Religion and the LGBTQ community.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

As I'm reading this, this case didn't strike down silent prayer. Kids can still pray silently in school.

They can, because how can you even be sure? But allotting them time for it is banned

Apparently that's not the case, especially if they're on their lunch periods.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

That could disrupt other classes so I don't see why that should be allowed. Especially when in many schools, changes of class are not done simultaneously. Besides, praying silently is more genuine than this tendency to bible thump loudly and screamingly in public. Not even God enjoys such displays.

David danced naked in the street

Yea, too bad many Christians are hypocrites and would rather pray loud while condemning their neighbor than pray silently and hold their tongue in judgement.

[Dylar]

How 'bout teaching kids to just not bully at all?

I can see where you are coming from, but what if somebody thinks it is okay to bully LGBT kids because they are immoral or something?

And then just teach em comprehensive sex ed. No need to put homosexuality in there, as CSE would've covered that bit even when talking about straight relationships.

Well, in theory, one could apply lessons about sexually transmitted disease and consent which focus on straight relationships to same-sex ones as well, but in reality, it seems like many teenagers are not that smart. For example, there are people who thought, maybe people who still think that they cannot get AIDS from heterosexual sex.

Then punish them according to what was prescribed in the student handbook. Whether it be just a verbal warning or a little trip to the Dean's Office.

Well, I'd like to think that today's teenage students have gotten smarter than those from the 80's. Especially since we(my schools) taught them in 7th grade all the different ways one could get AIDS. Along with the heartbreaking documentary of Ryan White.

[The Parkus Empire]

They can, because how can you even be sure? But allotting them time for it is banned

Apparently that's not the case, especially if they're on their lunch periods.

The law struck down was one giving teachers the option.

[The Parkus Empire]

David danced naked in the street

Yea, too bad many Christians are hypocrites and would rather pray loud while condemning their neighbor than pray silently and hold their tongue in judgement.

They obviously have to if praying aloud is censored but gay pride is put on a loudpeaker.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Apparently that's not the case, especially if they're on their lunch periods.

The law struck down was one giving teachers the option.

You said silent prayer was struck down. So you either don't know how to write, or you were trying to disingenuously argue that the supreme court said prayer in school is bad.

I will let you choose your rope.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Apparently that's not the case, especially if they're on their lunch periods.

The law struck down was one giving teachers the option.

That's not what you said. You said Wallace vs Jeffree banned silent prayer from schools. The thing is, kids can still do so.

[The Parkus Empire]

The law struck down was one giving teachers the option.

That's not what you said. You said Wallace vs Jeffree banned silent prayer from schools. The thing is, kids can still do so.

*yawn* Well it would be kind of hard to stop them, wouldn't it? How could you even prove they did? The fact is they banned giving them a period of silence before class to do it.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

As I'm reading this, this case didn't strike down silent prayer. Kids can still pray silently in school.

They can, because how can you even be sure? But allotting them time for it is banned

No, again, laws making it so are banned, teachers and schools can still implement moments of silence if they want to, but they cannot force the kids to participate either if the kids don't want to.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

That's not what you said. You said Wallace vs Jeffree banned silent prayer from schools. The thing is, kids can still do so.

*yawn* Well it would be kind of hard to stop them, wouldn't it? How could you even prove they did? The fact is they banned giving them a period of silence before class to do it.

If you're going to use a source, at least make sure it truly backs your claim.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

That's not what you said. You said Wallace vs Jeffree banned silent prayer from schools. The thing is, kids can still do so.

*yawn* Well it would be kind of hard to stop them, wouldn't it? How could you even prove they did? The fact is they banned giving them a period of silence before class to do it.

The law struck down was one giving teachers the option.

You said silent prayer was struck down. So you either don't know how to write, or you were trying to disingenuously argue that the supreme court said prayer in school is bad.

I will let you choose your rope.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

That's not what you said. You said Wallace vs Jeffree banned silent prayer from schools. The thing is, kids can still do so.

*yawn* Well it would be kind of hard to stop them, wouldn't it? How could you even prove they did? The fact is they banned giving them a period of silence before class to do it.

They didn't.

They just banned passing laws allowing such a thing, but they haven't banned it.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

*yawn* Well it would be kind of hard to stop them, wouldn't it? How could you even prove they did? The fact is they banned giving them a period of silence before class to do it.

If you're going to use a source, at least make sure it truly backs your claim.

It's also ridiculously dumb to argue this point Parkus is trying to argue, considering I still went to a school that allowed moments of silence/prayer back in 2007.

[The Parkus Empire]

They can, because how can you even be sure? But allotting them time for it is banned

No, again, laws making it so are banned, teachers and schools can still implement moments of silence if they want to, but they cannot force the kids to participate either if the kids don't want to.

The law in question only gave teachers the option. It did not force kids to pray, neither did the teachers. It just was about a minute of *silence* "for prayer or meditation'". You didn't have to pray. But your side is so petty that a minute of silence must be stamped out.

[Conserative Morality]

That could disrupt other classes so I don't see why that should be allowed. Especially when in many schools, changes of class are not done simultaneously. Besides, praying silently is more genuine than this tendency to bible thump loudly and screamingly in public. Not even God enjoys such displays.

David danced naked in the street

David also sent a guy out to die so he could fuck his wife.

[Dylar]

*yawn* Well it would be kind of hard to stop them, wouldn't it? How could you even prove they did? The fact is they banned giving them a period of silence before class to do it.

They didn't.

They just banned passing laws allowing such a thing, but they haven't banned it.

Well, I have noticed that the "moment of silence" before the Pledge has gotten shorter in previous years. Like it only lasts five seconds, kind of short. Not saying that they banned it, but, it does feel like an attempt to reduce even silent prayer in public schools. iirc, wasn't the moment of silence originally supposed to be long enough to say an "Our Father?"

[The Parkus Empire]

*yawn* Well it would be kind of hard to stop them, wouldn't it? How could you even prove they did? The fact is they banned giving them a period of silence before class to do it.

If you're going to use a source, at least make sure it truly backs your claim.

An Alabama law authorized teachers to set aside one minute at the start of each day for a moment for "meditation or voluntary prayer." [2]

[Soldati Senza Confini]

No, again, laws making it so are banned, teachers and schools can still implement moments of silence if they want to, but they cannot force the kids to participate either if the kids don't want to.

The law in question only gave teachers the option. It did not force kids to pray, neither did the teachers. It just was about a minute of *silence* "for prayer or meditation'". You didn't have to pray. But your side is so petty that a minute of silence must be stamped out.

But you had to remain standing up regardless of the moment, and it was law that you could do it.

Again, the law was deemed unconstitutional, not the teacher doing it. Teachers are still doing that today at schools.

I know you probably don't remember your good ol' days in high school. I still do.

[Conserative Morality]

They didn't.

They just banned passing laws allowing such a thing, but they haven't banned it.

Well, I have noticed that the "moment of silence" before the Pledge has gotten shorter in previous years. Like it only lasts five seconds, kind of short. Not saying that they banned it, but, it does feel like an attempt to reduce even silent prayer in public schools. iirc, wasn't the moment of silence originally supposed to be long enough to say an "Our Father?"

You don't have to say the pledge. As your holy book says, you can only serve one master, so you can choose every morning which prayer you say.

[NewLakotah]

If you're going to use a source, at least make sure it truly backs your claim.

It's also ridiculously dumb to argue this point Parkus is trying to argue, considering I still went to a school that allowed moments of silence/prayer back in 2007.

From when I graduated high school, in 2014, moments of silence before class was not allowed, praying at any time was not allowed, except in private or special occasions. For example the school I went to had a flagpole prayer thing, and it caused a minor uproar. But since my school was a charter school, apparently it wasnt beholden to all the rules that Public schools were, since several public schools in my area banned those, despite them taking place long before the school day actually began.

[The Parkus Empire]

*yawn* Well it would be kind of hard to stop them, wouldn't it? How could you even prove they did? The fact is they banned giving them a period of silence before class to do it.

They didn't.

They just banned passing laws allowing such a thing, but they haven't banned it.

They just banned allowing it?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

They didn't.

They just banned passing laws allowing such a thing, but they haven't banned it.

Well, I have noticed that the "moment of silence" before the Pledge has gotten shorter in previous years. Like it only lasts five seconds, kind of short. Not saying that they banned it, but, it does feel like an attempt to reduce even silent prayer in public schools. iirc, wasn't the moment of silence originally supposed to be long enough to say an "Our Father?"

When I was going to school that used to be the case, yea.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

If you're going to use a source, at least make sure it truly backs your claim.

An Alabama law authorized teachers to set aside one minute at the start of each day for a moment for "meditation or voluntary prayer." [2]

See, but that's not what you said when first mentioned. You said the court struck it down, and yet, what it did was take it away from teachers. The students can still pray themselves, just not out loud.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

They didn't.

They just banned passing laws allowing such a thing, but they haven't banned it.

They just banned allowing it?

They banned passing laws.

[The Parkus Empire]

See, but that's not what you said when first mentioned. You said the court struck it down, and yet, what it did was take it away from teachers. The students can still pray themselves, just not out loud.

Yeah, a bit hard to prevent or prove silent prayer, but it takes away moments of silence before class to do it