On The Distribution of Spouses

[Geneviev]

Arranged marriages have a 6% divorce rate.

Because the majority of arranged marriages take place in countries like India and China where traditional and religious values usually discourage divorce. That skews the percentage.

Just note that I have more than worthless anecdotes.

[Sahansahiye Iran]

Because the majority of arranged marriages take place in countries like India and China where traditional and religious values usually discourage divorce. That skews the percentage.

Just note that I have more than worthless anecdotes.

You have a source that I can't view without paying $10. Good job.

[United Muscovite Nations]

1. Incels won't be a problem anymore.
2. They usually lead to less divorce.
3. Because cultural reasons make me biased.

What cultural reasons?
Also, if people are allowed to reject their assigned spouse, incels might still be a problem.

But it would be a much smaller minority. Most of the problem is that it is difficult to meet people right off the bat, and then difficult to express romantic feelings. If other people are doing the introduction, with both people knowing the purpose behind it, it is much easier.

[Vadkness]

This disagrees with that assumption.

In that case, that is definitely an idea that should be added to this system.

Why? This proposal is centred and founded on the assumption "right to life" means "right to create more life" via sexual reproduction, which a gay couple cannot do, so such a lottery becomes useless for this goal. So including it just makes this dystopian society even more of a gross violation of human rights.

On top of that, your point about how a bisexual would have to choose? That goes against the entire idea of bisexual and many bi people would be very unhappy with the idea that you are asking them to "pick a side" (which is a biphobic comment we've heard enough).

Not to mention how if aces could opt out, you get literally the entire population declaring themselves ace, about 5 people still in, and then people going about their merry lives dating, sleeping with each other and moving in with each other to raise families. The only difference is they can't get married now. So the government spends a ton of money on a poor dating service no-one will use.

[Geneviev]

In that case, that is definitely an idea that should be added to this system.

Why? This proposal is centred and founded on the assumption "right to life" means "right to create more life" via sexual reproduction, which a gay couple cannot do, so such a lottery becomes useless for this goal. So including it just makes this dystopian society even more of a gross violation of human rights.

On top of that, your point about how a bisexual would have to choose? That goes against the entire idea of bisexual and many bi people would be very unhappy with the idea that you are asking them to "pick a side" (which is a biphobic comment we've heard enough).

Not to mention how if aces could opt out, you get literally the entire population declaring themselves ace, about 5 people still in, and then people going about their merry lives dating, sleeping with each other and moving in with each other to raise families. The only difference is they can't get married now. So the government spends a ton of money on a poor dating service no-one will use.

It is founded on the assumption that it will reduce violent crime, something I agree with. As I have said before, I disagree with making a lottery.

I am truly sorry if that came across as biphobic. It was definitely not my intent.

Here's my idea of a better substitute for a lottery:

Here's a better idea than a lottery system that won't sound like the plot of a generic dystopian novel:

People may apply to have the government assign them a partner, who they can reject if they would like to. People will also be taught that arranged marriages are a good thing in order to prevent confusion about arranged marriages being the same as forced marriages. Arranged marriages should be encouraged.

[Katganistan]

If you can't get a mate on your own, why should we appoint one to you? So your poor little feelings don't get hurt? Fuck that noise. Buck up and compete. If you fail to get a partner, tough shit. Life is full of losers in all areas. Sublimate your failure into success in another endeavor, like art. Don't bitch and moan about your inadequacy and don't demand that the world reshape itself to make you successful.

Yeah fuck people whose lives are bad.

I've always wanted to be rich enough to have a nice house, nice things, and the occasional vacation. No one is providing me an inheritance nor giving me a few million to play with, though. Whatever I have, I have to work for.

It's pretty much the same situation.

[Uxupox]

Yeah fuck people whose lives are bad.

I've always wanted to be rich enough to have a nice house, nice things, and the occasional vacation. No one is providing me an inheritance nor giving me a few million to play with, though. Whatever I have, I have to work for.

It's pretty much the same situation.

are you sure? you might find some nigerian prince relative has recently departed the world and his (yours) immediate family would possibly like to share it with you.

[Katganistan]

Here's a better idea than a lottery system that won't sound like the plot of a generic dystopian novel:

People may apply to have the government assign them a partner, who they can reject if they would like to. People will also be taught that arranged marriages are a good thing in order to prevent confusion about arranged marriages being the same as forced marriages. Arranged marriages should be encouraged.

No.
What of people who don't want to marry at all?
And why should people be taught arranged marriages are good, any more that love matches or even non-love matches that people arrange for themselves?

[Katganistan]

I don't think I've ever met anyone in an arranged marriage.

That would be where culture is involved.

So if it's alien to the culture you're suggesting it for, why would you expect it to be anything save an abject failure?

[Geneviev]

Here's a better idea than a lottery system that won't sound like the plot of a generic dystopian novel:

People may apply to have the government assign them a partner, who they can reject if they would like to. People will also be taught that arranged marriages are a good thing in order to prevent confusion about arranged marriages being the same as forced marriages. Arranged marriages should be encouraged.

No.
What of people who don't want to marry at all?
And why should people be taught arranged marriages are good, any more that love matches or even non-love matches that people arrange for themselves?

People who don't want to marry don't have to marry, or apply for the lottery.

People should be taught that in order to make them more accepting of arranged marriages.

That would be where culture is involved.

So if it's alien to the culture you're suggesting it for, why would you expect it to be anything save an abject failure?

In those cultures, they still have the choice to continue as they would prefer.

[Katganistan]

I've always wanted to be rich enough to have a nice house, nice things, and the occasional vacation. No one is providing me an inheritance nor giving me a few million to play with, though. Whatever I have, I have to work for.

It's pretty much the same situation.

are you sure? you might find some nigerian prince relative has recently departed the world and his (yours) immediate family would possibly like to share it with you.

Oh, let me hand over my bank account number immediately!



Point is, I COULD do more to get more money. I could work night school as well. I could tutor on weekends. I could teach *shudder* summer school.

I choose not to. So expecting to be handed a Victorian on millionaire's row is not a sensible expectation.

I live within my means, instead.

[Galloism]

are you sure? you might find some nigerian prince relative has recently departed the world and his (yours) immediate family would possibly like to share it with you.

Oh, let me hand over my bank account number immediately!



Point is, I COULD do more to get more money. I could work night school as well. I could tutor on weekends. I could teach *shudder* summer school.

I choose not to. So expecting to be handed a Victorian on millionaire's row is not a sensible expectation.

I live within my means, instead.

I learned in another thread that trying to live within your means is laziness.

It was on NSG, it must be true.

[Katganistan]

Oh, let me hand over my bank account number immediately!



Point is, I COULD do more to get more money. I could work night school as well. I could tutor on weekends. I could teach *shudder* summer school.

I choose not to. So expecting to be handed a Victorian on millionaire's row is not a sensible expectation.

I live within my means, instead.

I learned in another thread that trying to live within your means is laziness.

It was on NSG, it must be true.

Then I'm lazy. I don't condemn the whole of society for not being able to own a jet though.

[New Emeline]

So if it's alien to the culture you're suggesting it for, why would you expect it to be anything save an abject failure?

In those cultures, they still have the choice to continue as they would prefer.

They should, but unfortunately that's not always the case.

[Nordengrund]

What if I’m asexual and happy with being single?

[New Emeline]

What if I’m asexual and happy with being single?

Sucks for you I guess?
It's a very flawed plan.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Yeah fuck people whose lives are bad.

I've always wanted to be rich enough to have a nice house, nice things, and the occasional vacation. No one is providing me an inheritance nor giving me a few million to play with, though. Whatever I have, I have to work for.

It's pretty much the same situation.

Again, there's this lazy assumption that people who fail aren't working for it. It's the same assumption libertarians make about welfare recipients.

[Matthewstownville]

Environmentalists disagree.

And read the other point about extramarital affairs.

So what if extramarital affairs become the norm? That would only double the fun!

Amen!!

[Ethel mermania]

Yeah fuck people whose lives are bad.

I've always wanted to be rich enough to have a nice house, nice things, and the occasional vacation. No one is providing me an inheritance nor giving me a few million to play with, though. Whatever I have, I have to work for.

It's pretty much the same situation.

pretty much this ^

you dont have a partner and want one, its on you, not someone else.

[Ethel mermania]

I've always wanted to be rich enough to have a nice house, nice things, and the occasional vacation. No one is providing me an inheritance nor giving me a few million to play with, though. Whatever I have, I have to work for.

It's pretty much the same situation.

Again, there's this lazy assumption that people who fail aren't working for it. It's the same assumption libertarians make about welfare recipients.

most of the folks who i see taking this position are not trying to make themselves attractive to others, but are whining "i should be loved for who i am". that is a load of crap. End of the day you get what you deserve.

also there are a lot of fat ugly people out there looking for love, lower your standards.

[The Blaatschapen]

Again, there's this lazy assumption that people who fail aren't working for it. It's the same assumption libertarians make about welfare recipients.

most of the folks who i see taking this position are not trying to make themselves attractive to others, but are whining "i should be loved for who i am". that is a load of crap. End of the day you get what you deserve.

also there are a lot of fat ugly people out there looking for love, lower your standards.

Sorry, you're not my type

[Hurdergaryp]

most of the folks who i see taking this position are not trying to make themselves attractive to others, but are whining "i should be loved for who i am". that is a load of crap. End of the day you get what you deserve.

also there are a lot of fat ugly people out there looking for love, lower your standards.

Sorry, you're not my type

Despite those magnificent legs?

[United Muscovite Nations]

Again, there's this lazy assumption that people who fail aren't working for it. It's the same assumption libertarians make about welfare recipients.

most of the folks who i see taking this position are not trying to make themselves attractive to others, but are whining "i should be loved for who i am". that is a load of crap. End of the day you get what you deserve.

also there are a lot of fat ugly people out there looking for love, lower your standards.

There are threads all over forums talking about how going to the gym doesn't work because they've tried it.

[Ethel mermania]

most of the folks who i see taking this position are not trying to make themselves attractive to others, but are whining "i should be loved for who i am". that is a load of crap. End of the day you get what you deserve.

also there are a lot of fat ugly people out there looking for love, lower your standards.

There are threads all over forums talking about how going to the gym doesn't work because they've tried it.

eharmony, singles groups, take a cooking class, take a museum tour, work a political campaign, million things to do to meet people.

[United Muscovite Nations]

There are threads all over forums talking about how going to the gym doesn't work because they've tried it.

eharmony, singles groups, take a cooking class, take a museum tour, work a political campaign, million things to do to meet people.

I used EHaromony and Christian Mingle for 3 years, I didn't get a single message back.

What if you don't live in an area where a cooking class is offered, where there are no museums, and political campaigns aren't common?

Also, isn't it a little shallow to do those things solely in the hope of meeting someone? And, even if you do do it, there is not guarantee you will meet people.