Religion and the LGBTQ community.

[Kaiserreich irl]

That is more than religion, though. There is a cultural aspect in that region.

So, when Christians are homophobic, it's the religion, but when Muslims are homophobic, it's just the culture?

[Washington Resistance Army]

That is more than religion, though. There is a cultural aspect in that region.

So, when Christians are homophobic, it's the religion, but when Muslims are homophobic, it's just the culture?

Essentially. Geneviev is amazingly biased against Christianity and refuses to accept anything is wrong with Islam, even if you quote old Islamic scripture and writings saying things like LGBT's should be whipped or killed.

[Geneviev]

So, when Christians are homophobic, it's the religion, but when Muslims are homophobic, it's just the culture?

Essentially. Geneviev is amazingly biased against Christianity and refuses to accept anything is wrong with Islam, even if you quote old Islamic scripture and writings saying things like LGBT's should be whipped or killed.

No, I simply say that Christians are worse. Stoning is objectively worse.

However, I do take that first bit as a compliment. Thank you.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Essentially. Geneviev is amazingly biased against Christianity and refuses to accept anything is wrong with Islam, even if you quote old Islamic scripture and writings saying things like LGBT's should be whipped or killed.

No, I simply say that Christians are worse. Stoning is objectively worse.

Muslim governments are the only ones on the planet that still kill people for being gay.

[Geneviev]

No, I simply say that Christians are worse. Stoning is objectively worse.

Muslim governments are the only ones on the planet that still kill people for being gay.

And that is a problem with the governments.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Muslim governments are the only ones on the planet that still kill people for being gay.

And that is a problem with the governments.

Those governments stretch from northern Nigeria all the way to Brunei. It's a religious issue, not cultural.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Essentially. Geneviev is amazingly biased against Christianity and refuses to accept anything is wrong with Islam, even if you quote old Islamic scripture and writings saying things like LGBT's should be whipped or killed.

No, I simply say that Christians are worse. Stoning is objectively worse.

However, I do take that first bit as a compliment. Thank you.

Name 1 Christian group that has put any homosexual to death in the past 10 years.

[The Ozark Frontier]

Essentially. Geneviev is amazingly biased against Christianity and refuses to accept anything is wrong with Islam, even if you quote old Islamic scripture and writings saying things like LGBT's should be whipped or killed.

No, I simply say that Christians are worse. Stoning is objectively worse.

However, I do take that first bit as a compliment. Thank you.

Awe Thats a Shame you think that. But you see friend, that’s not true. A Truly Radical Christian is More-likely to Give his Home away to a homeless person, Or give support to those diffrent than them. A True, Radical Christian would never hurt a Fly. Jesus said to Love your Neighbor as yourself. And I am quite sad to say that there are not many Religions that have the same Peaceful Belifs. Islam is one of them...

[Reikoku]

Muslim governments are the only ones on the planet that still kill people for being gay.

And that is a problem with the governments.

Its also a problem with the religion, since it's in the Quran.

[Huntpublic]

That is more than religion, though. There is a cultural aspect in that region.

So, when Christians are homophobic, it's the religion, but when Muslims are homophobic, it's just the culture?

Considering the being homophobic is showing a dislike or prejudice towards people who are gay, I won't call everyone who is part of a culture or religion homophobic unless it tells you to be homophobic towards people who are gay.

I'm not sure I can speak for other Christians, because everyone is different. I personally, don't care whether someone is gay or not. I'm inclined to treat everyone with the respect that they deserve. Treat everyone with kindness, after all, that's what Jesus did, and as Christians, you strive to convey Jesus through your actions and hating on someone just because they have sinned.

Being homosexual is a sin in Christianity, it is sexual immorality and unnatural as stated in the Bible. I would continue to treat everyone with respect even they are a homosexual or on the sexual 'spectrum'. Though I can't say that I support that LGBTQ stuff.

[The Black Forrest]

Essentially. Geneviev is amazingly biased against Christianity and refuses to accept anything is wrong with Islam, even if you quote old Islamic scripture and writings saying things like LGBT's should be whipped or killed.

No, I simply say that Christians are worse. Stoning is objectively worse.

However, I do take that first bit as a compliment. Thank you.

Wahhabbis have used fines, floggings, life in prison, torture and execution.

[Martian Alliance]

There are many religions that are homophobic and transphobic towards members of the LGBTQ community saying that 'it's not god's will.' to them I say, 'was it's god's will for you to be hateful towards a large section of the human race?' God doesn't hate anyone, that's like, his thing.
I think that it's horrible that some people are so hateful.
what are your thoughts on this?

Well ultimately people get to decide who their God is. I think in the Bible it's abundantly clear that's it against homosexuality but I would hope most Christians could overlook that and act decently toward other people. After all, Christianity was able to ditch the burning "witches" thing ("A man or woman who is a spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads." Leviticus 20:27) and most Christians are okay with interracial marriage ("Now honor the Lord, the God of your ancestors and do his will. Seperate yourselves from the peopels around you and from your foreign wives." Ezra 10:11). Even if people are religious, they should at least be able to question parts of the Bible, acknowledging that it wasn't actually written by God, but by people claiming to be inspired by God. And the God in the Bible certainly does hate groups of people, coinciding with the same groups the Israelites were opposed to because Yeshua was their God.

[NewLakotah]

Muslim governments are the only ones on the planet that still kill people for being gay.

And that is a problem with the governments.

Which are Islamic... Most who do such things follow the strict religious laws. It stretches beyond simply the Middle East as well.

[Reikoku]

No, I simply say that Christians are worse. Stoning is objectively worse.

However, I do take that first bit as a compliment. Thank you.

Awe Thats a Shame you think that. But you see friend, that’s not true. A Truly Radical Christian is More-likely to Give his Home away to a homeless person, Or give support to those diffrent than them. A True, Radical Christian would never hurt a Fly. Jesus said to Love your Neighbor as yourself. And I am quite sad to say that there are not many Religions that have the same Peaceful Belifs. Islam is one of them...

Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism, Confucianism, and those are just the world religions. Most of the teachings of Jesus aren't original, or all that peaceful and generous in comparison to other faiths.

[Geneviev]

And that is a problem with the governments.

Its also a problem with the religion, since it's in the Quran.

Here's a better explanation than I could give.

[The Black Forrest]

No, I simply say that Christians are worse. Stoning is objectively worse.

However, I do take that first bit as a compliment. Thank you.

Name 1 Christian group that has put any homosexual to death in the past 10 years.

You are being disingenuous by asking for a group ordered punishment.

There have been many violent acts (known versus what is not reported).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_o ... ted_States

[The Ozark Frontier]

Awe Thats a Shame you think that. But you see friend, that’s not true. A Truly Radical Christian is More-likely to Give his Home away to a homeless person, Or give support to those diffrent than them. A True, Radical Christian would never hurt a Fly. Jesus said to Love your Neighbor as yourself. And I am quite sad to say that there are not many Religions that have the same Peaceful Belifs. Islam is one of them...

Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism, Confucianism, and those are just the world religions. Most of the teachings of Jesus aren't original, or all that peaceful and generous in comparison to other faiths.

Yeah,I suppose so, but speaking in Majority? Those are Rather small. Don’t get me wrong, I think they are Attractive~

[Huntpublic]

Name 1 Christian group that has put any homosexual to death in the past 10 years.

You are being disingenuous by suggesting a group.

There have been many violent acts (known versus what is not reported).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_o ... ted_States

Murder is bad, and the fact that all of these people have been killed just because of what they are(or believe in) is sad.

[Geneviev]

And that is a problem with the governments.

Its also a problem with the religion, since it's in the Quran.

If a Christian government (which, as far as I know, don't exist anymore) would do the same, Christianity were just as much to blame.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Its also a problem with the religion, since it's in the Quran.

Here's a better explanation than I could give.

There's also Christians groups that say the same things. Wow, it's almost like you're just biased and want to throw a fit about Christianity.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Name 1 Christian group that has put any homosexual to death in the past 10 years.

You are being disingenuous by suggesting a group.

There have been many violent acts (known versus what is not reported).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_o ... ted_States

Yes, but it is not organized violence by religious organizations such as churches. While many Muslim groups including governments put homosexuals to death.

For Geneviev:

I think that you should get a little more experience with the world before making big judgement calls like that. Most of what you know about Islam seems to come from the conversation you had on the Islamic Discussion Thread, and before you make a call on converting to a religion, you should really check with multiple sources from various countries about what that religion believes, because, and this isn't an attack on you, when a young, somewhat naive Westerner comes up to a religious person saying they are LGBT and they want to know what their religion says about LGBT people, generally we're not going to go on a rant about everything scripture says about it. A lot of people want to get converts or their beliefs aren't representative of what their religion says. The latter is probably what you encountered in the IDT because it's overrepresentative of Muslims living in Western countries than it is of the general Muslim population, of which the vast majority lives in the Middle East & North Africa, Sub-Saharan Africa, or Southeast Asia. As such, to get a good idea of what Muslims think, you should seek out sources from those countries, and the answers you would get are much different than the ones you would get from Muslims living in culturally Western countries such as the United States or Germany.

[NewLakotah]

Awe Thats a Shame you think that. But you see friend, that’s not true. A Truly Radical Christian is More-likely to Give his Home away to a homeless person, Or give support to those diffrent than them. A True, Radical Christian would never hurt a Fly. Jesus said to Love your Neighbor as yourself. And I am quite sad to say that there are not many Religions that have the same Peaceful Belifs. Islam is one of them...

Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism, Confucianism, and those are just the world religions. Most of the teachings of Jesus aren't original, or all that peaceful and generous in comparison to other faiths.

But you can find violence in all of them. There have been very violent things done in the name of Buddhism and Hinduism. Acts of terrorism and oppression to name a few. Why? Because humanity is inherently flawed and fallen. Its not just about what religion they follow or do not. Even a truly "peaceful" religion can be manipulated to be used as an instrument of violence and control by the wrong people. Christianity is littered with it, I as a Christian can admit that. However, Islam has clearly had a very long history of violence and domination, but even Hinduism and Sikhism and Buddhism have run into major problems with violence.

[The Black Forrest]

You are being disingenuous by suggesting a group.

There have been many violent acts (known versus what is not reported).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_o ... ted_States

Yes, but it is not organized violence by religious organizations such as churches.

How many of them boot people for violent acts against the LGBT?

[Geneviev]

Here's a better explanation than I could give.

There's also Christians groups that say the same things. Wow, it's almost like you're just biased and want to throw a fit about Christianity.

No, really? Why on earth would I think Christians hate me? It's almost like I've actually been attacked for who I am...

[United Muscovite Nations]

Yes, but it is not organized violence by religious organizations such as churches.

How many of them boot people for violent acts against the LGBT?

Most churches don't boot people for any acts of violence. Theoretically someone who murders someone for any reason can just confess to his priest and be fine.