LGBT Relationships "Fake", According to Belarus

[Velga Prime]

So relationships between the elderly are also fake, since those will not lead to kids?

Who is going to tell grandma...

The Belarussian government, apparently. . .

[-Ocelot-]

If they want their rights they better start fighting, quit being soft and pick up your gun!

This is not how Democracy works.

Even if you take such an idea seriously, the LGBT are and will always be a minority. If they revolt to demand equal rights, they'll have to face the ignorant majority on most cases.

[Grenartia]

That's because pretty much every translation from every version of the Bible derives from one or two translations from the middle of the second millenium. If the fabrications, mistranslations, and misinterpretations happened before the influential translations were completed, then it would easily explain it.

Then it's a good thing that the Orthodox Church doesn't use translations for the clergy.

lolwat.

[Grenartia]

If they want their rights they better start fighting, quit being soft and pick up your gun!

This is not how Democracy works.

Even if you take such an idea seriously, the LGBT are and will always be a minority. If they revolt to demand equal rights, they'll have to face the ignorant majority on most cases.

To be fair, you can't accurately call Belarus a democracy.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Then it's a good thing that the Orthodox Church doesn't use translations for the clergy.

lolwat.

Orthodox clergy are required to be able to read Koine Greek, and the Greek Orthodox, Antiochian Orthodox, Palestinian Orthodox, and Alexandrian Orthodox, all use Koine Greek in daily clerical use.

[Petrolheadia]

That's because pretty much every translation from every version of the Bible derives from one or two translations from the middle of the second millenium. If the fabrications, mistranslations, and misinterpretations happened before the influential translations were completed, then it would easily explain it.

Then it's a good thing that the Orthodox Church doesn't use translations for the clergy.

Are Ancient: Greek, Hebrew and Arameic lessons a job perk, or do you have to take them on your own?

[Petrolheadia]

lolwat.

Orthodox clergy are required to be able to read Koine Greek, and the Greek Orthodox, Antiochian Orthodox, Palestinian Orthodox, and Alexandrian Orthodox, all use Koine Greek in daily clerical use.

What about Hebrew and Arameic?

[United Muscovite Nations]

Orthodox clergy are required to be able to read Koine Greek, and the Greek Orthodox, Antiochian Orthodox, Palestinian Orthodox, and Alexandrian Orthodox, all use Koine Greek in daily clerical use.

What about Hebrew and Arameic?

Georgian Orthodox clergy are required to know Aramaic. Hebrew is optional but preferred. Both languages are important in the Syriac Orthodox Church, because they are used in daily services.

[Washington Resistance Army]

lolwat.

Orthodox clergy are required to be able to read Koine Greek, and the Greek Orthodox, Antiochian Orthodox, Palestinian Orthodox, and Alexandrian Orthodox, all use Koine Greek in daily clerical use.

What about Hebrew and Arameic?

Georgian Orthodox clergy are required to know Aramaic. Hebrew is optional but preferred. Both languages are important in the Syriac Orthodox Church, because they are used in daily services.

How can the Latin nerds even compete?

[Petrolheadia]

What about Hebrew and Arameic?

Georgian Orthodox clergy are required to know Aramaic. Hebrew is optional but preferred. Both languages are important in the Syriac Orthodox Church, because they are used in daily services.

So many actually do read translations.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Orthodox clergy are required to be able to read Koine Greek, and the Greek Orthodox, Antiochian Orthodox, Palestinian Orthodox, and Alexandrian Orthodox, all use Koine Greek in daily clerical use.

Georgian Orthodox clergy are required to know Aramaic. Hebrew is optional but preferred. Both languages are important in the Syriac Orthodox Church, because they are used in daily services.

How can the Latin nerds even compete?

Really the whole controversy over Arsenokoitai is overblown. Koine Greek is the language of theology, the idea that the entire Christian world forgot this language and was just relying on translations for its entire history is absurd.

Moreover, the Roman Catholic Church uses translations from before the fall of the WRE, so they aren't dependent on later translations either.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Georgian Orthodox clergy are required to know Aramaic. Hebrew is optional but preferred. Both languages are important in the Syriac Orthodox Church, because they are used in daily services.

So many actually do read translations.

The New Testament was originally in Koine Greek, so that's what's important. And, officially, we use the Septuagint, which is the Old Testament the Alexandrian Jews used, which is also in Koine Greek.

However, none of this is actually relevant to the thread, because Belarus' views on homosexuality aren't based on Christianity.

[Petrolheadia]

How can the Latin nerds even compete?

Really the whole controversy over Arsenokoitai is overblown. Koine Greek is the language of theology, the idea that the entire Christian world forgot this language and was just relying on translations for its entire history is absurd.

Moreover, the Roman Catholic Church uses translations from before the fall of the WRE, so they aren't dependent on later translations either.

The Roman Catholic Church uses local language Bibles.

In fact, they're sometimes quite modern translations, e.g. New International Version (1978, revised in 2011) in the Anglosphere, Thousand-Year Bible (1965, though 1980 and later editions are preferred) in Poland.

[Trumptonium1]

Nobody cares about international legislation.

except countries who don't want to spark international outcry and legal ramifications

So Europoors and Canada.

Nobody else.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Really the whole controversy over Arsenokoitai is overblown. Koine Greek is the language of theology, the idea that the entire Christian world forgot this language and was just relying on translations for its entire history is absurd.

Moreover, the Roman Catholic Church uses translations from before the fall of the WRE, so they aren't dependent on later translations either.

The Roman Catholic Church uses local language Bibles.

In fact, they're sometimes quite modern translations, e.g. New International Version (1978, revised in 2011) in the Anglosphere, Thousand-Year Bible (1965, though 1980 and later editions are preferred) in Poland.

Up until that though, they used the Vulgate, which was from the Western Roman Empire, and is still the official translation.

[Jelmatt]

I think it was implied that I was saying that there's no moral/ethical importance to the division.

Which depends on whether or not you see sex as an act which has potential for ethical content.

I do, I just reject that the gender of the participants has anything to do with it.

[The Parkus Empire]

It's a big statue.

You think everything other than Nazism is liberal. :^)

Your liberal-orthoboo heterosexuality obstructs the path of national regeneration. The imposition of revolutionary-syncretic cosplay aesthetics by the Party and its compulsory youth movement will surely purge these decadent impulses.

Unless "revolutionary-syncretic cosplay aesthetics" is a brand of prune juice, I don't think my body is ready.

[The Parkus Empire]

Which depends on whether or not you see sex as an act which has potential for ethical content.

I do, I just reject that the gender of the participants has anything to do with it.

What gives it ethical content? And is sex fundamentally different from every other interpersonal activity?

[Jelmatt]

I do, I just reject that the gender of the participants has anything to do with it.

What gives it ethical content? And is sex fundamentally different from every other interpersonal activity?

Consensual and interpersonal. Treating the other person as an end in and of themselves.

It can be, but isn't inherently. It can be the pinnacle of intimacy, but honestly as long as it's done in a way that is consensual and respects the partner as an independent agent I actually have no problem with casual sex.

[The Parkus Empire]

What gives it ethical content? And is sex fundamentally different from every other interpersonal activity?

Consensual and interpersonal. Treating the other person as a means in and of themselves.

It can be, but isn't inherently. It can be the pinnacle of intimacy, but honestly as long as it's done in a way that is consensual and respects the partner as an independent agent I actually have no problem with casual sex.

Don't you mean "end"?

Scruton contends that sex is fundamentally different from every other interpersonal activity. For example, one probably wouldn't care about one's spouse playing checkers with one's neighbor, but sex would be another story. Or if one's 40 year old friend visited, his cooking with your fourteen-year-old daughter wouldn't bother you, but if you found him in bed with her you would probably be upset.

[Jelmatt]

Consensual and interpersonal. Treating the other person as a means in and of themselves.

It can be, but isn't inherently. It can be the pinnacle of intimacy, but honestly as long as it's done in a way that is consensual and respects the partner as an independent agent I actually have no problem with casual sex.

Don't you mean "end"?

Scruton contends that sex is fundamentally different from every other interpersonal activity. For example, one probably wouldn't care about one's spouse playing checkers with one's neighbor, but sex would be another story. Or if one's 40 year old friend visited, his cooking with your fourteen-year-old daughter wouldn't bother you, but if you found him in bed with her you would probably be upset.

Shit, yeah, that's what I meant. Oops.

That's a good enough point. How does it relate to homosexuality, though?

[The Parkus Empire]

Don't you mean "end"?

Scruton contends that sex is fundamentally different from every other interpersonal activity. For example, one probably wouldn't care about one's spouse playing checkers with one's neighbor, but sex would be another story. Or if one's 40 year old friend visited, his cooking with your fourteen-year-old daughter wouldn't bother you, but if you found him in bed with her you would probably be upset.

Shit, yeah, that's what I meant. Oops.

That's a good enough point. How does it relate to homosexuality, though?

So Kantian ethics?

Before homosexuality can be addressed, we have to determine if sex is fundamentally different from every other interpersonal activity.

[ElectriKM]

Belarus, i think that you need a better point than,"Relationships that cant result in children are fake". Considering I'm a trans lesbian, are you saying me and my girlfriend have a fake relationship?

[Solidair]

Well, this topic certainly has been seriously popping in the past two days. . .

[Indo-Malaysia]

I disagree with the statement from the Belarusians.

I would however avoid sourcing the BBC. It is state-run media that churns out propaganda that supports the ruling class.