Should Rural Votes be Weighted Against Urban Votes?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Like you know more about the California state legislation, and don't fucking give me the sad excuse of "I worked in the legislature so I know more than you" bullshit attitude.

It is certainly not the the rubber stamp dictatorship Telconi thinks it is

It pretty much is though. One group has a supermajority in both chambers and can do whatever it wants.

[Freezic Vast]

Like you know more about the California state legislation, and don't fucking give me the sad excuse of "I worked in the legislature so I know more than you" bullshit attitude.

It is certainly not the the rubber stamp dictatorship Telconi thinks it is

Except that's exactly what it is.

[San Lumen]

It is certainly not the the rubber stamp dictatorship Telconi thinks it is

It pretty much is though. One group has a supermajority in both chambers and can do whatever it wants.

And once more i say the people of California voted for that majority

[Washington Resistance Army]

It pretty much is though. One group has a supermajority in both chambers and can do whatever it wants.

And once more i say the people of California voted for that majority

Which doesn't have anything to do with what we were just talking about?

[The Lone Alliance]

It is certainly not the the rubber stamp dictatorship Telconi thinks it is

It pretty much is though. One group has a supermajority in both chambers and can do whatever it wants.

Hell aren't some elections literally "Democrat versus Democrat" because they lock Republicans out in the Primary?

[Auze]

It pretty much is though. One group has a supermajority in both chambers and can do whatever it wants.

Hell aren't some elections literally "Democrat versus Democrat" because they lock Republicans out in the Primary?

It is the opposite here.

[Washington Resistance Army]

It pretty much is though. One group has a supermajority in both chambers and can do whatever it wants.

Hell aren't some elections literally "Democrat versus Democrat" because they lock Republicans out in the Primary?

Yeah CA's election system is shit and should be thrown out. There's a few other states that do kinda the same thing too and we should also remove those.

[San Lumen]

It is certainly not the the rubber stamp dictatorship Telconi thinks it is

Except that's exactly what it is.

Given how you've said the you think your completely ignored despite your party having the majority in the legislature and you dont think the governor represents you should they be elected by number of counties won and not by how many votes they get?

Or perhaps all statewide officials should be chosen by the state legislature? Would you think that to be fairer?

[San Lumen]

It pretty much is though. One group has a supermajority in both chambers and can do whatever it wants.

Hell aren't some elections literally "Democrat versus Democrat" because they lock Republicans out in the Primary?

Its because of a stupid system called top two. The two candidates with the most votes advance to the general. Its a dumb system and it should be repealed.

[The East Marches II]

You ever been to the UK? Or the Middle East?

Unfortunately! I spent quite some years in Europe and the ME. I preferred the Turks and the Arabs tbh.

TEM claims to have traveled widely, but I'm pretty sure the furthest he's ever been from whoever's basement he lives in is the nearest grocery store, since his understanding of global geopolitics and the world seems to be most strongly based off of Risk rather than anything else.

TEM ON ABSOLUTE SUICIDE WATCH, PERMA-BTFO

TEM, you remain utterly fucking wrong, as usual. Let me know when Europe starts arresting and torturing journalists, staging fake coup d'etats to justify purges of the military and bureaucracy (like your own motherland and her sultan!), executing homosexuals and "apostates", murdering, kidnapping, and torturing women who won't go along with arranged marriages, assassinating candidates for national office who are considered too reformist, stopping people with so much as an Israeli passport stamp from even connecting through its airports, having terrorist groups and rival warlords take over large areas of its territory, having its cities obliterated by civil war, and being poor and riddled with epidemic disease- until then, your absurd hyperboles will remain as laughable as ever.

Europe starts arresting and torturing journalists

My good man, you've never heard me rail against Italy's finest, carabinieri?

staging fake coup d'etats to justify purges of the military and bureaucracy

Check

executing homosexuals and "apostates"

Not state sanction but the victims don't find justice : /

murdering, kidnapping, and torturing women who won't go along with arranged marriages

Check!

assassinating candidates for national office who are considered too reformist

I suppose driving threatening to drive tanks over them in Catalonia doesn't count because they pussed out

stopping people with so much as an Israeli passport stamp from even connecting through its airports

Not there yet tbh

having terrorist groups and rival warlords take over large areas of its territory

Check

having its cities obliterated by civil war

Check

being poor and riddled with epidemic disease

Check

I'm seeing alot of factors on the qualifies for ME scale. Don't forget show trials for political reasons!

[The Lone Alliance]

Hell aren't some elections literally "Democrat versus Democrat" because they lock Republicans out in the Primary?

Yeah CA's election system is shit and should be thrown out. There's a few other states that do kinda the same thing too and we should also remove those.

Well eventually California will suffer the faults of a one party state.

[Telconi]

It pretty much is though. One group has a supermajority in both chambers and can do whatever it wants.

And once more i say the people of California voted for that majority

Who cares. Fuck man, the people of Germany voted for a Nazi majority in 1933.

[Freezic Vast]

Except that's exactly what it is.

Given how you've said the you think your completely ignored despite your party having the majority in the legislature and you dont think the governor represents you should they be elected by number of counties won and not by how many votes they get?

Or perhaps all statewide officials should be chosen by the state legislature? Would you think that to be fairer?

Let me state for the record that A) I am not a Republican, B) we are not talking about my state and C) your fallacies should not be answered at all because they are ridiculous off-topic and unnecessary.

[San Lumen]

And once more i say the people of California voted for that majority

Who cares. Fuck man, the people of Germany voted for a Nazi majority in 1933.

Correction they did not. The Nazis never had a majority in Reichstag.

[Freezic Vast]

Who cares. Fuck man, the people of Germany voted for a Nazi majority in 1933.

Correction they did not. The Nazis never had a majority in Reichstag.

They still had the most seats and the most votes, what's your fucking point?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Who cares. Fuck man, the people of Germany voted for a Nazi majority in 1933.

Correction they did not. The Nazis never had a majority in Reichstag.

They won 44% of the vote, in a system like that it was more than enough to entirely take over.

[San Lumen]

Given how you've said the you think your completely ignored despite your party having the majority in the legislature and you dont think the governor represents you should they be elected by number of counties won and not by how many votes they get?

Or perhaps all statewide officials should be chosen by the state legislature? Would you think that to be fairer?

Let me state for the record that A) I am not a Republican, B) we are not talking about my state and C) your fallacies should not be answered at all because they are ridiculous off-topic and unnecessary.

You have said in the previous post that the governor and entirety of state government doesn't represent you. Would you think it fairer if the the governor and all other statewide officials were chosen by the state legislature?

[Telconi]

Who cares. Fuck man, the people of Germany voted for a Nazi majority in 1933.

Correction they did not. The Nazis never had a majority in Reichstag.

They and their coalition had a majority. Yu are correct that the Nazi party themselves didn't actually hold a majority, just a large plurality. Point stands, that " a lot of people vote for you" doesn't contribute any magical rightness to your position

[Freezic Vast]

Let me state for the record that A) I am not a Republican, B) we are not talking about my state and C) your fallacies should not be answered at all because they are ridiculous off-topic and unnecessary.

You have said in the previous post that the governor and entirety of state government doesn't represent you. Would you think it fairer if the the governor and all other statewide officials were chosen by the state legislature?

I said that my so called representatives don't represent me I didn't say a damn thing about the legislature as a whole like you think I did.

[San Lumen]

You have said in the previous post that the governor and entirety of state government doesn't represent you. Would you think it fairer if the the governor and all other statewide officials were chosen by the state legislature?

I said that my so called representatives don't represent me I didn't say a damn thing about the legislature as a whole like you think I did.

You also said the governor doesnt represent you either. Should they by chosen by number of counties won and not by popular vote or perhaps chosen by the state legislature?

How does your representative not represent you? They are not a dictator.

[Napkiraly]

Correction they did not. The Nazis never had a majority in Reichstag.

They won 44% of the vote, in a system like that it was more than enough to entirely take over.

Not to mention most of the right was willing to ally with them in order to bully the Reds. They just didn't count on getting bullied themselves.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I said that my so called representatives don't represent me I didn't say a damn thing about the legislature as a whole like you think I did.

You also said the governor doesnt represent you either. Should they by chosen by number of counties won and not by popular vote or perhaps chosen by the state legislature?

How does your representative not represent you? They are not a dictator.

Because, and this might come as a shock to you, his representative doesn't hold his views?

[Napkiraly]

So really 50%+ of the German population was willing to support the Nazis or at the very least ally with them.

[Ors Might]

Because simply having a majority on your side is not a good reason to screw over the minority. That’s the exact damn reasoning behind why racial and sexual minorities have legal protection, so that the majority can’t simply screw them over.

Define screw over. The law gives certain hard limits to what can be done with majority support in a democracy.

You mention racial and sexual minorities but why shouldn't LGBT people, women and minorities get their own representatives?

By screw over, I’m being slightly hyperbolic. I was imagining scenarios where an urban area wants to spend quite a bit on a project and needs the rural areas to help chip in, despite the project not benefiting the rural communities in any tangible way and raising taxes on them despite that. What I and many others want is to change the way the state legislature works so that if urbanites want rural communities to help pay for their projects, their representatives would have to negotiate the the rural representatives and try to come to an equitable solution.

I’m not opposed to the idea. Just for the sake of pragmatism would I prefer they have some sort of party to advocate for them or some other sort of advocacy group.

[Telconi]

They won 44% of the vote, in a system like that it was more than enough to entirely take over.

Not to mention most of the right was willing to ally with them in order to bully the Reds. They just didn't count on getting bullied themselves.

>The fucking Catholics...