Religion and the LGBTQ community.

[The Parkus Empire]

I didn't say they seek to eradicate it totally, just to purge it from the public sphere.

But that’s still entirely untrue. There’s really nothing in it for lgbtq+ people to get rid of religion. It’s the religious that actually preach extermination of lgbtq+ people.

Certainly, they want it out of schools and out of politics.

[Infernia]

But that’s still entirely untrue. There’s really nothing in it for lgbtq+ people to get rid of religion. It’s the religious that actually preach extermination of lgbtq+ people.

Certainly, they want it out of schools and out of politics.

That’s because religion has no place in education or administration.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

But that’s still entirely untrue. There’s really nothing in it for lgbtq+ people to get rid of religion. It’s the religious that actually preach extermination of lgbtq+ people.

Certainly, they want it out of schools and out of politics.

Parkus, religion shouldn't be in politics, same as politics shouldn't be in religion. We want a separation of church and state because we have learned from history that we can't have one interfering with the other when it comes to countries.

[Dylar]

Nein. I personally enjoy sharing my beliefs among my friends and co-workers outside of church

I grew up in a society that stated that we do not share our religious beliefs or political inclinations with those we do not know. That's why I believe matters of faith should stay in church. And not everyone you meet enjoys you talking about your beliefs with them. But that's how you operate, it's your right, so that's on you.

Do you oppose the LGBTQ community from getting equal protections under law? If the answer is no, then carry on.

Well, what really happens is that I tell some of my co-workers that I want to be a Catholic priest whenever we get onto a discussion about our future careers. And that's when they ask me questions about the faith. But I feel that faith should be spread outside of church. After all, the purpose of religion is to gather as many followers as possible to worship deities. And they can't really grow if all their material is kept inside the church and not spread out to anyone else.

No. Actually, I'm kinda neutral on the LGBTQ community. Of course, I adhere to the Church's teachings which is that homosexual acts are sins. And that I'm called to treat LGBTQ people with the same amount of dignity as anyone else. Only thing I have against the community is when members of the LGBTQ community start attacking the Church for obvious reasons.

[The Parkus Empire]

Certainly, they want it out of schools and out of politics.

Parkus, religion shouldn't be in politics, same as politics shouldn't be in religion. We want a separation of church and state because we have learned from history that we can't have one interfering with the other when it comes to countries.

Well I don't want homosexuality in schools or politics.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I grew up in a society that stated that we do not share our religious beliefs or political inclinations with those we do not know. That's why I believe matters of faith should stay in church. And not everyone you meet enjoys you talking about your beliefs with them. But that's how you operate, it's your right, so that's on you.

Do you oppose the LGBTQ community from getting equal protections under law? If the answer is no, then carry on.

Well, what really happens is that I tell some of my co-workers that I want to be a Catholic priest whenever we get onto a discussion about our future careers. And that's when they ask me questions about the faith. But I feel that faith should be spread outside of church. After all, the purpose of religion is to gather as many followers as possible to worship deities. And they can't really grow if all their material is kept inside the church and not spread out to anyone else.

No. Actually, I'm kinda neutral on the LGBTQ community. Of course, I adhere to the Church's teachings which is that homosexual acts are sins. And that I'm called to treat LGBTQ people with the same amount of dignity as anyone else. Only thing I have against the community is when members of the LGBTQ community start attacking the Church for obvious reasons.

And that's the crux of the matter. In trying to eclipse them from the public (not saying you do that), many Christians aren't treating them with dignity. And in essence, that's all we ask. To be treated with dignity. You don't have to approve, but you don't have to be a dick about it (again, not calling you a dick- just a general statement).

[Sovaal]

Parkus, religion shouldn't be in politics, same as politics shouldn't be in religion. We want a separation of church and state because we have learned from history that we can't have one interfering with the other when it comes to countries.

Well I don't want homosexuality in schools or politics.

Tbh sexuality shouldn’t really be in either.

[The Parkus Empire]

Certainly, they want it out of schools and out of politics.

That’s because religion has no place in education or administration.

Ah, but your ideology and values do?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Parkus, religion shouldn't be in politics, same as politics shouldn't be in religion. We want a separation of church and state because we have learned from history that we can't have one interfering with the other when it comes to countries.

Well I don't want homosexuality in schools or politics.

Why? Is it hard to treat gay people with respect? You don't have to approve, but you shouldn't oppose them having their rights respected.

[The Parkus Empire]

Well I don't want homosexuality in schools or politics.

Why? Is it hard to treat gay people with respect? You don't have to approve, but you shouldn't oppose them having their rights respected.

The same reason you don't want Christianity in them.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Why? Is it hard to treat gay people with respect? You don't have to approve, but you shouldn't oppose them having their rights respected.

The same reason you don't want Christianity in them.

Christianity, religion in general, as well as sexuality should be a home and/or church thing. All gay people ask is to be treated with dignity. That's not hard or a forcing of their lives on anyone. It's not ok to bully a child for being religious, but the same applies to a child who is gay. It's not ok to bully them.

[Dylar]

Oh really? I want proof that shows that major religions seek to exterminate the LGBT people

If not the ridiculous speeches of the former senator Louie Gohmert

Southern Baptist. Not a major religion/major denomination of Christianity.

, any sermon under pastor Steven Anderson

Fundamentalist Independent Baptist church. Definitely not a major denomination.

and Leviticus 20:13

See, Leviticus 20:13, if you look at it are 2 laws. One part of the law is a Moral Law. The other part is a Judicial Law. The Moral Law is, obviously, "men lying with men is an abomination." The Judicial Law is, you guessed it, stoning to death. Christians only follow the Moral Laws of the Old Testament because the Ceremonial Laws(eating pork, wearing certain fabrics) and the Judicial Laws(stonings, burnings) were fulfilled by Christ's coming. While the Moral Laws are still in effect.

[Infernia]

That’s because religion has no place in education or administration.

Ah, but your ideology and values do?

Not when they are all but proven to be untrue or based on fairytales. Likewise, ideologies don’t give themselves clauses that say they are the best, or that disagreers are demon possessed.

The lgbtq+ community, or anyone, believing in the separation of church and state does not inheritly mean they live religiously by their ideals.

[The Parkus Empire]

The same reason you don't want Christianity in them.

Christianity, religion in general, as well as sexuality should be a home and/or church thing. All gay people ask is to be treated with dignity. That's not hard or a forcing of their lives on anyone. It's not ok to bully a child for being religious, but the same applies to a child who is gay. It's not ok to bully them.

I'm certainly not advocating picking on queers. I am talking about teaching about homosexuality in schools, or making laws pertaining to its recognition in matrimony etc.

[Dylar]

Well, what really happens is that I tell some of my co-workers that I want to be a Catholic priest whenever we get onto a discussion about our future careers. And that's when they ask me questions about the faith. But I feel that faith should be spread outside of church. After all, the purpose of religion is to gather as many followers as possible to worship deities. And they can't really grow if all their material is kept inside the church and not spread out to anyone else.

No. Actually, I'm kinda neutral on the LGBTQ community. Of course, I adhere to the Church's teachings which is that homosexual acts are sins. And that I'm called to treat LGBTQ people with the same amount of dignity as anyone else. Only thing I have against the community is when members of the LGBTQ community start attacking the Church for obvious reasons.

And that's the crux of the matter. In trying to eclipse them from the public (not saying you do that), many Christians aren't treating them with dignity. And in essence, that's all we ask. To be treated with dignity. You don't have to approve, but you don't have to be a dick about it (again, not calling you a dick- just a general statement).

Luckily you got some ammunition to throw at them if they happen to be Catholic

2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.

2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Christianity, religion in general, as well as sexuality should be a home and/or church thing. All gay people ask is to be treated with dignity. That's not hard or a forcing of their lives on anyone. It's not ok to bully a child for being religious, but the same applies to a child who is gay. It's not ok to bully them.

I'm certainly not advocating picking on queers. I am talking about teaching about homosexuality in schools, or making laws pertaining to its recognition in matrimony etc.

Why not? Saying that homosexuality shouldn't be a subject of bullying in schools is not bad. Likewise, no one is forcing churches to marry gay couples. But there's no reason to bar them from having a civil union. That affords them equal protections under law. This doesn't affect your belief system in any way.

[The Parkus Empire]

Ah, but your ideology and values do?

Not when they are all but proven to be untrue or based on fairytales. Likewise, ideologies don’t give themselves clauses that say they are the best, or that disagreers are demon possessed.

The lgbtq+ community, or anyone, believing in the separation of church and state does not inheritly mean they live religiously by their ideals.

I don't think you're demon possessed, I just think you want to censor God from politics and school.

[The Parkus Empire]

I'm certainly not advocating picking on queers. I am talking about teaching about homosexuality in schools, or making laws pertaining to its recognition in matrimony etc.

Why not? Saying that homosexuality shouldn't be a subject of bullying in schools is not bad. Likewise, no one is forcing churches to marry gay couples. But there's no reason to bar them from having a civil union. That affords them equal protections under law. This doesn't affect your belief system in any way.

No one should be bullied in schools.

If gays are entitled to civil unions, why not threesomes?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Not when they are all but proven to be untrue or based on fairytales. Likewise, ideologies don’t give themselves clauses that say they are the best, or that disagreers are demon possessed.

The lgbtq+ community, or anyone, believing in the separation of church and state does not inheritly mean they live religiously by their ideals.

I don't think you're demon possessed, I just think you want to censor God from politics and school.

God can be part of the curriculum in Catholic and other religious schools. But that's not necessary in public schools.

[Dylar]

I don't think you're demon possessed, I just think you want to censor God from politics and school.

God can be part of the curriculum in Catholic and other religious schools. But that's not necessary in public schools.

Not even comparative religions class?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

God can be part of the curriculum in Catholic and other religious schools. But that's not necessary in public schools.

Not even comparative religions class?

Are those part of the curriculum or in a history class? Because if it's about prayer, religious kids can pray silently.

[The Parkus Empire]

I don't think you're demon possessed, I just think you want to censor God from politics and school.

God can be part of the curriculum in Catholic and other religious schools. But that's not necessary in public schools.

It is if the community is Catholic

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

God can be part of the curriculum in Catholic and other religious schools. But that's not necessary in public schools.

It is if the community is Catholic

Usually those kids are sent to Catholic school. *shrug*

[The Parkus Empire]

It is if the community is Catholic

Usually those kids are sent to Catholic school. *shrug*

Correct. Protestant communities are far more common, so Catholic minorities historically used private schools

[Firaxin]

God can be part of the curriculum in Catholic and other religious schools. But that's not necessary in public schools.

It is if the community is Catholic

Public institutions are not owned by the community for the community, they are owned by the state for the people. There is also likely a minority who may not be Catholic, and may not need to learn about it.