018 7:04 am

Thermodolia wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/06/04/trump-asserts-absolute-right-to-pardon-himself-but-suggests-he-has-not-done-anything-wrong/

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Jun 04, 2018 7:44 am

The Flutterlands wrote:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/supreme-court-rules-in-favor-of-baker-who-denied-same-sex-couple-a-wedding-cake/

They just unleashed a dangerous slippery slope...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.html


No they didn't.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Mon Jun 04, 2018 7:45 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/supreme-court-rules-in-favor-of-baker-who-denied-same-sex-couple-a-wedding-cake/

They just unleashed a dangerous slippery slope...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.html


No they didn't.

How didn't they? Explain? Religion has been used as a reason for discrimination towards all...
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Jun 04, 2018 7:47 am

The Flutterlands wrote:How didn't they? Explain? Religion has been used as a reason for discrimination towards all...


Did you actually read either article or the ruling in question?
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Postby The Flutterlands » Mon Jun 04, 2018 7:49 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:How didn't they? Explain? Religion has been used as a reason for discrimination towards all...


Did you actually read either article or the ruling in question?

Religious folk are exempted from civil rights laws. That is what I got out of it
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Jun 04, 2018 7:52 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Did you actually read either article or the ruling in question?

Religious folk are exempted from civil rights laws. That is what I got out of it


I'll take that as a no. To quote CNN: "The court held that the Colorado Civil Rights Commission showed hostility toward the baker based on his religious beliefs. The ruling is a win for baker Jack Phillips but leaves unsettled the broader constitutional questions the case presented.

The ruling, written by Justice Anthony Kennedy, is not the wide-ranging ruling on religious liberty that some expected. It is tailored to the case at hand with the justices holding that members of the Colorado Civil Rights Commission showed animus toward Phillips specifically when they suggested his claims of religious freedom was made to justify discrimination."

It's pretty much incapable of being a slippery slope because it quite specifically only deals with this case. You should actually start reading articles instead of just being outraged by headlines, this isn't the first time you've done that.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:19 am

The Flutterlands wrote:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/supreme-court-rules-in-favor-of-baker-who-denied-same-sex-couple-a-wedding-cake/

They just unleashed a dangerous slippery slope...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.html

No it didn’t. SCOTUS only ruled on the case at hand and that’s it. They didn’t say that the law is unconstitutional but that the way the Colorado Civil Rights Commission applied it was. The CCRC didn’t act as a neutral arbiter and was unfairly hostile towards the baker
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:22 am


Are you digging up old articles and playing them off as new information? Because that article is almost a year old
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Postby Freezic Vast » Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:27 am

If someone refuses to bake a cake for your wedding, go to another bakery and get them to do it, no need in suing over someone refusing to bake you a cake on the grounds of their religious objection. It's nothing more than a total waste of time and money, and frankly I couldn't be bothered about this wedding cake fiasco, and the courts have better things to do than worry about this.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:29 am

Freezic Vast wrote:If someone refuses to bake a cake for your wedding, go to another bakery and get them to do it, no need in suing over someone refusing to bake you a cake on the grounds of their religious objection. It's nothing more than a total waste of time and money, and frankly I couldn't be bothered about this wedding cake fiasco, and the courts have better things to do than worry about this.


You do realise that "my religion says so" has been used to justify racial discrimination and the like?
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Postby Freezic Vast » Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:37 am

Vassenor wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:If someone refuses to bake a cake for your wedding, go to another bakery and get them to do it, no need in suing over someone refusing to bake you a cake on the grounds of their religious objection. It's nothing more than a total waste of time and money, and frankly I couldn't be bothered about this wedding cake fiasco, and the courts have better things to do than worry about this.


You do realise that "my religion says so" has been used to justify racial discrimination and the like?

Why should a baker be forced to bake a cake, despite the fact he said no? Better question, why not go to another bakery that will bake a cake?
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:39 am

Freezic Vast wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
You do realise that "my religion says so" has been used to justify racial discrimination and the like?

Why should a baker be forced to bake a cake, despite the fact he said no? Better question, why not go to another bakery that will bake a cake?


If you're running a public accommodation, you don't get to discriminate.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Mon Jun 04, 2018 12:05 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/supreme-court-rules-in-favor-of-baker-who-denied-same-sex-couple-a-wedding-cake/

They just unleashed a dangerous slippery slope...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.html

No it didn’t. SCOTUS only ruled on the case at hand and that’s it. They didn’t say that the law is unconstitutional but that the way the Colorado Civil Rights Commission applied it was. The CCRC didn’t act as a neutral arbiter and was unfairly hostile towards the baker

Regardless, this sets precedent and if Kennedy goes and Trump replaces with him with another right wing nut, it could get worse.
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