LGBT Relationships "Fake", According to Belarus

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Sex is about enjoyment with your partner or whatever you personally make of it between consenting adults. Transcending is genderless.

[Dumb Ideologies]

That's his rational? In that case 1000 cats must have been super transcendent. Lots of "sexual difference" there.

Sex is not about transcending one's humanity, though

Why are you putting barriers in the way of maximal self-transcendence Parkus? Are you hoarding the most intimate encounters with the Other for yourself? :^)

[The Parkus Empire]

That's not what he says. He says sexuality is about an intimate encounter with the Other, to become them, almost. And that since sexuality is sexuality, the Other is primarily defined in sexual terms. Without man and woman, there is no sexual Other.

Yes there is.

Where would you like to start? The fact that gay sex releases the same chemicals in the body as straight sex, or the fact that you don't need a vagina or penis to have sex. (I would post examples but I'm afriad the mods would get mad)

It does, of course, but Scruton would say that sex purely for hormone stimulation is "narcissistic," just about self pleasuring

[El Hamidah]

Why would God care about homosexuality anyway

[Dogmeat]

That's his rational? In that case 1000 cats must have been super transcendent. Lots of "sexual difference" there.

Sex is not about transcending one's humanity, though

I put it to you that this obsession over the transcendent ontos of sex, and it's apparently arbitrary physical limitations, is very far removed from any actual experience of sex. And is therefore useless.

[The Parkus Empire]

Sex is not about transcending one's humanity, though

Why are you putting barriers in the way of maximal self-transcendence Parkus? Are you hoarding the most intimate encounters with the Other for yourself? :^)

Communion is for everyone. :^)

[New haven america]

Yes there is.

Where would you like to start? The fact that gay sex releases the same chemicals in the body as straight sex, or the fact that you don't need a vagina or penis to have sex. (I would post examples but I'm afriad the mods would get mad)

It does, of course, but Scruton would say that sex purely for hormone stimulation is "narcissistic," just about self pleasuring

And Scruton's full of shit, I'll pretend to be shocked.

[El Hamidah]

Yes there is.

Where would you like to start? The fact that gay sex releases the same chemicals in the body as straight sex, or the fact that you don't need a vagina or penis to have sex. (I would post examples but I'm afriad the mods would get mad)

It does, of course, but Scruton would say that sex purely for hormone stimulation is "narcissistic," just about self pleasuring

Something tells me this guy spent a lot of time philosophizing about sex and not enough having it.

It can be just as much for unitive purposes with gay couples by the way.

[The Parkus Empire]

Sex is not about transcending one's humanity, though

I put it to you that this obsession over the transcendent ontos of sex, and it's apparently arbitrary physical limitations, is very far removed from any actual experience of sex. And is therefore useless.

It is, arguably, far removed from most experiences of sex. Not necessarily *all* though, and it need not be consciously considered to be real.

[Dogmeat]

It does, of course, but Scruton would say that sex purely for hormone stimulation is "narcissistic," just about self pleasuring

Something tells me this guy spent a lot of time philosophizing about sex and not enough having it.

Admittedly the, "it's for research," line never worked for me either.

[The Parkus Empire]

It does, of course, but Scruton would say that sex purely for hormone stimulation is "narcissistic," just about self pleasuring

Something tells me this guy spent a lot of time philosophizing about sex and not enough having it.

He is a philosopher, he philosophizes about everything including eating as an ethical activity

[New haven america]

Something tells me this guy spent a lot of time philosophizing about sex and not enough having it.

He is a philosopher

Otherwise known as "Having too much time on your hands."

[El Hamidah]

Christian "philosophers" are memes.

[The Parkus Empire]

Essentially the question is, "What is the *point* of sex?" A lot of people would simply say, "Pleasure". Scruton sees that as narcissistic because he says that's the same as masturbation.

[Australian rePublic]

Maybe they f%%ked up their English and meant to say "illegal" instead of fake?

[Dogmeat]

I put it to you that this obsession over the transcendent ontos of sex, and it's apparently arbitrary physical limitations, is very far removed from any actual experience of sex. And is therefore useless.

It is, arguably, far removed from most experiences of sex. Not necessarily *all* though, and it need not be consciously considered to be real.

Oh, I do think the transcendent experience of sharing ones being with another is real. It's one of my favorite things about sex, in fact. I'm just skeptical of the claim that this was only possible because my partner had a vagina.

I think your pet philosopher is taking one of the best things about sex, and clumsily twisting it into a brute cudgel out of sheer bigotry.

[The Parkus Empire]

He is a philosopher

Otherwise known as "Having too much time on your hands."

He was knighted for it

[The Parkus Empire]

Christian "philosophers" are memes.

He's not a Christian. He does like Christianity but he does not believe it

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Essentially the question is, "What is the *point* of sex?" A lot of people would simply say, "Pleasure". Scruton sees that as narcissistic because he says that's the same as masturbation.

What's the problem with masturbation?

[FelrikTheDeleted]

Otherwise known as "Having too much time on your hands."

That’s a incredibly narrow minded approach to philosophy.

Christian "philosophers" are memes.

t. Someone who hasn’t touched Christian philosophy

[The Parkus Empire]

It is, arguably, far removed from most experiences of sex. Not necessarily *all* though, and it need not be consciously considered to be real.

Oh, I do think the transcendent experience of sharing ones being with another is real. It's one of my favorite things about sex, in fact. I'm just skeptical of the claim that this was only possible because my partner had a vagina.

I think your pet philosopher is taking one of the best things about sex, and clumsily twisting it into a brute cudgel out of sheer bigotry.

I don't think it's just a matter of genital difference from his perspective, but the full differences between a man and a woman as sexual counterparts

[El Hamidah]

Essentially the question is, "What is the *point* of sex?" A lot of people would simply say, "Pleasure". Scruton sees that as narcissistic because he says that's the same as masturbation.

"happiness" I guess would count as pleasure. As does a feeling of transcendence of your self.

[The Parkus Empire]

Essentially the question is, "What is the *point* of sex?" A lot of people would simply say, "Pleasure". Scruton sees that as narcissistic because he says that's the same as masturbation.

What's the problem with masturbation?

For Scruton it's self-absorbed sex. It's taking a self-transcendent activity and using it purely as a self-pleasuring one. Similar to taking a pill that makes you feel like you gave money to charity, just to indulge the feeling.

[The Parkus Empire]

Essentially the question is, "What is the *point* of sex?" A lot of people would simply say, "Pleasure". Scruton sees that as narcissistic because he says that's the same as masturbation.

"happiness" I guess would count as pleasure. As does a feeling of transcendence of your self.

Define happiness

[The East Marches II]

It does, of course, but Scruton would say that sex purely for hormone stimulation is "narcissistic," just about self pleasuring

And Scruton's full of shit, I'll pretend to be shocked.

Is it not for pleasure? :^)