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Postby Jelmatt » Wed May 23, 2018 11:01 am

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Sex is a highly intimate sexual activity between more than one person. I guess even that definition's a little broad since it could arguably include something as minor as making out, but the important part is that sex is specifically a interpersonal form of sexual behavior.

Maybe, but masturbation doesn't really fall under that since it's not a form of interpersonal activity in the first place. To use your previous logic in establishing sex as something different, you might dislike if your partner has sex with someone else, but if you have a problem with your partner masturbating you're really being unreasonable.

I would say that plenty of interpersonal activities can be highly intimate tho. What makes sexual intimacy fundamentally unique?


Degree, really. Sex isn't just intimate, it, as a whole, is one of the most incredibly intimate activities possible.
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Postby Grenartia » Wed May 23, 2018 11:01 am

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I'm not even following him around. Not my fault he keeps posting in the same thread as me.

Perhaps, but what is the point of just telling someone the equivalent of "I dislike you know, and everyone you used to be friends with dislikes you now"?


When did I say that?
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Wed May 23, 2018 11:03 am

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United Muscovite Nations wrote:Perhaps, but what is the point of just telling someone the equivalent of "I dislike you know, and everyone you used to be friends with dislikes you now"?


When did I say that?

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Everyone but Parkus does.

I think it's pretty clear that that's the intent of this statement.
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Postby Grenartia » Wed May 23, 2018 11:05 am

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When did I say that?

Grenartia wrote:
Everyone but Parkus does.

I think it's pretty clear that that's the intent of this statement.


If that's what you want to read into it. Doesn't mean that's the actual intent, though.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed May 23, 2018 11:07 am

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The Parkus Empire wrote:I would say that plenty of interpersonal activities can be highly intimate tho. What makes sexual intimacy fundamentally unique?


Degree, really. Sex isn't just intimate, it, as a whole, is one of the most intimate activities possible.

So sex is solely distinguished by degree of intimacy? If your 40 year old friend sleeps with your fourteen year old daughter, you would object based on it being excessively intimate?
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Postby Afrique Occidentale » Wed May 23, 2018 11:09 am

Unpopular opinion, but I think despite how...archaic, Belarus opinion is, they entitled to refuse such display from foreign ambassador, especially for issues they clearly stand on.

When in Rome, act like a Roman. Why does the west, especially the Anglos, seems so hard to respect other culture and values beside their own? And more importantly, why does the Ambassador even allow this? When did the foreign embassy stop respecting the country that host them and demand respect from their host nation?

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed May 23, 2018 11:11 am

Afrique Occidentale wrote:Unpopular opinion, but I think despite how...archaic, Belarus opinion is, they entitled to refuse such display from foreign ambassador, especially for issues they clearly stand on.

When in Rome, act like a Roman. Why does the west, especially the Anglos, seems so hard to respect other culture and values beside their own? And more importantly, why does the Ambassador even allow this? When did the foreign embassy stop respecting the country that host them and demand respect from their host nation?

It's basically just redneck stuff on this point
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Postby Afrique Occidentale » Wed May 23, 2018 11:12 am

The Parkus Empire wrote:It's basically just redneck stuff on this point

I'm sorry, what?

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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Wed May 23, 2018 11:13 am

Afrique Occidentale wrote:Unpopular opinion, but I think despite how...archaic, Belarus opinion is, they entitled to refuse such display from foreign ambassador, especially for issues they clearly stand on.

When in Rome, act like a Roman. Why does the west, especially the Anglos, seems so hard to respect other culture and values beside their own? And more importantly, why does the Ambassador even allow this? When did the foreign embassy stop respecting the country that host them and demand respect from their host nation?

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed May 23, 2018 11:15 am

Afrique Occidentale wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:It's basically just redneck stuff on this point

I'm sorry, what?

I mean flying the flag might have been dumb, but calling the comments "cultural" is really stretching the definition of "culture". The comments were just inflammatory.
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Postby Afrique Occidentale » Wed May 23, 2018 11:16 am

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Afrique Occidentale wrote:Unpopular opinion, but I think despite how...archaic, Belarus opinion is, they entitled to refuse such display from foreign ambassador, especially for issues they clearly stand on.

When in Rome, act like a Roman. Why does the west, especially the Anglos, seems so hard to respect other culture and values beside their own? And more importantly, why does the Ambassador even allow this? When did the foreign embassy stop respecting the country that host them and demand respect from their host nation?

They put up a flag the monsters

A flag have meaning, values, and people deserve to disagree on it.

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Postby Trumptonium1 » Wed May 23, 2018 11:16 am

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So Europoors and Canada.

Nobody else.

and many south american countries,


In a parallel universe?

I'm actually quite intrigued. Who are you talking about? Suriname?

Cekoviu wrote:and Japan


The country whose primary foreign affairs goal at the moment is to massage other countries worries over Japan's planned amendment of their constitution by 2020 to remove Article 9, proclaiming forever kumbaya and no more wars abroad? A constitution which is, de facto, an international treaty between Japan and everyone who signed the peace treaty?

Cekoviu wrote:and South Korea,


source?

Cekoviu wrote: and Australia and New Zealand


Comes under Canada

Not sure I'd class Australia's treatment of illegal immigrants as in line with international laws, but whatever.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Wed May 23, 2018 11:17 am

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Internationalist Bastard wrote:They put up a flag the monsters

A flag have meaning, values, and people deserve to disagree on it.

Sure but Britain’s going “Hey Gay Belorussians, not every body hates you” isn’t some crazy imperialist act
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Postby Jelmatt » Wed May 23, 2018 11:19 am

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Degree, really. Sex isn't just intimate, it, as a whole, is one of the most intimate activities possible.

So sex is solely distinguished by degree of intimacy? If your 40 year old friend sleeps with your fourteen year old daughter, you would object based on it being excessively intimate?


My objection would be that the 40 year old and 14 year old can't face each other as sexual equals, and so the intimacy can't really be considered properly authentic. It's a false intimacy which is exacerbated by the fact that the younger participant, since she's still an adolescent, has a very unstable and uncertain sexuality which she herself probably doesn't understand that well.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed May 23, 2018 11:20 am

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Afrique Occidentale wrote:A flag have meaning, values, and people deserve to disagree on it.

Sure but Britain’s going “Hey Gay Belorussians, not every body hates you” isn’t some crazy imperialist act

A while back posters were advocating a queer invasion of Belarus. I'm onto you.
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Postby Afrique Occidentale » Wed May 23, 2018 11:22 am

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Afrique Occidentale wrote:A flag have meaning, values, and people deserve to disagree on it.

Sure but Britain’s going “Hey Gay Belorussians, not every body hates you” isn’t some crazy imperialist act

Im not saying anything about it being imperialist, I'm saying that Britain saying "Hey, most Belorussians, fuck you" ain't something nice either, and really the Ambassador should take it into account that he need to maybe respect the values of his own host country.

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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Wed May 23, 2018 11:23 am

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Internationalist Bastard wrote:Sure but Britain’s going “Hey Gay Belorussians, not every body hates you” isn’t some crazy imperialist act

A while back posters were advocating a queer invasion of Belarus. I'm onto you.

What just cuz I’m trans and have military experience, speak Russian and know how to build an AK doesn’t mean I’m gonna go use all of those skills to start a rebellion.

Don’t go to Belarus
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Wed May 23, 2018 11:24 am

Afrique Occidentale wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Sure but Britain’s going “Hey Gay Belorussians, not every body hates you” isn’t some crazy imperialist act

Im not saying anything about it being imperialist, I'm saying that Britain saying "Hey, most Belorussians, fuck you" ain't something nice either, and really the Ambassador should take it into account that he need to maybe respect the values of his own host country.

This wasn’t a fuck you to most Belorussians. It was support to a minority.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed May 23, 2018 11:24 am

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The Parkus Empire wrote:So sex is solely distinguished by degree of intimacy? If your 40 year old friend sleeps with your fourteen year old daughter, you would object based on it being excessively intimate?


My objection would be that the 40 year old and 14 year old can't face each other as sexual equals, and so the intimacy can't really be considered properly authentic. It's a false intimacy which is exacerbated by the fact that the younger participant, since she's still an adolescent, has a very unstable and uncertain sexuality which she herself probably doesn't understand that well.

Special pleading, extremely strong intimacy can be felt between an adult and child, as with the parental bond.

The issue defining sex's uniqueness not simply that sex is the supreme intimacy. An old couple dying together is far more intimate than prostitution
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Postby Cekoviu » Wed May 23, 2018 11:27 am

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Cekoviu wrote:and many south american countries,


In a parallel universe?

I'm actually quite intrigued. Who are you talking about? Suriname?

chile, for one

Cekoviu wrote:and Japan


The country whose primary foreign affairs goal at the moment is to massage other countries worries over Japan's planned amendment of their constitution by 2020 to remove Article 9, proclaiming forever kumbaya and no more wars abroad? A constitution which is, de facto, an international treaty between Japan and everyone who signed the peace treaty?

i mean, it's not the greatest, but they at least try to make it look like they obey international laws

Cekoviu wrote:and South Korea,


source?

never mind on that one

Cekoviu wrote: and Australia and New Zealand


Comes under Canada

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Postby Afrique Occidentale » Wed May 23, 2018 11:29 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Afrique Occidentale wrote:Im not saying anything about it being imperialist, I'm saying that Britain saying "Hey, most Belorussians, fuck you" ain't something nice either, and really the Ambassador should take it into account that he need to maybe respect the values of his own host country.

This wasn’t a fuck you to most Belorussians. It was support to a minority.

And clear disregard to most Belorussians values by the embassy.

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed May 23, 2018 11:32 am

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The Parkus Empire wrote:A while back posters were advocating a queer invasion of Belarus. I'm onto you.

What just cuz I’m trans and have military experience, speak Russian and know how to build an AK doesn’t mean I’m gonna go use all of those skills to start a rebellion.

Don’t go to Belarus

I won't let you turn them into your own personal Candyland.

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Postby Trumptonium1 » Wed May 23, 2018 11:33 am

Cekoviu wrote:
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In a parallel universe?

I'm actually quite intrigued. Who are you talking about? Suriname?

chile, for one


I recall Chile being criticised by the Human Rights Watch and UN no less for excessive police brutality, lack of press freedom (prime minister suing newspapers) and discrimination against the disabled.

Cekoviu wrote:

The country whose primary foreign affairs goal at the moment is to massage other countries worries over Japan's planned amendment of their constitution by 2020 to remove Article 9, proclaiming forever kumbaya and no more wars abroad? A constitution which is, de facto, an international treaty between Japan and everyone who signed the peace treaty?

i mean, it's not the greatest, but they at least try to make it look like they obey international laws


So does Belarus. By staying quiet and doing what most Muslim countries are doing.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Wed May 23, 2018 11:37 am

Afrique Occidentale wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:This wasn’t a fuck you to most Belorussians. It was support to a minority.

And clear disregard to most Belorussians values by the embassy.

So supporting minoritity means hating the values of the majority? If I said I hated segregation in the 60s would you say I’m against the values of whites?
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Postby Jelmatt » Wed May 23, 2018 11:43 am

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My objection would be that the 40 year old and 14 year old can't face each other as sexual equals, and so the intimacy can't really be considered properly authentic. It's a false intimacy which is exacerbated by the fact that the younger participant, since she's still an adolescent, has a very unstable and uncertain sexuality which she herself probably doesn't understand that well.

Special pleading, extremely strong intimacy can be felt between an adult and child, as with the parental bond.

The issue defining sex's uniqueness not simply that sex is the supreme intimacy. An old couple dying together is far more intimate than prostitution


Alright, fine, I'll concede this point. What is the thing that makes sex unique in your view?
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Aillyria wrote:That's Capitalism's natural tendency, tbh.


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