Considering segregation is an idea supported by some of the blacks too, no. But also, supporting minority can be done without directly offending the values of majority, especially when you're a country conducting a diplomatic mission.
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by Afrique Occidentale » Wed May 23, 2018 11:44 am

by Internationalist Bastard » Wed May 23, 2018 11:46 am
Afrique Occidentale wrote:Internationalist Bastard wrote:So supporting minoritity means hating the values of the majority? If I said I hated segregation in the 60s would you say I’m against the values of whites?
Considering segregation is an idea supported by some of the blacks too, no. But also, supporting minority can be done without directly offending the values of majority, especially when you're a country conducting a diplomatic mission.

by The Grinning Business » Wed May 23, 2018 11:48 am

by New Bannana Republic » Wed May 23, 2018 11:51 am
The New California Republic wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-44209251Belarus has slammed the UK embassy in Minsk for flying a rainbow flag on the International Day Against Homophobia, calling LGBT relationships "fake".
In a lengthy statement, the Interior Ministry said the UK was challenging the country's "traditional values".
"The LGBT community, and all this fight for 'their rights', and the very day of the community are just a fake!"
Relationships between men and women were the "only way of reproduction", it added. "No matter which way you look at it but a same-sex relationship is a fake. And the essence of the fake is always the same - the erosion of the truth."
Oh dear Belarus, lashing out at the LGBT community by demeaning their relationships as "fake". If reproduction is the category for judging what is a relationship and what is not, then someone better tell all those opposite sex couples who are infertile that their relationship is also "fake", as well as post-menopausal women who are in a relationship with a man. It is also entirely possible for trans couples to have children, so is their relationship "fake"?
Are LGBT relationships "fake"? What has prompted Belarus to say something about the issue now, considering the British Embassy in Belarus has flown the rainbow flag in previous years? Is hanging certain flags from an Embassy a form of interference in the affairs of the host country?

by The Parkus Empire » Wed May 23, 2018 11:54 am
Jelmatt wrote:The Parkus Empire wrote:Special pleading, extremely strong intimacy can be felt between an adult and child, as with the parental bond.
The issue defining sex's uniqueness not simply that sex is the supreme intimacy. An old couple dying together is far more intimate than prostitution
Alright, fine, I'll concede this point. What is the thing that makes sex unique in your view?

by Afrique Occidentale » Wed May 23, 2018 11:54 am
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Afrique Occidentale wrote:Considering segregation is an idea supported by some of the blacks too, no. But also, supporting minority can be done without directly offending the values of majority, especially when you're a country conducting a diplomatic mission.
But they did nothing offensive to the majority
They just said “hey we like gay people we support you”. They didn’t even say the government should treat them better just a message of support

by The Parkus Empire » Wed May 23, 2018 11:56 am

by Internationalist Bastard » Wed May 23, 2018 11:57 am

by Risen Prussia » Wed May 23, 2018 11:58 am

by Internationalist Bastard » Wed May 23, 2018 11:58 am
Afrique Occidentale wrote:Internationalist Bastard wrote:But they did nothing offensive to the majority
They just said “hey we like gay people we support you”. They didn’t even say the government should treat them better just a message of support
Again, the flag waving is pretty blatant. Imagine putting that black Mohammed flag in Israel and say that it is done to support the Arab muslims.

by Internationalist Bastard » Wed May 23, 2018 11:59 am
Risen Prussia wrote:Well... I agree with Belarus... but it seems a little harsh for them to actually say that.

by Jelmatt » Wed May 23, 2018 11:59 am
The Parkus Empire wrote:Jelmatt wrote:
Alright, fine, I'll concede this point. What is the thing that makes sex unique in your view?
Completing and moving beyond the Sexual Self (you do not recognize masturbation as "legitimate" sex precisely because it never goes beyond the sexual self) through recognition and encounter with the Sexual Other qua Sexual Other. Now this is possible in many other interpersonal activities, *but* the difference is that the Sexual Other is defined as such always in reference *to sex*. It is the nexus from which Sexual Other radiates into all other interpersonal activities, and without it we would cease to have the Sexual Other. Therefore sexuality is unique specifically because it is the reference point which defines the sexes, and each sex exists only in relation to it (even if very indirectly). Sex defines sexes before all else.

by Crushbossian » Wed May 23, 2018 12:00 pm
Risen Prussia wrote:Well... I agree with Belarus... but it seems a little harsh for them to actually say that.

by The Parkus Empire » Wed May 23, 2018 12:00 pm

by Afrique Occidentale » Wed May 23, 2018 12:00 pm
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Afrique Occidentale wrote:Again, the flag waving is pretty blatant. Imagine putting that black Mohammed flag in Israel and say that it is done to support the Arab muslims.
There’s a world of difference between the ethnic religious conflict in Israel and gay people in Belorus

by The Parkus Empire » Wed May 23, 2018 12:01 pm
Jelmatt wrote:The Parkus Empire wrote:Completing and moving beyond the Sexual Self (you do not recognize masturbation as "legitimate" sex precisely because it never goes beyond the sexual self) through recognition and encounter with the Sexual Other qua Sexual Other. Now this is possible in many other interpersonal activities, *but* the difference is that the Sexual Other is defined as such always in reference *to sex*. It is the nexus from which Sexual Other radiates into all other interpersonal activities, and without it we would cease to have the Sexual Other. Therefore sexuality is unique specifically because it is the reference point which defines the sexes, and each sex exists only in relation to it (even if very indirectly). Sex defines sexes before all else.
Could you repeat that please, but with less jargon?

by Internationalist Bastard » Wed May 23, 2018 12:03 pm

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