On The Distribution of Spouses

[The Free Joy State]

Ah, other women may. Takes too long.

And, why ruin the alliteration? Now, the murder of a good piece of alliteration, that would be the real crime.

Menstruation takes too long? Doesn't it take about a period?

And I did not know you were a woman, I'll remember that.

Takes too long to say "womenstruation", cheeky.

Product exists: Twilight.

Naw, I want actual lottery scenes. Preferably with some super over the top TV show host declaring people married for life.

"The Real Newlyweds of [Insert Place Here]": Last week on Real Newlyweds, Charlotte, a book-loving banking executive from London, was dismayed when she was paired with Steve, a book-burning down-and-out from Paris. Let's see how they got on...

[A m e n r i a]

You have the right ideas, just terrible ways of trying. As if arranged marriages aren't bad enough, now you're trying to pair people up based on lottery? No, arranged marriages do not, have not, and will not serve society well. If anything, that's a big problem in our society. Fundamentalists say parental approval is required for marriage. What if God chose someone else to be a person's spouse, instead of the one his/her parents have chosen? You'll get an unhappy marriage, rife with heartaches, maybe even domestic abuse, and you'll end up divorcing your spouse anyways and running away to the person that's supposed to marry you, not the person your parents chose. Now, getting people married based on pure luck? That's an even worse idea. Marriage is about the heart. Abandon its cries and you'll never get the right spouse. Ever.

[Ifreann]

Product exists: Twilight.

Naw, I want actual lottery scenes. Preferably with some super over the top TV show host declaring people married for life.

"I volunteer as waifu!"

[The Blaatschapen]

Menstruation takes too long? Doesn't it take about a period?

And I did not know you were a woman, I'll remember that.

Takes too long to say "womenstruation", cheeky.

Naw, I want actual lottery scenes. Preferably with some super over the top TV show host declaring people married for life.

"The Real Newlyweds of [Insert Place Here]": Last week on Real Newlyweds, Charlotte, a book-loving banking executive from London, was dismayed when she was paired with Steve, a book-burning down-and-out from Paris. Let's see how they got on...

Woah! We do international marriages too?

Oh hell no. I could end up marrying an American

[The Free Joy State]

"The Real Newlyweds of [Insert Place Here]": Last week on Real Newlyweds, Charlotte, a book-loving banking executive from London, was dismayed when she was paired with Steve, a book-burning down-and-out from Paris. Let's see how they got on...

Woah! We do international marriages too?

Oh hell no. I could end up marrying an American

Hey, if you end up married to an American, you could always live in separate countries, never see each other and never have sex.

It kinda defeats the OP's point, but at least you'd be married *nods*

[The Blaatschapen]

Woah! We do international marriages too?

Oh hell no. I could end up marrying an American

Hey, if you end up married to an American, you could always live in separate countries, never see each other and never have sex.

It kinda defeats the OP's point, but at least you'd be married *nods*

I have that arrangement already with lots of people.

Except for the marriage part.

[Saiwania]

unless we have extreme rates of taxation on the rich or move to a different type of economy, the elderly will starve or the working-age population will stop bothering

at current trends, basically everyone born in the 2020s+ will be assigned a retired person born before 2000 whose job will be to take financial care of them. sounds nice, i guess, until they revolt.

I don't quite understand why the elderly outnumbering the working age population is such a problem. Sure, there will be a massive population decrease and potentially an economic contraction, but it'd be back to equilibrium again within a few generations. Why exactly, do most old people need Social Security (outside of what they paid into that system) when presumably, it was on them to save for their own retirement whilst they were working?

Old people already have most of the money anyways statistically speaking. They have a 401K, they have an IRA, they could sell their house and etc. It might only be a problem for the minority of people who never got good jobs ever or made too little income throughout their lifespan. But most elderly people who're too poor are taken care of by extended family or simply tossed into a nursing home until they die.

[New Neruda]

This would be a good idea if you want the majority of the population ending up in shitty marriages.

In any case, I could see a private company doing this as a sort if alternative to dating sites, I guess. But the government has no place in this, at all.


Also,


seize the means of reproduction

[Internationalist Bastard]

Nothing I love more then people who advocate that we should remove love from the equation of marriage

[Internationalist Bastard]

This would be a good idea if you want the majority of the population ending up in shitty marriages.

In any case, I could see a private company doing this as a sort if alternative to dating sites, I guess. But the government has no place in this, at all.


Also,


seize the means of reproduction

Is be fine if it was a private thing you sign up for

[Len Hyet]

I was pondering on the right to life when an idea popped into my mind. The right to life is among the most important, if not the most important right, we have as human beings - it is among the highest of all natural rights. But life is not just our current lives, but our children are continuations of our lives and just as we are the continuation of the lives of our ancestors. Marriage is the optimum way in which new life is created.

Governments are also supposed to enforce rights and not let them fall into neglect. Unfortunately, as can be seen with the likes of incels and even worse, MGTOW community, this right to life has been neglected. So what is to be done by the government in such a case? The distribution of spouses.

I propose that each heterosexual person be placed into a lottery system - both male and female. Once the person is called up, they are to be paired with the other person drawn from the lottery alongside them. They are then to be man and wife, preferably for the rest of their lives. It is not too drastic of a change from arranged marriages, which have served humanity well. This would ensure that every person has a spouse and thus better further ones chances of continuing their lives than our current courtship system does. Further, the lottery system would help ensure that the rich are less able to bribe their way into being pared with high quality mates - the poor should not be punished and I consider myself to be a friend of the poor.

This system would further reduce crime, as women calm men's darkest tendencies, and improve the economy through reduced crime, increased happiness, and a far more stable labor force that is self-replicating (as natalist policies should naturally be enacted in any system, not just this one).

Agree or Disagree?

Well I won't say it's the worst idea I've ever seen on this forum, but only because there are literal genocide-endorsing white nationalists lurking about.

[Sovaal]

No.

Down with the authoritarians!

[United Muscovite Nations]

A lottery system would be much dumber than arranged marriages because arranged marriages have a logic behind them in terms of who is party to them.

[Trumptonium1]

unless we have extreme rates of taxation on the rich or move to a different type of economy, the elderly will starve or the working-age population will stop bothering

at current trends, basically everyone born in the 2020s+ will be assigned a retired person born before 2000 whose job will be to take financial care of them. sounds nice, i guess, until they revolt.

I don't quite understand why the elderly outnumbering the working age population is such a problem.

because it is financially completely unsustainable. like, completely. it's not even possible to imagine. the only probable things is 80 year olds going for the scraps like washing cars for people to survive.

Sure, there will be a massive population decrease

there wouldn't, at least not in the medium term

and potentially an economic contraction, but it'd be back to equilibrium again within a few generations.

for what reason?

a society with below replacement level fertility will always be below replacement level. unless you're arguing that somehow, for whatever reason, fertility rates will rise once more die.

Why exactly, do most old people need Social Security (outside of what they paid into that system) when presumably, it was on them to save for their own retirement whilst they were working?

well that's a different argument

[Pope Joan]

Marriage is by consent of two individuals, period.

Neither government nor church need be involved.

[Chan Island]

Terrible idea, but if you write this dystopia into a novel I'd happily read it.

Yup, same here. I do love reading dystopian literature and am always on the look out for some. This would be a delightfully horrifying universe.

Product exists: Twilight.

Naw, I want actual lottery scenes. Preferably with some super over the top TV show host declaring people married for life.

Now you're talking! At this rate maybe I'll write it.

[Saiwania]

because it is financially completely unsustainable. like, completely. it's not even possible to imagine. the only probable things is 80 year olds going for the scraps like washing cars for people to survive.

Like I said, it is financially sustainable if the old people have to rely on their retirement savings. Elders were young during decades when it was much easier to obtain a good job or qualify for one. So presumably they have old money stashed in the bank that they've got from savings or investments acquired from decades of working.

Elders should sell their house or cash in their 401K or IRA accounts and etc. before they ever have to rely on something like Social Security. They're only really screwed if they were too much of a low earner or were generally unsuccessful in life. But screw them. Baby boomers are the ones responsible for neo-liberalism and globalization and giving today's young people such a hard time about "not earning as much" as they did when they were their age.

It is high time that the current generations working now are able to say to them "screw you, its your fault if you never saved enough. I'm focused on my own retirement and present needs. There is no room to provide for you any."

[Ithreland]

The only thing that should determine the distribution of spouses is genetic disorders (nonmandatorily). Allow me to explain: On Bones, Hodgins and Angela got pregnant, and were very happy until they realized they were both carriers for a genetic disorder, which gave their son a 25% chance of being blind. I don't like those odds for anyone.

I'm not suggesting a mandatory "don't marry this person because your children will have X problem", but holding off on marriage until a genetic test can be run seems like a good idea. You're willing to tie your life to another person's - what's a few weeks? (I'm not sure how long these things take, and am basing it off of timelines mentioned in YouTube videos of services like Ancestry or 23 & Me.)

LGBT+(asexual inclusive) couples bring up a similar point; this sort of testing would be also good idea for sperm/egg banks. You're going to be making a person; what's a few weeks? "Hey, just warning you, this otherwise perfect-per-your-specifications specimen and you will endanger your child. May we suggest other options?"

[Risottia]

arranged marriages, which have served humanity well.

So much fail in so few words. I'm astonished.

[Ethel mermania]

folks who want a spouse but can't figure out how to attract and keep one, don t deserve one.

[The Holy Therns]

folks who want a spouse but can't figure out how to attract and keep one, don t deserve one.

But if they apply within twenty eight days they can get a charming carriage clock.

[Ifreann]

folks who want a spouse but can't figure out how to attract and keep one, don t deserve one.

But if they apply within twenty eight days they can get a charming carriage clock.

Peace in Europe!

[The Blaatschapen]

folks who want a spouse but can't figure out how to attract and keep one, don t deserve one.

I am sometimes at a complete loss of how certain people attracted one in the first place.

[Ethel mermania]

folks who want a spouse but can't figure out how to attract and keep one, don t deserve one.

I am sometimes at a complete loss of how certain people attracted one in the first place.

Sometimes luck is more important than skill.

[Ethel mermania]

folks who want a spouse but can't figure out how to attract and keep one, don t deserve one.

But if they apply within twenty eight days they can get a charming carriage clock.

If I call right now can I get 2?