Capital Punishment for Abortion? Yes.

[Vassenor]

Ever heard of not policing what people do with their bodies?

policing bodies is so evil let me kill my kids because i have zero responsibility

Letting people control their bodies is evil so people should only be allowed to copulate if they meet arbitrary socio-economic requirements.

[Kalmarfrihet]

Absolutely not. It's time to get out of the damn past and let women take control of their own bodies.

[Tebuh]

policing bodies is so evil let me kill my kids because i have zero responsibility

Letting people control their bodies is evil so people should only be allowed to copulate if they meet arbitrary socio-economic requirements.

A fetus is not your body.

[Vassenor]

Letting people control their bodies is evil so people should only be allowed to copulate if they meet arbitrary socio-economic requirements.

A fetus is not your body.

So in other words as soon as sperm meets egg a woman loses all right to control what is done with her body?

[Ifreann]

Letting people control their bodies is evil so people should only be allowed to copulate if they meet arbitrary socio-economic requirements.

A fetus is not your body.

It's a well known fact that foetuses gestate in cabbage patches.

[Tebuh]

A fetus is not your body.

So in other words as soon as sperm meets egg a woman loses all right to control what is done with her body?

No. I'm saying a fetus is not your body.

[Eglaecia]

A fetus is not your body.

So in other words as soon as sperm meets egg a woman loses all right to control what is done with her body?

anyone who starts off a reply with "so in other words..." or "so what you're saying is..." should just forfeit the argument and admit they can't refute the point being made. He didn't say a woman loses all right to control what is done with her body, he said that a fetus is not a woman's body.

policing bodies is so evil let me kill my kids because i have zero responsibility

Letting people control their bodies is evil so people should only be allowed to copulate if they meet arbitrary socio-economic requirements.

No, people should only be allowed to reproduce if they're able to afford it. My single mother earning less than £20k after taxes has been able to raise me and my sister since alone for the past five and a half years on a low income. You know how? Because she budgeted well. Most people think they can't afford children so they abort the baby, but the reason they can't afford it is because they spend so much on useless luxuries ie expensive clothes, games, TVs, makeup etc.

[Tebuh]

So in other words as soon as sperm meets egg a woman loses all right to control what is done with her body?

anyone who starts off a reply with "so in other words..." or "so what you're saying is..." should just forfeit the argument and admit they can't refute the point being made. He didn't say a woman loses all right to control what is done with her body, he said that a fetus is not a woman's body.

Letting people control their bodies is evil so people should only be allowed to copulate if they meet arbitrary socio-economic requirements.

No, people should only be allowed to reproduce if they're able to afford it. My single mother earning less than £20k after taxes has been able to raise me and my sister since alone for the past five and a half years on a low income. You know how? Because she budgeted well. Most people think they can't afford children so they abort the baby, but the reason they can't afford it is because they spend so much on useless luxuries ie expensive clothes, games, TVs, makeup etc.

I'm a woman.

[Alvecia]

A fetus is not your body.

It's a well known fact that foetuses gestate in cabbage patches.

My foetus plants are coming out quite nicely this year.

[Vassenor]

So in other words as soon as sperm meets egg a woman loses all right to control what is done with her body?

anyone who starts off a reply with "so in other words..." or "so what you're saying is..." should just forfeit the argument and admit they can't refute the point being made. He didn't say a woman loses all right to control what is done with her body, he said that a fetus is not a woman's body.

Letting people control their bodies is evil so people should only be allowed to copulate if they meet arbitrary socio-economic requirements.

No, people should only be allowed to reproduce if they're able to afford it. My single mother earning less than £20k after taxes has been able to raise me and my sister since alone for the past five and a half years on a low income. You know how? Because she budgeted well. Most people think they can't afford children so they abort the baby, but the reason they can't afford it is because they spend so much on useless luxuries ie expensive clothes, games, TVs, makeup etc.

Actually most women seek abortion for multiple issues, not just "I can't afford it" - only six percent sought abortion purely for that reason. 34% because the pregnancy was unexpected and they didn't consider themselves prepared.

[Tebuh]

anyone who starts off a reply with "so in other words..." or "so what you're saying is..." should just forfeit the argument and admit they can't refute the point being made. He didn't say a woman loses all right to control what is done with her body, he said that a fetus is not a woman's body.


No, people should only be allowed to reproduce if they're able to afford it. My single mother earning less than £20k after taxes has been able to raise me and my sister since alone for the past five and a half years on a low income. You know how? Because she budgeted well. Most people think they can't afford children so they abort the baby, but the reason they can't afford it is because they spend so much on useless luxuries ie expensive clothes, games, TVs, makeup etc.

Actually most women seek abortion for multiple issues, not just "I can't afford it" - only six percent sought abortion purely for that reason. 34% because the pregnancy was unexpected and they didn't consider themselves prepared.

What is contraception?
What is a condom?

[Vassenor]

Actually most women seek abortion for multiple issues, not just "I can't afford it" - only six percent sought abortion purely for that reason. 34% because the pregnancy was unexpected and they didn't consider themselves prepared.

What is contraception?
What is a condom?

Contraceptive failure is a thing.

[Tebuh]

What is contraception?
What is a condom?

Contraceptive failure is a thing.

And condoms are 98% effective.

[Vassenor]

Contraceptive failure is a thing.

And condoms are 98% effective.

Not according to the figures in that study, with at least an 18% failure rate with typical use.

[Tebuh]

And condoms are 98% effective.

Not according to the figures in that study, with at least an 18% failure rate with typical use.

I too can quote statistics.

[Monomious League of Gadgets-MLG]

I fully agree with this proposal, but it does not go far enough for my liking. For every case of abortion, three people should be added to death row. The surgeon, the woman, and the man who impregnated the woman, for it is as much his fault as it is hers that a child was to be created. Not only will this control overpopulation, but it will control the rampant spread of STDs/STIs, and instill in our citizens another healthy dose of fear. The more we control the brainless masses, the better everyone is for it.

[The Huskar Social Union]

This is fucking retarded.

[Garden at 6th Mile Road]

Bad idea. Even if abortion is deemed not okay for a number of people, I feel that we should not restrict someone from getting it, let alone to be considered a capital punishment.

I fully agree with this proposal, but it does not go far enough for my liking. For every case of abortion, three people should be added to death row. The surgeon, the woman, and the man who impregnated the woman, for it is as much his fault as it is hers that a child was to be created. Not only will this control overpopulation, but it will control the rampant spread of STDs/STIs, and instill in our citizens another healthy dose of fear. The more we control the brainless masses, the better everyone is for it.

I'm going to take that as sarcasm, or satire to the NS issues at least. No offense, but that is borderline crazy.
- Why should the surgeon get the punishment for just following it?
- The woman is not at fault for the most parts. Unless she agrees to be impregnated and had second thoughts, but even then, she should have the freedom.
- For the man, even if it is his fault, death row for impregnating someone is nuts. Maybe just ask for compensation, or at least give a light punishment.

[Vassenor]

Not according to the figures in that study, with at least an 18% failure rate with typical use.

I too can quote statistics.

I've shown you mine, so let's see your supporting evidence then.

[West Leas Oros]

I fully agree with this proposal, but it does not go far enough for my liking. For every case of abortion, three people should be added to death row. The surgeon, the woman, and the man who impregnated the woman, for it is as much his fault as it is hers that a child was to be created. Not only will this control overpopulation, but it will control the rampant spread of STDs/STIs, and instill in our citizens another healthy dose of fear. The more we control the brainless masses, the better everyone is for it.

You made this poorly written dystopia a lot more well written.

[Godular]

Okay, I am a Christian (Baptist, if we're going that far), and I am strongly pro-life. I don't know about capital punishment for abortion, but as far as I can see you guys are missing one important point: adoption.

If you are unable to take care of a baby, you should give birth to it and promptly put it up for adoption. Note that I am male and therefore have no idea what agony women go through when having babies, but the Bible says in Genesis 3:16a: "I will make your pains in childbearing very severe; with painful labor you will give birth to children." This implies that the perfect world was designed so mothers would never have labor pains. Actually, I won't continue with that; I know there are a lot of people on here that think it's their business to get triggered whenever religion comes up.

Adoption is great. Other people that are better off than you can take your baby and treat it like the one they don't have. Maybe they never could have kids or something.

Either way, I would argue that as medicine gets better, we could probably find ways to ease the pains of childbirth another way.

Got a bit of a backlog to get through before you can talk adoption... I suggest you get started.

It ain’t that we have not thought of it, simply that the idea does not resolve the damn problem.

[The Solarian States]

We are not in the 19th Century! Capital Punishment is wrong. Abortions are good though. Women need to have control of their bodies and not let the state tell them what to do with it. Also seriously?

[The Huskar Social Union]

I fully agree with this proposal, but it does not go far enough for my liking. For every case of abortion, three people should be added to death row. The surgeon, the woman, and the man who impregnated the woman, for it is as much his fault as it is hers that a child was to be created. Not only will this control overpopulation, but it will control the rampant spread of STDs/STIs, and instill in our citizens another healthy dose of fear. The more we control the brainless masses, the better everyone is for it.

Nice puppet, but who are you really?

[Alvecia]

And condoms are 98% effective.

Not according to the figures in that study, with at least an 18% failure rate with typical use.

Do the exact figures really matter? So long as it's not 100%.

[Vassenor]

Not according to the figures in that study, with at least an 18% failure rate with typical use.

Do the exact figures really matter? So long as it's not 100%.

And given that contraceptive failure is a reason why women may seek abortion...