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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:40 pm

Hertisy wrote:Actually, a lot of religious texts say that a man who has been intimate with another man is sinful, at least major religions.

Besides possibly the abrahamic religions what other religions hold that a man being intimate with another man to b sinful? Also there are religions that find it just fine. Look at certain versions of Satanism.
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Postby Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol » Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:45 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Hertisy wrote:Actually, a lot of religious texts say that a man who has been intimate with another man is sinful, at least major religions.

Besides possibly the abrahamic religions what other religions hold that a man being intimate with another man to b sinful? Also there are religions that find it just fine. Look at certain versions of Satanism.


You just gave more than half the Christians on this thread a coronary with that suggestion. I’m going to bet a dollar that the ones that do research statanism, they’re going to find out and be shocked that most self-identify don’t actually worship Satan and are atheistic in their belief in God or the Devil.
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Postby Militant Costco » Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:48 pm

Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Besides possibly the abrahamic religions what other religions hold that a man being intimate with another man to b sinful? Also there are religions that find it just fine. Look at certain versions of Satanism.


You just gave more than half the Christians on this thread a coronary with that suggestion. I’m going to bet a dollar that the ones that do research statanism, they’re going to find out and be shocked that most self-identify don’t actually worship Satan and are atheistic in their belief in God or the Devil.

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Postby Godular » Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:49 pm

Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Besides possibly the abrahamic religions what other religions hold that a man being intimate with another man to b sinful? Also there are religions that find it just fine. Look at certain versions of Satanism.


You just gave more than half the Christians on this thread a coronary with that suggestion. I’m going to bet a dollar that the ones that do research statanism, they’re going to find out and be shocked that most self-identify don’t actually worship Satan and are atheistic in their belief in God or the Devil.


I think we have a few on the board that are exactly like that.
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:02 pm

Godular wrote:
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You just gave more than half the Christians on this thread a coronary with that suggestion. I’m going to bet a dollar that the ones that do research statanism, they’re going to find out and be shocked that most self-identify don’t actually worship Satan and are atheistic in their belief in God or the Devil.


I think we have a few on the board that are exactly like that.

We do.
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Postby Auze » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:04 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Hertisy wrote:Actually, a lot of religious texts say that a man who has been intimate with another man is sinful, at least major religions.

Besides possibly the abrahamic religions what other religions hold that a man being intimate with another man to b sinful? Also there are religions that find it just fine. Look at certain versions of Satanism.

Zoroastrianism is mostly against; Buddhism, Sikhism, and Hinduism all have mixed opinions of homosexuality.
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:09 pm

Auze wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Besides possibly the abrahamic religions what other religions hold that a man being intimate with another man to b sinful? Also there are religions that find it just fine. Look at certain versions of Satanism.

Zoroastrianism is mostly against; Buddhism, Sikhism, and Hinduism all have mixed opinions of homosexuality.

Zoroastrianism is pretty similar to the other abrahamic religions, hardly a surprise considering it had massive influences on Judaism so that is hardly a surprise. And as you mentioned the other have mixed opinions on it. Also for those others, does the concept of sin even exist, let alone that the act is sinful (Karma and sin are not...quit the same thing).
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Postby Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:09 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
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I think we have a few on the board that are exactly like that.

We do.


Most of the general population knows nothing about satanism. Shit, I only know about it because I’m a theology nerd.
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Postby El Hamidah » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:11 pm

Auze wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Besides possibly the abrahamic religions what other religions hold that a man being intimate with another man to b sinful? Also there are religions that find it just fine. Look at certain versions of Satanism.

Zoroastrianism is mostly against; Buddhism, Sikhism, and Hinduism all have mixed opinions of homosexuality.

It should be noted that there's nothing in those religions scriptures against homosexuality.

Hinduism it can be argued is implicitly against homosexuality, as you can't be a Grihastha without marrying a girl. But there have been perfectly orthodox Hindus that accept homosexuality or were gay themselves.
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:11 pm

Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:We do.


Most of the general population knows nothing about satanism. Shit, I only know about it because I’m a theology nerd.

That is true, but this board isn't really typical. That and since we have Satanists here, they have had a chance to explain a bit about the variant they "follow" for better words.
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:12 pm

El Hamidah wrote:
Auze wrote:Zoroastrianism is mostly against; Buddhism, Sikhism, and Hinduism all have mixed opinions of homosexuality.

It should be noted that there's nothing in those religions scriptures against homosexuality.

Hinduism it can be argued is implicitly against homosexuality, as you can't be a Grihastha without marrying a girl. But there have been perfectly orthodox Hindus that accept homosexuality or were gay themselves.


So long as one marries in Hinduism (and presumably have a kid), is there an issue with a man having sex with a man?
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Postby Hakons » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:15 pm

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As others have stated, your religious affiliation should not be determined by the actions of other people. This matter is between you and God. Reject God, deny His message, and denounce His Church as much as you want. Just know that the doorway to God is always open; hoping and waiting for a second glance.


The Catholic church is a thoroughly toxic institution, and quite prideful and arrogant (as your post only proves). That will be its downfall.


I'm not Catholic, and my post wasn't arrogant. I was merely saying that despite how many times someone vehemently condemns they Church, they are always welcome back.

The Catholic Church isn't toxic and has done more for helping the poor, feeding the hungry, and healing the sick than any other institution in the world.
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:18 pm

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The Catholic church is a thoroughly toxic institution, and quite prideful and arrogant (as your post only proves). That will be its downfall.


I'm not Catholic, and my post wasn't arrogant. I was merely saying that despite how many times someone vehemently condemns they Church, they are always welcome back.

The Catholic Church isn't toxic and has done more for helping the poor, feeding the hungry, and healing the sick than any other institution in the world.

That would be because they have massive numbers, the good that Catholics have done does not negate the serious harm that the church has supported. The abuse of children is not the only thing they have done that was harmful, we can also look to them claiming in Africa that condoms do not help prevent the spread of aids. The church has objectively done serious harm.
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Postby El Hamidah » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:19 pm

Also Satanism, actual Satanism not the LeVayen stuff, is probably not something you want to get into. Theres a very real risk of going insane believing and practicing it.
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:19 pm

El Hamidah wrote:Also Satanism, actual Satanism not the LeVayen stuff, is probably not something you want to get into. Theres a very real risk of going insane believing and practicing it.

And your evidence for this is?
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Postby Ieskarios » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:20 pm

LaVeyan """""""""Satanism""""""""""""" is just a hedonistic atheist philosophy that masquerades with Satan imagery for... some reason.
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:21 pm

Ieskarios wrote:LaVeyan """""""""Satanism""""""""""""" is just a hedonistic atheist philosophy that masquerades with Satan imagery for... some reason.

Because it is useful, most likely. And how are you differentiating religion from philosophy?
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Postby El Hamidah » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:21 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
El Hamidah wrote:It should be noted that there's nothing in those religions scriptures against homosexuality.

Hinduism it can be argued is implicitly against homosexuality, as you can't be a Grihastha without marrying a girl. But there have been perfectly orthodox Hindus that accept homosexuality or were gay themselves.


So long as one marries in Hinduism (and presumably have a kid), is there an issue with a man having sex with a man?

No, adultery's never been accepted.
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Postby Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:23 pm

El Hamidah wrote:Also Satanism, actual Satanism not the LeVayen stuff, is probably not something you want to get into. Theres a very real risk of going insane believing and practicing it.


Most theistic satanist that I’ve listen to and spoken with don’t worship the devil of the Bible or the Koran. They worship the ancient Gods. I haven’t come across a satanist that worships the devil of the Bible or the Koran.
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Postby El Hamidah » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:24 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
El Hamidah wrote:Also Satanism, actual Satanism not the LeVayen stuff, is probably not something you want to get into. Theres a very real risk of going insane believing and practicing it.

And your evidence for this is?

Ask anyone who practices magic.

I'm not saying they're all crazy, all I'm saying is the risk is there.
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:25 pm

El Hamidah wrote:
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So long as one marries in Hinduism (and presumably have a kid), is there an issue with a man having sex with a man?

No, adultery's never been accepted.

I know very little about Hinduism, wiki however says that they recognize third gender marriages.
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:26 pm

El Hamidah wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:And your evidence for this is?

Ask anyone who practices magic.

That is not evidence. That is an additional claim.
There is a risk that anyone can go insane.
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Postby Salus Maior » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:26 pm

Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Besides possibly the abrahamic religions what other religions hold that a man being intimate with another man to b sinful? Also there are religions that find it just fine. Look at certain versions of Satanism.


You just gave more than half the Christians on this thread a coronary with that suggestion. I’m going to bet a dollar that the ones that do research statanism, they’re going to find out and be shocked that most self-identify don’t actually worship Satan and are atheistic in their belief in God or the Devil.


It's pretty common knowledge that "Satanism" is really just super edgy atheism.

It's really sad how much you're hoping that Christians just get triggered by whatever, and think we don't actually know very plain and obvious things.
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Postby Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:28 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Ieskarios wrote:LaVeyan """""""""Satanism""""""""""""" is just a hedonistic atheist philosophy that masquerades with Satan imagery for... some reason.

Because it is useful, most likely. And how are you differentiating religion from philosophy?


I enjoy and happen to strongly agree with the individualist teachings of LaVeyan Satanism. I just don’t get the theatrics. Although, I would love to attend a black mass were an actual consecrated host was desecrated. Not that I believe it’s actually Jesus’s body, blood, soul and divinity, but because it would a nice and healthy release for myself.
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Postby Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:29 pm

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Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol wrote:
You just gave more than half the Christians on this thread a coronary with that suggestion. I’m going to bet a dollar that the ones that do research statanism, they’re going to find out and be shocked that most self-identify don’t actually worship Satan and are atheistic in their belief in God or the Devil.


It's pretty common knowledge that "Satanism" is really just super edgy atheism.

It's really sad how much you're hoping that Christians just get triggered by whatever, and think we don't actually know very plain and obvious things.


Eh, you cared enough to respond. It’s called a “joke”, sunshine. ;)
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