Hypothetical Occupation of China

[Tokora]

I've tried asking before about what the world would do with China after a war of aggression, but this time I think I have the right phrasing.

If China lost a war against India, Russia, the US, and Japan, how would the occupation go? I'm not going to say exactly how this war starts but for background let's say that the war was caused by Chinese aggression and when they started losing they used scorched earth tactics on occupied territory and attempted ethnic cleansing against perceived hostile groups. It will be hard to discuss the occupation if the entire world is a radioactive crater so let's assume this all happens after functional SDI's are invented and internationally implemented.

Would China be partitioned like Germany? Would eventually reunification be planned or would all parties agree to keep China separated? Would Japan be allowed to be part of the occupation due to lingering wwii stigma? Would Europe be involved in this war at all and would they participate in the occupation?

Personally I think that Tibet and Xinjiang would be liberated with Mongolia and India being returned the land China previously stole from them with plans for the current Taiwanese government to replace the PRC in the remaining territory. I personally doubt Japan would be allowed to participate. Not really sure about anything else though.

Before anything else I know some people might think this is a racist topic for daring to speak ill about a country that isn't Russia but I just want it to be clear that I have nothing against the Chinese people, only their government.

[Uxupox]

I've tried asking before about what the world would do with China after a war of aggression, but this time I think I have the right phrasing.

If China lost a war against India, Russia, the US, and Japan, how would the occupation go? I'm not going to say exactly how this war starts but for background let's say that the war was caused by Chinese aggression and when they started losing they used scorched earth tactics on occupied territory and attempted ethnic cleansing against perceived hostile groups. It will be hard to discuss the occupation if the entire world is a radioactive crater so let's assume this all happens after functional SDI's are invented and internationally implemented.

Would China be partitioned like Germany? Would eventually reunification be planned or would all parties agree to keep China separated? Would Japan be allowed to be part of the occupation due to lingering wwii stigma? Would Europe be involved in this war at all and would they participate in the occupation?

Personally I think that Tibet and Xinjiang would be liberated with Mongolia and India being returned the land China previously stole from them with plans for the current Taiwanese government to replace the PRC in the remaining territory. I personally doubt Japan would be allowed to participate. Not really sure about anything else though.

Before anything else I know some people might think this is a racist topic for daring to speak ill about a country that isn't Russia but I just want it to be clear that I have nothing against the Chinese people, only their government.

there would be no occupation. the chinese will cease to exist.

[Glorious Terran Empire]

They'd probably restore the Kuomintang to power in that case and the western powers would probably get some legation cities new trade rights in Chinese waters. Like you said though, some of the Chinese frontier would likely be ceded to the countries with the most historical background for it, and Tibet at the least would be returned to sovereignty. The Chinese Spratly Islands would probably be taken by the US or given to the restored Kuomintang for power projection and economic rights.

In the case that a full scale occupation would be needed:
There would be a large amount of US and Indian troops involved in an occupation, but I don't see Putin's Russia getting itself bogged down in an occupation of China while they're still worrying about their Western border being opened to NATO, though it's possible Russia would demand some ports in the Pacific. Moreover, I don't see the US ferrying that many troops across the Pacific long enough to do an East/West germany thing in this political climate. It's likely that the US's allies in the pacific would be heavily involved, and I think that any stigma towards Japan would be considered but ignored in such a case that boots on the ground are needed to maintain a presence. The worldwide power vacuum would be catastrophic for the great game in Asia and Africa, and unless India and Russia would be capable of fully exploiting that victory, it would likely be a while before US dominion in the pacific and in the world market is threatened. Plus all that foreign debt held by China magically disappearing with a declaration of war would revitalize the value of USD.

The biggest thing that would benefit the US in the case of a Kuomintang restoration, would be all those nice airbases that could strike deep into Asia where they could not previously. As well as the ability to launch an invasion of Russia from the sparse underbelly of Siberia. Really Russia gets shafted if the US wins, so it'd likely not help the US if it decided to involve itself.

[Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft]

I've tried asking before about what the world would do with China after a war of aggression, but this time I think I have the right phrasing.

If China lost a war against India, Russia, the US, and Japan, how would the occupation go? I'm not going to say exactly how this war starts but for background let's say that the war was caused by Chinese aggression and when they started losing they used scorched earth tactics on occupied territory and attempted ethnic cleansing against perceived hostile groups. It will be hard to discuss the occupation if the entire world is a radioactive crater so let's assume this all happens after functional SDI's are invented and internationally implemented.

Would China be partitioned like Germany? Would eventually reunification be planned or would all parties agree to keep China separated? Would Japan be allowed to be part of the occupation due to lingering wwii stigma? Would Europe be involved in this war at all and would they participate in the occupation?

Personally I think that Tibet and Xinjiang would be liberated with Mongolia and India being returned the land China previously stole from them with plans for the current Taiwanese government to replace the PRC in the remaining territory. I personally doubt Japan would be allowed to participate. Not really sure about anything else though.

Before anything else I know some people might think this is a racist topic for daring to speak ill about a country that isn't Russia but I just want it to be clear that I have nothing against the Chinese people, only their government.

Military occupation of China is impossible nowadays, as China and the invading nations would inevitably end up nuking the shit out of each other (hence why no direct conventional warfare occurred between NATO and the Warsaw Pact).

[Oil exporting People]

Military occupation of China is impossible nowadays, as China and the invading nations would inevitably end up nuking the shit out of each other (hence why no direct conventional warfare occurred between NATO and the Warsaw Pact).

Because during the Cold War both sides had several thousand long range weapons in addition to tens of thousands of theater weapons to use. Such is not the case with China.

[Dooom35796821595]

Military occupation of China is impossible nowadays, as China and the invading nations would inevitably end up nuking the shit out of each other (hence why no direct conventional warfare occurred between NATO and the Warsaw Pact).

Because during the Cold War both sides had several thousand long range weapons in addition to tens of thousands of theater weapons to use. Such is not the case with China.

They have 300 strategic nukes and the largest standing army on the planet. They could decimate anyone who was stupid enough to attack.

[Uxupox]

Because during the Cold War both sides had several thousand long range weapons in addition to tens of thousands of theater weapons to use. Such is not the case with China.

They have 300 strategic nukes and the largest standing army on the planet. They could decimate anyone who was stupid enough to attack.

you mean that oxidized metal called the Chinese navy? They wouldn't be able to do anything. maybe become a new type of ecosystem for the bottom of the sea.

[Soritarius]

I've tried asking before about what the world would do with China after a war of aggression, but this time I think I have the right phrasing.

If China lost a war against India, Russia, the US, and Japan, how would the occupation go? I'm not going to say exactly how this war starts but for background let's say that the war was caused by Chinese aggression and when they started losing they used scorched earth tactics on occupied territory and attempted ethnic cleansing against perceived hostile groups. It will be hard to discuss the occupation if the entire world is a radioactive crater so let's assume this all happens after functional SDI's are invented and internationally implemented.

Would China be partitioned like Germany? Would eventually reunification be planned or would all parties agree to keep China separated? Would Japan be allowed to be part of the occupation due to lingering wwii stigma? Would Europe be involved in this war at all and would they participate in the occupation?

Personally I think that Tibet and Xinjiang would be liberated with Mongolia and India being returned the land China previously stole from them with plans for the current Taiwanese government to replace the PRC in the remaining territory. I personally doubt Japan would be allowed to participate. Not really sure about anything else though.

Before anything else I know some people might think this is a racist topic for daring to speak ill about a country that isn't Russia but I just want it to be clear that I have nothing against the Chinese people, only their government.

this is one of those hypotheticals that has a ridiculous premise and concept.

[Dooom35796821595]

They have 300 strategic nukes and the largest standing army on the planet. They could decimate anyone who was stupid enough to attack.

you mean that oxidized metal called the Chinese navy? They wouldn't be able to do anything. maybe become a new type of ecosystem for the bottom of the sea.

No, an army not navy. The army is the biggest problem when attacking a homeland.

[Internationalist Bastard]

you mean that oxidized metal called the Chinese navy? They wouldn't be able to do anything. maybe become a new type of ecosystem for the bottom of the sea.

No, an army not navy. The army is the biggest problem when attacking a homeland.

Yeah and the Chinese are good at depth warfare. Think kinda like Vietnam, there’s gonna be a battle on every hill

[Uxupox]

you mean that oxidized metal called the Chinese navy? They wouldn't be able to do anything. maybe become a new type of ecosystem for the bottom of the sea.

No, an army not navy. The army is the biggest problem when attacking a homeland.

why would we need to invade? Just firebomb em.

[Internationalist Bastard]

No, an army not navy. The army is the biggest problem when attacking a homeland.

why would we need to invade? Just firebomb em.

Well other then how that’ll kill thousands of innocents compared to an invasion

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Worverines!

[Internationalist Bastard]

Worverines!

Lang Huan!

[Uxupox]

why would we need to invade? Just firebomb em.

Well other then how that’ll kill thousands of innocents compared to an invasion

no need for an occupation if there is no people left.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Well other then how that’ll kill thousands of innocents compared to an invasion

no need for an occupation if there is no people left.

Sure if genocide is ok to you

[Uxupox]

no need for an occupation if there is no people left.

Sure if genocide is ok to you

it's not but in this hypothetical scenario ruthless efficiency against the Chinese will the allied effort millions of lives that would be lost against the Chinese countryside.

[Krasny-Volny]

If the US had anything to say about it, the RoC would be restored to the mainland. Hopefully the Uyghurs and Tibet would win their independence too.

[The Biggles Syndicate]

It would probably be reverted back to a democratic government, and Tibet and several other regions could get to be independent. That's my guess. By the way, you misspelled "occupation".

[Internationalist Bastard]

Sure if genocide is ok to you

it's not but in this hypothetical scenario ruthless efficiency against the Chinese will the allied effort millions of lives that would be lost against the Chinese countryside.

Ah so the enemies civilians don’t matter
I’m gonna go

[Uxupox]

it's not but in this hypothetical scenario ruthless efficiency against the Chinese will the allied effort millions of lives that would be lost against the Chinese countryside.

Ah so the enemies civilians don’t matter
I’m gonna go

trinitite is my name, glass is my game.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Ah so the enemies civilians don’t matter
I’m gonna go

trinitite is my name, glass is my game.

Yeah, sorry I care about people, have fun being a fucking monster

[Uxupox]

trinitite is my name, glass is my game.

Yeah, sorry I care about people, have fun being a fucking monster

this is a hypothetical scenario. a comet larger than the size of this planet has a better chance of hitting us than this happening.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Yeah, sorry I care about people, have fun being a fucking monster

this is a hypothetical scenario. a comet larger than the size of this planet has a better chance of hitting us than this happening.

Don’t act like this is the only time you’ve advocated military atrocities

[Uxupox]

this is a hypothetical scenario. a comet larger than the size of this planet has a better chance of hitting us than this happening.

Don’t act like this is the only time you’ve advocated military atrocities

as long as they are compliant with the official updated version of the rules of land warfare as perceived by the United States government. all is fair game.