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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue May 29, 2018 6:47 am

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Nova Anglicana wrote:I agree with limiting abortion and increasing welfare, healthcare, foster care, and the like, but capital punishment for abortion is a complete wacko bird position. If you respect the right to life of the unborn, you need to respect the right to life of everyone.

One who commits murder or other horrific crimes, have sacrificed their rights, up to and including their right to life.

An abortionist who carries out elective abortions is simply a mass murderer

Then is IED'ing abortion clinics right and proper? It's after all "defence of others".
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Postby Napkiraly » Tue May 29, 2018 6:48 am

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Napkiraly wrote:Fetuses are not parasites.

PS pro-choice peeps: calling fetuses parasites does not help my dudes.


By definition fetuses are parasites. The only difference is that there is sentimentality attached to the cells. Also, my view is antinatalism which supercedes pro-choice.

By definition, they are not. It is rare you will find any biologist who would classify them as such. Science vastly overrides your opinion.

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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Tue May 29, 2018 6:48 am

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Meikaii wrote:
By definition fetuses are parasites. The only difference is that there is sentimentality attached to the cells. Also, my view is antinatalism which supercedes pro-choice.

By definition, they are not. It is rare you will find any biologist who would classify them as such. Science vastly overrides your opinion.

I was literally taught in high school that fetuses were by biologically parasites
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue May 29, 2018 6:49 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Claorica wrote:One who commits murder or other horrific crimes, have sacrificed their rights, up to and including their right to life.

An abortionist who carries out elective abortions is simply a mass murderer

Then is IED'ing abortion clincs right and proper? It's after all "defence of others".

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Postby Napkiraly » Tue May 29, 2018 6:50 am

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Geneviev wrote:I have to agree here. They aren't really parasites.

par·a·site
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an organism that lives in or on another organism (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the host's expense.

"I, Internationalist Bastard, used the quick Google definition without any sense of the actual biological and scientific criteria in order for something to be considered a parasite in a hackneyed attempt to make it look like I know what I am talking about". GG no re.

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Postby Alvecia » Tue May 29, 2018 6:51 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:By definition, they are not. It is rare you will find any biologist who would classify them as such. Science vastly overrides your opinion.

I was literally taught in high school that fetuses were by biologically parasites

Just googling the definition I reckon it's easily defined as such, so I wonder where all the biologists are disagreeing. Is it the latter part, I wonder?
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Postby Ifreann » Tue May 29, 2018 6:51 am

Alvecia wrote:
Claorica wrote:
No it is not.

Considering there's a human life being snuffed out, that's not a good reason whatsoever, and anyone thinks it is, including yourself, is defending the greatest holocaust in history, currently scored at 60,000,000.

Any woman who is proud of an abortion, (or like some disgusting persons, proud of multiple abortions) is like a Nazi proudly strutting themselves, bragging about how many untermensch they've killed, or a soviet soldier proud of the Germans he's murdered or raped.

An abortionist who is proud of his career is even worse.

How are we defining "human life" here?

Human? Or person?

Because biologically my hair follicles are human, but I doubt anyone would have many qualms about "killing" them en-masse.
They certainly aren't people though.

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Postby Claorica » Tue May 29, 2018 6:51 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Claorica wrote:One who commits murder or other horrific crimes, have sacrificed their rights, up to and including their right to life.

An abortionist who carries out elective abortions is simply a mass murderer

Then is IED'ing abortion clincs right and proper? It's after all "defence of others".


It is improper but in the same way that Malcom X's calls for violence and bombing of police stations by Mandela's goons were improper.
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Postby Napkiraly » Tue May 29, 2018 6:51 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:By definition, they are not. It is rare you will find any biologist who would classify them as such. Science vastly overrides your opinion.

I was literally taught in high school that fetuses were by biologically parasites

Then your biology teacher was/is a fucking retard.

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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Tue May 29, 2018 6:52 am

Alvecia wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:I was literally taught in high school that fetuses were by biologically parasites

Just googling the definition I reckon it's easily defined as such, so I wonder where all the biologists are disagreeing. Is it the latter part, I wonder?
parasite
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Yes, I googled the definition cuz that’s easiest way to get a definition
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Postby Meikaii » Tue May 29, 2018 6:52 am

Napkiraly wrote:
Meikaii wrote:
By definition fetuses are parasites. The only difference is that there is sentimentality attached to the cells. Also, my view is antinatalism which supercedes pro-choice.

By definition, they are not. It is rare you will find any biologist who would classify them as such. Science vastly overrides your opinion.


Someone on the last page or two already proved you wrong by posting the definition. Additionally, science uses the most accurate terms available. Fetus describes the development of the cells better than parasite much like how penis is more accurate than cock. Even though its the same thing, one is obviously more accurate and thus more informative.
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Postby The Psychotic Royal Princesses » Tue May 29, 2018 6:52 am

Human embryos are parasites by biological definition. It takes resources from a host. A parasite doesn’t need to be of a different species or different organism. It isn’t bad to call an embryo a parasite, it’s just what it is. And women can do as they want with it.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue May 29, 2018 6:53 am

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Then is IED'ing abortion clincs right and proper? It's after all "defence of others".


It is improper but in the same way that Malcom X's calls for violence and bombing of police stations by Mandela's goons were improper.

But according to you bombing doctor's homes and mutilating them with shrapnel simply because they're providing a medical service violates nobody's rights since they haven't got rights.

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Postby Alvecia » Tue May 29, 2018 6:53 am

Napkiraly wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:I was literally taught in high school that fetuses were by biologically parasites

Then your biology teacher was/is a fucking retard.

What is the criteria that mean foetus does not meet the definition of parasite? Genuine question, I don't know the answer. Looking to learn.

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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue May 29, 2018 6:53 am

Notice people who are upset about abortions will never protest to protect cancer.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Tue May 29, 2018 6:54 am

Napkiraly wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:I was literally taught in high school that fetuses were by biologically parasites

Then your biology teacher was/is a fucking retard.

Eh. Point is I’ve always been told that by definition that a parasite survives by draining its host body of things, and gives nothing back. And I know that’s literally what a fetus is
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Postby Claorica » Tue May 29, 2018 6:54 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Geneviev wrote:I have to agree here. They aren't really parasites.

par·a·site
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By this definition a nursing infant is a parasite, so I'm guessing you're supporting after-birth abortions now.
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Postby Roskian Federation » Tue May 29, 2018 6:55 am

Napkiraly wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:I was literally taught in high school that fetuses were by biologically parasites

Then your biology teacher was/is a fucking retard.


I think you're just using the negative connotation.

Fetuses are in fact parasites, just like tomatoes are fruit. The point is that the life of the fetus comes from the host, while offering no tangible benefits back. It doesn't harm the mother, but Napkiraly we can't go back to just shouting and not using scientific evidence to back up such a claim.
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Claorica wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:par·a·site
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an organism that lives in or on another organism (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the host's expense.


By this definition a nursing infant is a parasite, so I'm guessing you're supporting after-birth abortions now.

Honestly I’m game for a 27 year late abortion
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Postby Claorica » Tue May 29, 2018 6:56 am

Petrasylvania wrote:Notice people who are upset about abortions will never protest to protect cancer.


Because cancer is a malignant and ultimately deadly mass of cells which is, minus a small mutation, genetically identical to that of the sufferer.

an unborn child is not malignant, and genetically unique from the mother.
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Claorica wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:par·a·site
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an organism that lives in or on another organism (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the host's expense.


By this definition a nursing infant is a parasite, so I'm guessing you're supporting after-birth abortions now.


Infants are only getting food from the mother - and in most cases it isn't 100% necessary (though more helpful) for the infant to feed from mama. I think that in this event that infants would not reasonably be considered parasites.
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Postby Claorica » Tue May 29, 2018 6:57 am

Roskian Federation wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Then your biology teacher was/is a fucking retard.


I think you're just using the negative connotation.

Fetuses are in fact parasites, just like tomatoes are fruit. The point is that the life of the fetus comes from the host, while offering no tangible benefits back. It doesn't harm the mother, but Napkiraly we can't go back to just shouting and not using scientific evidence to back up such a claim.


As said before:

by this definition a nursing child is a parasite.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue May 29, 2018 6:57 am

Claorica wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Then is IED'ing abortion clincs right and proper? It's after all "defence of others".


It is improper but in the same way that Malcom X's calls for violence and bombing of police stations by Mandela's goons were improper.

So you believe that legal abortion is a holocaust causing huge numbers of deaths and that the medics responsible are worse than the Nazis.

And now you tell us that you also believe that it is wrong to use violence to prevent these deaths.



So...do you think it was wrong to fight Hitler and stop the Holocaust?

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Postby Roskian Federation » Tue May 29, 2018 6:57 am

Claorica wrote:
Roskian Federation wrote:
I think you're just using the negative connotation.

Fetuses are in fact parasites, just like tomatoes are fruit. The point is that the life of the fetus comes from the host, while offering no tangible benefits back. It doesn't harm the mother, but Napkiraly we can't go back to just shouting and not using scientific evidence to back up such a claim.


As said before:

by this definition a nursing child is a parasite.


Roskian Federation wrote:
Claorica wrote:
By this definition a nursing infant is a parasite, so I'm guessing you're supporting after-birth abortions now.


Infants are only getting food from the mother - and in most cases it isn't 100% necessary (though more helpful) for the infant to feed from mama. I think that in this event that infants would not reasonably be considered parasites.
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Postby Gospel Power » Tue May 29, 2018 6:57 am

Wow, capital punishment mean death penalty for women that commit abortion?!
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