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The United Provinces of Serbania wrote:I agree with Belarus. God made marriage be between one man and one woman. Period. (and also lgbt people look like freaks. My parents taught me about not being gay) I mean, 29% of LGBT people had attempted suicide at least once in the prior year compared to 6% of heterosexual people. In 2014, gay and bisexual men accounted for 8 out of 10 HIV diagnoses. So, Belarus is actually trying to benefit it's population.

Right wing humour squad wrote:It’s ok entire nations are allowed to be wrong. Look how many have taxation!

Saleon wrote:

Right wing humour squad wrote:It’s ok entire nations are allowed to be wrong. Look how many have taxation!

The United Provinces of Serbania wrote:I agree with Belarus. God made marriage be between one man and one woman. [...] In 2014, gay and bisexual men accounted for 8 out of 10 HIV diagnoses. So, Belarus is actually trying to benefit it's population.

Saleon wrote:also,

The United Provinces of Serbania wrote:I agree with Belarus. God made marriage be between one man and one woman. [...] In 2014, gay and bisexual men accounted for 8 out of 10 HIV diagnoses. So, Belarus is actually trying to benefit it's population.

I'm going to avoid most of your idiotic understanding of how mental illness works to just make a comment about your use of HIV/AIDS.

Ahem. I'm not even going to care about your oversimplification of a very real problem. But let's just look at the fact that your understanding of faith is to say that god gave gays the aids. Aids, a real problem that cause millions of people suffering for years to come. The healthcare bills alone for medication to keep it in check. The worry over minor colds. The acknowledgement that one day you will die of a serious illness. Using your religion to justify casting a side eye to death all around you doesn't make you look like you are in the right. It doesn't make your religion look good either. Honestly, you look like a horrible person. Your disrespect to gay people says more about you than about gays simple right to exist and let live.

Haedros 92712 wrote:

Saleon wrote:also,
I'm going to avoid most of your idiotic understanding of how mental illness works to just make a comment about your use of HIV/AIDS.

Ahem. I'm not even going to care about your oversimplification of a very real problem. But let's just look at the fact that your understanding of faith is to say that god gave gays the aids. Aids, a real problem that cause millions of people suffering for years to come. The healthcare bills alone for medication to keep it in check. The worry over minor colds. The acknowledgement that one day you will die of a serious illness. Using your religion to justify casting a side eye to death all around you doesn't make you look like you are in the right. It doesn't make your religion look good either. Honestly, you look like a horrible person. Your disrespect to gay people says more about you than about gays simple right to exist and let live.

Woot woot!

The United Provinces of Serbania wrote:I agree with Belarus. God made marriage be between one man and one woman. Period. (and also lgbt people look like freaks. My parents taught me about not being gay) I mean, 29% of LGBT people had attempted suicide at least once in the prior year compared to 6% of heterosexual people. In 2014, gay and bisexual men accounted for 8 out of 10 HIV diagnoses. So, Belarus is actually trying to benefit it's population.

The United Provinces of Serbania wrote:I mean, 29% of LGBT people had attempted suicide at least once in the prior year compared to 6% of heterosexual people. In 2014, gay and bisexual men accounted for 8 out of 10 HIV diagnoses. So, Belarus is actually trying to benefit it's population.

The United Provinces of Serbania wrote:My parents taught me about not being gay

The United Provinces of Serbania wrote:I agree with Belarus. God made marriage be between one man and one woman. Period. (and also lgbt people look like freaks. My parents taught me about not being gay) I mean, 29% of LGBT people had attempted suicide at least once in the prior year compared to 6% of heterosexual people. In 2014, gay and bisexual men accounted for 8 out of 10 HIV diagnoses. So, Belarus is actually trying to benefit it's population.

The Huskar Social Union wrote:

The United Provinces of Serbania wrote:I agree with Belarus. God made marriage be between one man and one woman. Period. (and also lgbt people look like freaks. My parents taught me about not being gay) I mean, 29% of LGBT people had attempted suicide at least once in the prior year compared to 6% of heterosexual people. In 2014, gay and bisexual men accounted for 8 out of 10 HIV diagnoses. So, Belarus is actually trying to benefit it's population.

Well maybe if they were not treated like absolute fucking dog shit they would be less likely to kill themselves?

Trumptonium1 wrote:

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Well maybe if they were not treated like absolute fucking dog shit they would be less likely to kill themselves?

Implying gay suicide rates are in line with the rest of society in ultra kumbaya societies like Sweden and Netherlands.

Vassenor wrote:

Trumptonium1 wrote:
Implying gay suicide rates are in line with the rest of society in ultra kumbaya societies like Sweden and Netherlands.

So what data are you building this argument on?

For the record, family acceptance is fairly influential in reducing suicidal ideation or suicide attempts in LGBT individuals.

Ryan, C., Russell, S., Huebner, D., Diaz, R., & Sanchez, J. (2010). Family Acceptance in Adolescence and the Health of LGBT Young Adults in Journal Of Child And Adolescent Psychiatric Nursing, Vol23(4) pp205-213.

Klein, A., & Golub, S. (2016). Family Rejection as a Predictor of Suicide Attempts and Substance Misuse Among Transgender and Gender Nonconforming Adults in LGBT Health, Vol3(3) pp193-199

Of the participants [LGBT survey], 63.9% and 12.8% reported suicidal ideation and suicide attempts, respectively (no significant gender differences; Table 1). These percentages are much higher than those found in a representative study among 18- to 24-year-old individuals in the Dutch population, which showed that 10.3% had ever “felt so down that they had thought about killing themselves,” and 2.2% had attempted suicide.

Trumptonium1 wrote:

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Well maybe if they were not treated like absolute fucking dog shit they would be less likely to kill themselves?

Implying gay suicide rates are in line with the rest of society in ultra kumbaya societies like Sweden and Netherlands.

Anywhere Else But Here wrote:

Trumptonium1 wrote:
Implying gay suicide rates are in line with the rest of society in ultra kumbaya societies like Sweden and Netherlands.

Implying that sexual orientation in those countries is a matter of complete indifference, perhaps akin to hair colour.

Trumptonium1 wrote:

Anywhere Else But Here wrote:Implying that sexual orientation in those countries is a matter of complete indifference, perhaps akin to hair colour.

Is it not?

Trumptonium1 wrote:

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Well maybe if they were not treated like absolute fucking dog shit they would be less likely to kill themselves?

Implying gay suicide rates are in line with the rest of society in ultra kumbaya societies like Sweden and Netherlands.

Trumptonium1 wrote:

Vassenor wrote:
So what data are you building this argument on?

For the record, family acceptance is fairly influential in reducing suicidal ideation or suicide attempts in LGBT individuals.

Ryan, C., Russell, S., Huebner, D., Diaz, R., & Sanchez, J. (2010). Family Acceptance in Adolescence and the Health of LGBT Young Adults in Journal Of Child And Adolescent Psychiatric Nursing, Vol23(4) pp205-213.

Klein, A., & Golub, S. (2016). Family Rejection as a Predictor of Suicide Attempts and Substance Misuse Among Transgender and Gender Nonconforming Adults in LGBT Health, Vol3(3) pp193-199

Swedish homosexuals are three times more likely to suicide as Swedish heterosexuals.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/peopl ... it-suicide

As for the Netherlands
5. Ten Have M, Van Dorsselaer S, Tuithof M, De Graaf R. Recent Findings on Suicidality in the Dutch Population: Results From the Netherlands Mental Health Survey and Incidence Study-2 (NEMESIS-2) [in Dutch] Utrecht, The Netherlands: Trimbos Instituut/Netherlands Insititute of Mental Health and Addiction; 2011

Of the participants [LGBT survey], 63.9% and 12.8% reported suicidal ideation and suicide attempts, respectively (no significant gender differences; Table 1). These percentages are much higher than those found in a representative study among 18- to 24-year-old individuals in the Dutch population, which showed that 10.3% had ever “felt so down that they had thought about killing themselves,” and 2.2% had attempted suicide.

Trumptonium1 wrote:

Anywhere Else But Here wrote:Implying that sexual orientation in those countries is a matter of complete indifference, perhaps akin to hair colour.

Is it not?

Anywhere Else But Here wrote:

Trumptonium1 wrote:
Is it not?

I would guess not. But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe people in Sweden no longer even have a concept of coming out. Maybe gay teens just sort of casually mention over dinner, without any forethought, "I think I like girls" and their parents say, "that's nice dear" and by the time they've done the dishes they've practically forgotten the conversation because such things matter so little in Sweden.

Maybe.

Krovistal wrote:If I'm going to be frank, none of us have the right to judge another person. The most we can do is to be kind amd loving to everyone, regardless of faith or identity, race or wbatever else someone else may be judged on. Only The Lord has the power to judge, and because of that, we can't judge others in His sake. If someone is gay or lesbian or any other form of LGBTQ+, then we have a moral obligation as Christians (which includes all denominations) to be accepting and kind until we all receive judgement.

Just wanted to throw my hat in the ring. I am open to logical discussion.

Haedros 92712 wrote:I looked at this “lifesitenews” and at first saw no major problem,other than it being an obscure as hell pro-life site. But then I saw that they had a catholic edition, which meant specifically that there was most likely a catholic influence in the actual normal edition, as it would ale no sense if there weren’t. In fact, I checked the main page, and all of it was anti homosexual articles, including to separate ones including priests or bishops. This indicates that “lifesitenews” is not a credible source for a story of the nature you presented us with.

Vassenor wrote:

Haedros 92712 wrote:I looked at this “lifesitenews” and at first saw no major problem,other than it being an obscure as hell pro-life site. But then I saw that they had a catholic edition, which meant specifically that there was most likely a catholic influence in the actual normal edition, as it would ale no sense if there weren’t. In fact, I checked the main page, and all of it was anti homosexual articles, including to separate ones including priests or bishops. This indicates that “lifesitenews” is not a credible source for a story of the nature you presented us with.

And it doesn't do a whole lot to refute what I said about parental and social acceptance reducing the incidence of suicide ideation.

Haedros 92712 wrote:I looked at this “lifesitenews” and at first saw no major problem,other than it being an obscure as hell pro-life site. But then I saw that they had a catholic edition, which meant specifically that there was most likely a catholic influence in the actual normal edition, as it would ale no sense if there weren’t. In fact, I checked the main page, and all of it was anti homosexual articles, including to separate ones including priests or bishops. This indicates that “lifesitenews” is not a credible source for a story of the nature you presented us with.