Capital Punishment for Abortion? Yes.

[Garden at 6th Mile Road]

I fully agree with this proposal, but it does not go far enough for my liking. For every case of abortion, three people should be added to death row. The surgeon, the woman, and the man who impregnated the woman, for it is as much his fault as it is hers that a child was to be created. Not only will this control overpopulation, but it will control the rampant spread of STDs/STIs, and instill in our citizens another healthy dose of fear. The more we control the brainless masses, the better everyone is for it.

You made this poorly written dystopia a lot more well written.

Sounds like a NS-issue option. It's just very very crazy.

[West Leas Oros]

You made this poorly written dystopia a lot more well written.

Sounds like a NS-issue option. It's just very very crazy.

I’d like an issue like this. Someone make this into an issue.

[The Sakhalinsk Empire]

Why are we even talking about this? I understand that people believe that the life of an unborn child is important, but how about their mothers? How about soldiers killing people; isn't this also loss of human life?

I disagree on abortion most of the time, but in the cases when it is most needed - rape and permanently disabling defects (which harm the child if they were to be born) - I fully support it.

[Claorica]

Capital Punishment for a doctor who makes a living off of murder (Exceptions only for threat to the mother's life or the child being 100% incapable of life outside the womb). If the woman was there of her own accord, without any coercion or misleading, she should be given a hefty fine. If someone else coerced her in any way shape or form, they should be given a hefty fine and face possible jailtime if they coerced through anything that can be construed as a physical, mental, or socioeconomic threat.

"I'm unprepared," "I can't afford it," and "It will mess up my career," are NOT valid reasons to have an abortion.

[Alvecia]

Capital Punishment for a doctor who makes a living off of murder (Exceptions only for threat to the mother's life or the child being 100% incapable of life outside the womb). If the woman was there of her own accord, without any coercion or misleading, she should be given a hefty fine. If someone else coerced her in any way shape or form, they should be given a hefty fine and face possible jailtime if they coerced through anything that can be construed as a physical, mental, or socioeconomic threat.

"I'm unprepared," "I can't afford it," and "It will mess up my career," are NOT valid reasons to have an abortion.

Sure they are.

[Claorica]

Why are we even talking about this? I understand that people believe that the life of an unborn child is important, but how about their mothers? How about soldiers killing people; isn't this also loss of human life?

I disagree on abortion most of the time, but in the cases when it is most needed - rape and permanently disabling defects (which harm the child if they were to be born) - I fully support it.

the vast majority of abortions are had because the mother is essentially seeking to use it as contraception, which basically means she is instigating murder here.

Soldiers killing people: Troops are already tried and imprisoned or sometimes killed if they intentionally kill a civilian or other protected individual on the battlefield. As far as other combatants, this is considered justifiable as they are A) acting on behalf of a government, which is given the authority to commit such an act, and B) many times they are defending themselves, civilians, or their comrades.

[Claorica]

Capital Punishment for a doctor who makes a living off of murder (Exceptions only for threat to the mother's life or the child being 100% incapable of life outside the womb). If the woman was there of her own accord, without any coercion or misleading, she should be given a hefty fine. If someone else coerced her in any way shape or form, they should be given a hefty fine and face possible jailtime if they coerced through anything that can be construed as a physical, mental, or socioeconomic threat.

"I'm unprepared," "I can't afford it," and "It will mess up my career," are NOT valid reasons to have an abortion.

Sure they are.

No. They aren't.

They're petty reasons to kill a human being.

[Alvecia]

Sure they are.

No. They aren't.

They're petty reasons to kill a human being.

Perfectly good reasons to terminate a foetus though.

[Ifreann]

Capital Punishment for a doctor who makes a living off of murder (Exceptions only for threat to the mother's life or the child being 100% incapable of life outside the womb). If the woman was there of her own accord, without any coercion or misleading, she should be given a hefty fine. If someone else coerced her in any way shape or form, they should be given a hefty fine and face possible jailtime if they coerced through anything that can be construed as a physical, mental, or socioeconomic threat.

"I'm unprepared," "I can't afford it," and "It will mess up my career," are NOT valid reasons to have an abortion.

Not wanting to be pregnant is all the reason someone needs to terminate their pregnancy. Why they don't want to be pregnant is their own business.

[Eglaecia]

I'm a woman.

Apologies, I never read your signature.

anyone who starts off a reply with "so in other words..." or "so what you're saying is..." should just forfeit the argument and admit they can't refute the point being made. He didn't say a woman loses all right to control what is done with her body, he said that a fetus is not a woman's body.


No, people should only be allowed to reproduce if they're able to afford it. My single mother earning less than £20k after taxes has been able to raise me and my sister since alone for the past five and a half years on a low income. You know how? Because she budgeted well. Most people think they can't afford children so they abort the baby, but the reason they can't afford it is because they spend so much on useless luxuries ie expensive clothes, games, TVs, makeup etc.

Actually most women seek abortion for multiple issues, not just "I can't afford it" - only six percent sought abortion purely for that reason. 34% because the pregnancy was unexpected and they didn't consider themselves prepared.

I was talking about those who aborted it for financial reasons. Reasons such as unexpected are complete horse shit. "WOW I DIDNT EXPECT TO GET PREGNANT HAVING SEX" yeah maybe it's a good thing these people aren't reproducing.

What is contraception?
What is a condom?

Contraceptive failure is a thing.

Abstinence is also a thing

[Petrasylvania]

Capital punishment for abortion? Someone wants to vindicate the murder of George Tiller badly.

What next, all women are now Handmaids?

[Ifreann]

I'm a woman.

Apologies, I never read your signature.

Actually most women seek abortion for multiple issues, not just "I can't afford it" - only six percent sought abortion purely for that reason. 34% because the pregnancy was unexpected and they didn't consider themselves prepared.

I was talking about those who aborted it for financial reasons. Reasons such as unexpected are complete horse shit. "WOW I DIDNT EXPECT TO GET PREGNANT HAVING SEX" yeah maybe it's a good thing these people aren't reproducing.

Contraceptive failure is a thing.

Abstinence is also a thing

[Meikaii]

Of course, this conveniently leaves out the fact that an individual who wants to get rid of the parasite has numerous other options that look like accidents that can force a miscarriage. For example, 'falling down the stairs,' 'getting mugged,' or an 'automobile accident.' For those with determination, there are plenty of options. You might as well do the kind thing and allow abortions to all who choose to get one.

[Petrasylvania]

Of course, this conveniently leaves out the fact that an individual who wants to get rid of the parasite has numerous other options that look like accidents that can force a miscarriage. For example, 'falling down the stairs,' 'getting mugged,' or an 'automobile accident.' For those with determination, there are plenty of options. You might as well do the kind thing and allow abortions to all who choose to get one.

And the sad thing is some women who miscarried through no fault of their own have been charged with murder.

[Claorica]

Capital Punishment for a doctor who makes a living off of murder (Exceptions only for threat to the mother's life or the child being 100% incapable of life outside the womb). If the woman was there of her own accord, without any coercion or misleading, she should be given a hefty fine. If someone else coerced her in any way shape or form, they should be given a hefty fine and face possible jailtime if they coerced through anything that can be construed as a physical, mental, or socioeconomic threat.

"I'm unprepared," "I can't afford it," and "It will mess up my career," are NOT valid reasons to have an abortion.

Not wanting to be pregnant is all the reason someone needs to terminate their pregnancy. Why they don't want to be pregnant is their own business.

No it is not.

Considering there's a human life being snuffed out, that's not a good reason whatsoever, and anyone thinks it is, including yourself, is defending the greatest holocaust in history, currently scored at 60,000,000.

Any woman who is proud of an abortion, (or like some disgusting persons, proud of multiple abortions) is like a Nazi proudly strutting themselves, bragging about how many untermensch they've killed, or a soviet soldier proud of the Germans he's murdered or raped.

An abortionist who is proud of his career is even worse.

[Geneviev]

I fully agree with this proposal, but it does not go far enough for my liking. For every case of abortion, three people should be added to death row. The surgeon, the woman, and the man who impregnated the woman, for it is as much his fault as it is hers that a child was to be created. Not only will this control overpopulation, but it will control the rampant spread of STDs/STIs, and instill in our citizens another healthy dose of fear. The more we control the brainless masses, the better everyone is for it.

That's just too much.

[Eglaecia]

Apologies, I never read your signature.


I was talking about those who aborted it for financial reasons. Reasons such as unexpected are complete horse shit. "WOW I DIDNT EXPECT TO GET PREGNANT HAVING SEX" yeah maybe it's a good thing these people aren't reproducing.


Abstinence is also a thing

I don't know why I bother with you lot. No effort at all in challenging anything I say, it's just FUNNY MAYMAY and WITTY RESPONSE COPIED FROM ATHEIST FACEBOOK. Go add another strike to your "INTERNET ARGUMENTS WITH RELIGITARDS WON" wall because I'm not wasting anymore time with you.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

I don't know why I bother with you lot. No effort at all in challenging anything I say, it's just FUNNY MAYMAY and WITTY RESPONSE COPIED FROM ATHEIST FACEBOOK. Go add another strike to your "INTERNET ARGUMENTS WITH RELIGITARDS WON" wall because I'm not wasting anymore time with you.

So tell me when the last time abstinence was effective in population control in a large population the size of countries?

[Roskian Federation]

Why are we even talking about this? I understand that people believe that the life of an unborn child is important, but how about their mothers? How about soldiers killing people; isn't this also loss of human life?

I disagree on abortion most of the time, but in the cases when it is most needed - rape and permanently disabling defects (which harm the child if they were to be born) - I fully support it.

They should also be executed for murder.

[Napkiraly]

Of course, this conveniently leaves out the fact that an individual who wants to get rid of the parasite has numerous other options that look like accidents that can force a miscarriage. For example, 'falling down the stairs,' 'getting mugged,' or an 'automobile accident.' For those with determination, there are plenty of options. You might as well do the kind thing and allow abortions to all who choose to get one.

Fetuses are not parasites.

PS pro-choice peeps: calling fetuses parasites does not help my dudes.

[Eglaecia]

I don't know why I bother with you lot. No effort at all in challenging anything I say, it's just FUNNY MAYMAY and WITTY RESPONSE COPIED FROM ATHEIST FACEBOOK. Go add another strike to your "INTERNET ARGUMENTS WITH RELIGITARDS WON" wall because I'm not wasting anymore time with you.

So tell me when the last time abstinence was effective in population control in a large population the size of countries?

What the hell does population control have to do with anything? I'm not advocating anything like that.

[Proletarians Republic]

That is a hard question to solve

[Roskian Federation]

That is a hard question to solve

no its pretty fucking straight forward.

In most societies (western) societies, you won't get the death penalty for murder in the first place.

[Geneviev]

Of course, this conveniently leaves out the fact that an individual who wants to get rid of the parasite has numerous other options that look like accidents that can force a miscarriage. For example, 'falling down the stairs,' 'getting mugged,' or an 'automobile accident.' For those with determination, there are plenty of options. You might as well do the kind thing and allow abortions to all who choose to get one.

Fetuses are not parasites.

PS pro-choice peeps: calling fetuses parasites does not help my dudes.

I have to agree here. They aren't really parasites.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Why are we even talking about this? I understand that people believe that the life of an unborn child is important, but how about their mothers? How about soldiers killing people; isn't this also loss of human life?

I disagree on abortion most of the time, but in the cases when it is most needed - rape and permanently disabling defects (which harm the child if they were to be born) - I fully support it.

They should also be executed for murder.

Who?