Capital Punishment for Abortion? Yes.

[Right wing humour squad]

Well we have varying degrees of enslavement based upon how successful you are. This isn’t that much worse.

[Vassenor]

Not the worst idea I've heard of. It should only apply to those who abort for socioeconomic reasons though.

So we're punishing people for being poor now?

[The Free Joy State]

Why are certain pro-lifers in favour of things that will certainly lead to death?

Because they view unborn life as more important than life that already exists and don't believe humans should be messing with "God's Plan." His unknowable and increadibly vague "Plan" for us all...

I'm sure the Bible says that no-one can claim to know the mind of God, so I'm sure He'd like a word with all those people claiming to know what He thinks about abortion and "God's divine Plan".

Especially as abortion's not actually specifically condemned.

EDIT: For clarity, already-born person > potential person, anyway.

But I thought fundies were supposed to base their decisions on God's will. As God didn't say anything about abortion, I'm not sure how anyone could say He had an opinion without extreme hubris.

[Godular]

Capital punishment seems too extreme. Lifetime imprisonment would be a better alternative IMO for the woman. Reserve the capital punishment for the abortionists.

Still in ‘fuck that noise’ territory.

[Alvecia]

Is this the new abortion thread?

[Ifreann]

Is this the new abortion thread?

This is the new stupid thread.

[The Free Joy State]

Is this the new abortion thread?

This is the new stupid thread.

This is the "stupid idea that belongs in a lazily written dystopian novel" thread

[West Leas Oros]

Not the worst idea I've heard of. It should only apply to those who abort for socioeconomic reasons though.

So we're punishing people for being poor now?

We already were
*Murica Intensifies*

[Ifreann]

This is the new stupid thread.

This is the "stupid idea that belongs in a lazily written dystopian novel" thread

Brevity is the soul of wit.

[Eglaecia]

Why are certain pro-lifers in favour of things that will certainly lead to death?

Because they view unborn life as more important than life that already exists and don't believe humans should be messing with "God's Plan." His unknowable and increadibly vague "Plan" for us all...

We view unborn life is more important than the lives of murderers.

Not the worst idea I've heard of. It should only apply to those who abort for socioeconomic reasons though.

So we're punishing people for being poor now?

Not really. Punishing people for being irresponsible then murdering a baby.

[West Leas Oros]

This is the new stupid thread.

This is the "stupid idea that belongs in a lazily written dystopian novel" thread

In my lazily written dystopia, abortion execute you!

[The Free Joy State]

This is the "stupid idea that belongs in a lazily written dystopian novel" thread

Brevity is the soul of wit.

Clarity can sometimes aid comedy.

There are currently several threads that could be called "stupid".

[Ifreann]

Brevity is the soul of wit.

Clarity can sometimes aid comedy.

There are currently several threads that could be called "stupid".

You're not wrong.

[Vassenor]

Because they view unborn life as more important than life that already exists and don't believe humans should be messing with "God's Plan." His unknowable and increadibly vague "Plan" for us all...

We view unborn life is more important than the lives of murderers.

So we're punishing people for being poor now?

Not really. Punishing people for being irresponsible then murdering a baby.

So in what way is "I can't afford to raise this child but my contraception failed" irresponsible?

[Communist Furries]

This would only work if we brought everyone to middle class (aka socialism.) The amount of unwanted pregnancies in poor areas is crazy, and there often is not consent. Therefore, capital punishment for abortions would simply further punish the lower class.

[Kantria]

Third trimester abortions are rare and only done in the case of dire need, and a second trimester fetus is most certainly not comparable to an infant. Again, this is more about bodily autonomy, and ending the ability to kill a fetus once it is no longer in your body (and thus is not an autonomy issue) is not arbitrary at all.

This thread should have been aborted after this post.

[The Greater Low Countries]

Okay, I am a Christian (Baptist, if we're going that far), and I am strongly pro-life. I don't know about capital punishment for abortion, but as far as I can see you guys are missing one important point: adoption.

If you are unable to take care of a baby, you should give birth to it and promptly put it up for adoption. Note that I am male and therefore have no idea what agony women go through when having babies, but the Bible says in Genesis 3:16a: "I will make your pains in childbearing very severe; with painful labor you will give birth to children." This implies that the perfect world was designed so mothers would never have labor pains. Actually, I won't continue with that; I know there are a lot of people on here that think it's their business to get triggered whenever religion comes up.

Adoption is great. Other people that are better off than you can take your baby and treat it like the one they don't have. Maybe they never could have kids or something.

Either way, I would argue that as medicine gets better, we could probably find ways to ease the pains of childbirth another way.

[Hirota]

What an utterly reprehensible and sociopathic perspective in the OP.

[West Leas Oros]

This would only work if we brought everyone to middle class (aka socialism.) The amount of unwanted pregnancies in poor areas is crazy, and there often is not consent. Therefore, capital punishment for abortions would simply further punish the lower class.

Agreed in full, except that, under socialism, childcare could be easily accessible and paid for by the state, making capital punishment unnecessary when there is both welfare and healthcare that is more substantial.

[Eglaecia]

We view unborn life is more important than the lives of murderers.


Not really. Punishing people for being irresponsible then murdering a baby.

So in what way is "I can't afford to raise this child but my contraception failed" irresponsible?

ever heard of uhhhhhhhhhh ABSTINENCE

[Kyneland]

What an utterly reprehensible and sociopathic perspective in the OP.

^
I seriously cannot understand why on earth someone would advocate or propose killing someone for purging their body of something they didn’t want.
I’m Pro-Choice up until 24 weeks, which is when the unborn gains the ability to think and feel, I recall. However, despite me disapproving of aborting after that, it’s not my business nor do I want to associate with anything regarding that.

[Vassenor]

So in what way is "I can't afford to raise this child but my contraception failed" irresponsible?

ever heard of uhhhhhhhhhh ABSTINENCE

Ever heard of not policing what people do with their bodies?

[Vassenor]

Okay, I am a Christian (Baptist, if we're going that far), and I am strongly pro-life. I don't know about capital punishment for abortion, but as far as I can see you guys are missing one important point: adoption.

If you are unable to take care of a baby, you should give birth to it and promptly put it up for adoption. Note that I am male and therefore have no idea what agony women go through when having babies, but the Bible says in Genesis 3:16a: "I will make your pains in childbearing very severe; with painful labor you will give birth to children." This implies that the perfect world was designed so mothers would never have labor pains. Actually, I won't continue with that; I know there are a lot of people on here that think it's their business to get triggered whenever religion comes up.

Adoption is great. Other people that are better off than you can take your baby and treat it like the one they don't have. Maybe they never could have kids or something.

Either way, I would argue that as medicine gets better, we could probably find ways to ease the pains of childbirth another way.

Even though the adoption system in many countries is over capacity to the point where most individuals age out without getting adopted?

[Ohioan Territory]

I'm pro-life, but this is too far. Unlike a murder that is grounds for capital punishment, the intent behind abortion isn't usually malice.

[Eglaecia]

ever heard of uhhhhhhhhhh ABSTINENCE

Ever heard of not policing what people do with their bodies?

policing bodies is so evil let me kill my kids because i have zero responsibility