Religion and the LGBTQ community.

[Des-Bal]

A primary attribute of Christianity is being monotheistic. Mormonism is polytheistic.

Yes and saints, mary, the pope, etc. violate that all important principle so the brand of christian I am not is fake.

[United Muscovite Nations]

A primary attribute of Christianity is being monotheistic. Mormonism is polytheistic.

Yes and saints, mary, the pope, etc. violate that all important principle so the brand of christian I am not is fake.

Saints aren't gods, and neither is the Theotokos or the Pope.

[Geneviev]

Christians should know a lot of things. Yet I don't see you eating honey very much (Proverbs 24) or teaching submission (Colossians 3).

Darling, I’m actually Big into Honey, Especially Locally sorced! And Why should I Teach Submission? People are Born Beautiful the way they are!~

It's in the Bible. That's why.

And yes, "Eat honey, my son, for it is good; honey from the comb is sweet to the taste." Underrated Bible verse.

[Des-Bal]

Saints aren't gods, and neither is the Theotokos or the Pope.

So says you idolator.

[The Ozark Frontier]

Darling, I’m actually Big into Honey, Especially Locally sorced! And Why should I Teach Submission? People are Born Beautiful the way they are!~

It's in the Bible. That's why.

And yes, "Eat honey, my son, for it is good; honey from the comb is sweet to the taste." Underrated Bible verse.

Just because it is in the Bible does not mean that Such Commands can’t Change as ducted by God. For instance, Leviticus was Primarily Used as the Laws Regarding the Nation of Israel. Not many Christians actully Circumcise to be Marked as a Child of Israel, Instead we now Baptise. Though I think this might change from Denomination to Denomination.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Saints aren't gods, and neither is the Theotokos or the Pope.

So says you idolator.

I think it's pretty obvious, especially since the theology takes great care to not allow worship of them, or to consider them gods. Saints are just people in Heaven, and the Theotokos is the Ark of the Covenant.

[Halmund]

As a Mormon, I agree with everything but that last line. I don’t recall learning God being a man once. I learned that God created man.

“My first object is to find out the character of the only wise and true God, and what kind of a being He is. …

“God Himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens! That is the great secret. If the veil were rent today, and the great God who holds this world in its orbit, and who upholds all worlds and all things by His power, was to make Himself visible,—I say, if you were to see Him today, you would see Him like a man in form—like yourselves in all the person, image, and very form as a man; for Adam was created in the very fashion, image and likeness of God, and received instruction from, and walked, talked and conversed with Him, as one man talks and communes with another. …

“… Having a knowledge of God, we begin to know how to approach Him, and how to ask so as to receive an answer. When we understand the character of God, and know how to come to Him, He begins to unfold the heavens to us, and to tell us all about it. When we are ready to come to Him, He is ready to come to us.”9

https://www.lds.org/manual/teachings-jo ... g=eng&_r=1

Perhaps you have a different perspective on how to read that, as I read it to be a description of man’s understanding of God as opposed to saying God was once man. We still believe in the book of Genesis. The same as any other Christian. While yes, The Godgead is in purpose as one, they are not believed to be one being. We believe God created Man in his image, so indeed we believe he looks like us, and we believe we can become like Gods. Again, this is my understanding, and I’m not devout but I certainly show up to church weekly.

[Geneviev]

It's in the Bible. That's why.

And yes, "Eat honey, my son, for it is good; honey from the comb is sweet to the taste." Underrated Bible verse.

Just because it is in the Bible does not mean that Such Commands can’t Change as ducted by God. For instance, Leviticus was Primarily Used as the Laws Regarding the Nation of Israel. Not many Christians actully Circumcise to be Marked as a Child of Israel, Instead we now Baptise. Though I think this might change from Denomination to Denomination.

It is in the Bible, though. In the New Testament, even. So there's nothing to replace that anyways.

[Reikoku]

Mormonism teaches that God was originally a man, and that there are countless Gods just like him, and that man can eventually become the same as God. It also teaches that, rather than the Holy Father and Holy Son being the same essence, Jesus is simply one of many sons of Jehovah with one of his many wives. These beliefs reject almost all of the essential elements of Christianity.

Yikes. I think you don’t understand Mormonism like you think you do.

Apparently Joseph Smith doesn't either.

God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens! That is the great secret. If the veil were rent today, and the great God who holds this world in its orbit, and who upholds all worlds and all things by His power, was to make himself visible—I say, if you were to see him today, you would see him like a man in form—like yourselves in all the person, image, and very form as a man; for Adam was created in the very fashion, image and likeness of God, and received instruction from, and walked, talked and conversed with Him, as one man talks and communes with another.

[Halmund]

Just what I was thinking.

A primary attribute of Christianity is being monotheistic. Mormonism is polytheistic.

I’m sorry, but no, that is false.

[Des-Bal]

I think it's pretty obvious, especially since the theology takes great care to not allow worship of them, or to consider them gods. Saints are just people in Heaven, and the Theotokos is the Ark of the Covenant.

You think it's obvious because you're a heathen who doesn't drink my brand of kool-aid.

[United Muscovite Nations]

https://www.lds.org/manual/teachings-jo ... g=eng&_r=1

Perhaps you have a different perspective on how to read that, as I read it to be a description of man’s understanding of God as opposed to saying God was once man. We still believe in the book of Genesis. The same as any other Christian. While yes, The Godgead is in purpose as one, they are not believed to be one being. We believe God created Man in his image, so indeed we believe he looks like us, and we believe we can become like Gods. Again, this is my understanding, and I’m not devout but I certainly show up to church weekly.

Saying that God is an exalted man is saying that he was once a man.

[Geneviev]

Yikes. I think you don’t understand Mormonism like you think you do.

Apparently Joseph Smith doesn't either.

God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens! That is the great secret. If the veil were rent today, and the great God who holds this world in its orbit, and who upholds all worlds and all things by His power, was to make himself visible—I say, if you were to see him today, you would see him like a man in form—like yourselves in all the person, image, and very form as a man; for Adam was created in the very fashion, image and likeness of God, and received instruction from, and walked, talked and conversed with Him, as one man talks and communes with another.

God was once like a man. Yes. No Christians should disagree with that. That's what Jesus did.

[United Muscovite Nations]

A primary attribute of Christianity is being monotheistic. Mormonism is polytheistic.

I’m sorry, but no, that is false.

So the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are of one essence and undivided?

[Halmund]

Yikes. I think you don’t understand Mormonism like you think you do.

Apparently Joseph Smith doesn't either.

God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens! That is the great secret. If the veil were rent today, and the great God who holds this world in its orbit, and who upholds all worlds and all things by His power, was to make himself visible—I say, if you were to see him today, you would see him like a man in form—like yourselves in all the person, image, and very form as a man; for Adam was created in the very fashion, image and likeness of God, and received instruction from, and walked, talked and conversed with Him, as one man talks and communes with another.

You might look up the story of Korihor, you’d be able to draw a lot of parallels to yourself. I’m no Alma, but I can see your intent.

This was a description of God’s likeness to man, as opposed to saying he is man.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Apparently Joseph Smith doesn't either.

God was once like a man. Yes. No Christians should disagree with that. That's what Jesus did.

Christ was God incarnate as a man, the God-Man. God was not a man prior to the incarnation.

[Geneviev]

God was once like a man. Yes. No Christians should disagree with that. That's what Jesus did.

Christ was God incarnate as a man, the God-Man. God was not a man prior to the incarnation.

And no one said that, anywhere.

[The Ozark Frontier]

I think it's pretty obvious, especially since the theology takes great care to not allow worship of them, or to consider them gods. Saints are just people in Heaven, and the Theotokos is the Ark of the Covenant.

You think it's obvious because you're a heathen who doesn't drink my brand of kool-aid.

I get the impression that you are trying to Prove a Point... Do you want to talk about it, Friend to Friend?~

[United Muscovite Nations]

Christ was God incarnate as a man, the God-Man. God was not a man prior to the incarnation.

And no one said that, anywhere.

That is what is said in that passage from Joseph Smith.

[Halmund]

I’m sorry, but no, that is false.

So the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are of one essence and undivided?

No, but last I checked, I don’t worship the Holy Ghost. I don’t pray to the Holy Ghost. My prayer goes, “Out dear, kind, gracious Heavenly Father... *insert prayer here*.

It does not go “our dear kind gracious Holy Ghost.”

[United Muscovite Nations]

So the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are of one essence and undivided?

No, but last I checked, I don’t worship the Holy Ghost. I don’t pray to the Holy Ghost. My prayer goes, “Out dear, kind, gracious Heavenly Father... *insert prayer here*.

It does not go “our dear kind gracious Holy Ghost.”

If you don't accept the Holy Spirit as being one with the Godhead, I cannot consider you a Christian in good faith.

[Des-Bal]

I get the impression that you are trying to Prove a Point... Do you want to talk about it, Friend to Friend?~

My point is "they're not with us" is a consistently hollow thing to say.

[Geneviev]

And no one said that, anywhere.

That is what is said in that passage from Joseph Smith.

No, that is not what it said. God was once like us does not mean God was a person who became God to then proceed to become a person again to save people to then become God again. It means God was God and then became a person to save people and then went back to heaven.

[The Ozark Frontier]

I get the impression that you are trying to Prove a Point... Do you want to talk about it, Friend to Friend?~

My point is "they're not with us" is a consistently hollow thing to say.

Awe, Don’t worry! We are all Sinners in the End, No one person is better than Another, and no one person is worse than another in God’s eyes.~

[United Muscovite Nations]

That is what is said in that passage from Joseph Smith.

No, that is not what it said. God was once like us does not mean God was a person who became God to then proceed to become a person again to save people to then become God again. It means God was God and then became a person to save people and then went back to heaven.

Then why does he say that God is an exalted man, rather than God who took on a human nature, which is the correct way to word the incarnation.