Religion and the LGBTQ community.

[United Muscovite Nations]

There's also Christians groups that say the same things. Wow, it's almost like you're just biased and want to throw a fit about Christianity.

No, really? Why on earth would I think Christians hate me? It's almost like I've actually been attacked for who I am...

And many LGBT people in Muslim-majority countries are attacked for who they are. You're trivializing their experiences by implying that it had nothing to do with homophobia in the Muslim religion.

[Kaiserreich irl]

There's also Christians groups that say the same things. Wow, it's almost like you're just biased and want to throw a fit about Christianity.

No, really? Why on earth would I think Christians hate me? It's almost like I've actually been attacked for who I am...

Because you are negative to Christians.

[Washington Resistance Army]

There's also Christians groups that say the same things. Wow, it's almost like you're just biased and want to throw a fit about Christianity.

No, really? Why on earth would I think Christians hate me? It's almost like I've actually been attacked for who I am...

That won't change in Islam. You've had everyone from ex-Muslims to neopagans to Christians to atheists telling you about this. You just refuse to accept it and cling to a few anecdotes and feelgood websites you found.

[The Black Forrest]

There's also Christians groups that say the same things. Wow, it's almost like you're just biased and want to throw a fit about Christianity.

No, really? Why on earth would I think Christians hate me? It's almost like I've actually been attacked for who I am...

Again I used to work with a couple gay Muslims who had to flee their countries because they were going to be killed.

It's not a question of who is better or worse; they are both wrong. The fact the US doesn't have executions for being gay is mainly because we are not a theocracy (yet....).

[Kaiserreich irl]

No, really? Why on earth would I think Christians hate me? It's almost like I've actually been attacked for who I am...

Because you are negative to Christians.

Just don't be negative torwards their group and they shouldn't worry about you. If they do it is their problem not yours.

[The Ozark Frontier]

Its also a problem with the religion, since it's in the Quran.

If a Christian government (which, as far as I know, don't exist anymore) would do the same, Christianity were just as much to blame.

Christian Governments Don’t exist because Christianity IS The Government. And technically If we were to Kill Homosexuals, Every Christian Would have to Die. Jesus said, “Let he who is without Sin Cast the First Stone” Christianity is a Church of Sinners, it is only natural to be Brotherly with other Sinners, but Still try our best to not be tempted to Sin. Those who are Diffrent from me, I have always held Contempt for. Because They are unique, they are Beautiful, they are Sinners just as I am, and thus, I love them. I Pity any Christian who openly despises Those diffrent from them.

[The Parkus Empire]

No, really? Why on earth would I think Christians hate me? It's almost like I've actually been attacked for who I am...

Again I used to work with a couple gay Muslims who had to flee their countries because they were going to be killed.

It's not a question of who is better or worse; they are both wrong. The fact the US doesn't have executions for being gay is mainly because we are not a theocracy (yet....).

What's a theocracy?

[The Ozark Frontier]

There's also Christians groups that say the same things. Wow, it's almost like you're just biased and want to throw a fit about Christianity.

No, really? Why on earth would I think Christians hate me? It's almost like I've actually been attacked for who I am...

I Don’t hate you~ Infact I think you are Beautiful the way you are. Made so unique by the Skillful hands of God~

[Kaiserreich irl]

Again I used to work with a couple gay Muslims who had to flee their countries because they were going to be killed.

It's not a question of who is better or worse; they are both wrong. The fact the US doesn't have executions for being gay is mainly because we are not a theocracy (yet....).

What's a theocracy?

A government in which religious authority rules the nation.

[Geneviev]

For Geneviev:

I think that you should get a little more experience with the world before making big judgement calls like that.

I don't want any more experience, thank you. Being alive seems more pleasant.

Most of what you know about Islam seems to come from the conversation you had on the Islamic Discussion Thread, and before you make a call on converting to a religion, you should really check with multiple sources from various countries about what that religion believes, because, and this isn't an attack on you, when a young, somewhat naive Westerner comes up to a religious person saying they are LGBT and they want to know what their religion says about LGBT people, generally we're not going to go on a rant about everything scripture says about it.

Actually, no, my information comes from more than people on a forum. I know it seems difficult to believe. And it wasn't all conversations as a young, somewhat naive Westerner.

A lot of people want to get converts or their beliefs aren't representative of what their religion says. The latter is probably what you encountered in the IDT because it's overrepresentative of Muslims living in Western countries than it is of the general Muslim population, of which the vast majority lives in the Middle East & North Africa, Sub-Saharan Africa, or Southeast Asia. As such, to get a good idea of what Muslims think, you should seek out sources from those countries, and the answers you would get are much different than the ones you would get from Muslims living in culturally Western countries such as the United States or Germany.

Again, more than the IDT. And I have done more research than just sitting around and making assumptions based on what I think people should maybe think.

[United Muscovite Nations]

For Geneviev:

I think that you should get a little more experience with the world before making big judgement calls like that.

I don't want any more experience, thank you. Being alive seems more pleasant.

Most of what you know about Islam seems to come from the conversation you had on the Islamic Discussion Thread, and before you make a call on converting to a religion, you should really check with multiple sources from various countries about what that religion believes, because, and this isn't an attack on you, when a young, somewhat naive Westerner comes up to a religious person saying they are LGBT and they want to know what their religion says about LGBT people, generally we're not going to go on a rant about everything scripture says about it.

Actually, no, my information comes from more than people on a forum. I know it seems difficult to believe. And it wasn't all conversations as a young, somewhat naive Westerner.

A lot of people want to get converts or their beliefs aren't representative of what their religion says. The latter is probably what you encountered in the IDT because it's overrepresentative of Muslims living in Western countries than it is of the general Muslim population, of which the vast majority lives in the Middle East & North Africa, Sub-Saharan Africa, or Southeast Asia. As such, to get a good idea of what Muslims think, you should seek out sources from those countries, and the answers you would get are much different than the ones you would get from Muslims living in culturally Western countries such as the United States or Germany.

Again, more than the IDT. And I have done more research than just sitting around and making assumptions based on what I think people should maybe think.

And I've shown you data showing that over 80% of Muslims worldwide think that Homosexuality is morally wrong, yet you still deny it's a thing with the religion.

[The Parkus Empire]

What's a theocracy?

A government in which religious authority rules the nation.

Most of our leaders are religious

[The Black Forrest]

Again I used to work with a couple gay Muslims who had to flee their countries because they were going to be killed.

It's not a question of who is better or worse; they are both wrong. The fact the US doesn't have executions for being gay is mainly because we are not a theocracy (yet....).

What's a theocracy?

The person who likes to name drop William Blackstone probably knows.

[The Ozark Frontier]

A government in which religious authority rules the nation.

Most of our leaders are religious

No, it’s like the Pope.

[Kaiserreich irl]

A government in which religious authority rules the nation.

Most of our leaders are religious

No I mean like Caliphs,Popes, and Priests,Actual Religious Authority.

[Geneviev]

No, really? Why on earth would I think Christians hate me? It's almost like I've actually been attacked for who I am...

Because you are negative to Christians.

Not Christians, Christianity. There's a difference.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Because you are negative to Christians.

Not Christians, Christianity. There's a difference.

Yet you won't apply the same logic to Islam. Why?

[Kaiserreich irl]

Because you are negative to Christians.

Not Christians, Christianity. There's a difference.

There is a difference, but the same homophobic part of Christianity also applies to the majority of Islam. Except with more violence.

[United Muscovite Nations]

In a 2016 ICM poll of 1,081 British Muslims, 52% of those polled disagreed with the statement 'Homosexuality should be legal in Britain' compared with 11% of the control group; 18% agreed compared with 73% of the control group. In the same poll, 56% of British Muslims polled disagreed with the statement 'Gay marriage should be legal in Britain' compared with 20% of the control group and 47% disagreed with the statement 'It is acceptable for a homosexual person to be a teacher in a school' compared with 14% of the control group.[187]

For Geneviev

[Geneviev]

Not Christians, Christianity. There's a difference.

Yet you won't apply the same logic to Islam. Why?

1. Personal reasons.
2. Because I have reason to believe Islam is just more accepting.

[The Parkus Empire]

Most of our leaders are religious

No I mean like Caliphs,Popes, and Priests,Actual Religious Authority.

Not seeing how rule by priests is possible in a Protestant nation

[Kaiserreich irl]

No I mean like Caliphs,Popes, and Priests,Actual Religious Authority.

Not seeing how rule by priests is possible in a Protestant nation

There are a lot of Catholics in America.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Yet you won't apply the same logic to Islam. Why?

1. Personal reasons.
2. Because I have reason to believe Islam is just more accepting.

Your reasons are, objectively, wrong. Muslim groups who are separated by thousands of miles carry out the same punishments for homosexuality.

To go back to another point of yours, where in the New Testament does it even say that gays should be stoned?

[The Parkus Empire]

What's a theocracy?

The person who likes to name drop William Blackstone probably knows.

I know the left uses it like the right uses "communism"

[The Parkus Empire]

Not seeing how rule by priests is possible in a Protestant nation

There are a lot of Catholics in America.

That is certainly true and deeply troubling