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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:23 am

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That last bit does seem pretty decent, yeah.

Why?


Well for one because that hardly seems like something that should even be an electable position and two because what in the fuck does someone in Houston know about agriculture?

Spoiler on that last bit but it's not a whole lot, at least the people I know from the area.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:27 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Why?


Well for one because that hardly seems like something that should even be an electable position and two because what in the fuck does someone in Houston know about agriculture?

Spoiler on that last bit but it's not a whole lot, at least the people I know from the area.


It is in some states albeit not many but shouldnt everyone have a say in a statewide election regardless of whether they are on a farm or in a city or suburban area

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:30 am

San Lumen wrote:
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Well for one because that hardly seems like something that should even be an electable position and two because what in the fuck does someone in Houston know about agriculture?

Spoiler on that last bit but it's not a whole lot, at least the people I know from the area.


It is in some states albeit not many but shouldnt everyone have a say in a statewide election regardless of whether they are on a farm or in a city or suburban area


No they really shouldn't. Something like that should be handled solely by the people it will impact, ie farmers and co.
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Postby Proctopeo » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:31 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
It is in some states albeit not many but shouldnt everyone have a say in a statewide election regardless of whether they are on a farm or in a city or suburban area


No they really shouldn't. Something like that should be handled solely by the people it will impact, ie farmers and co.

But that goes against the Urbanreich!
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:34 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
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It is in some states albeit not many but shouldnt everyone have a say in a statewide election regardless of whether they are on a farm or in a city or suburban area


No they really shouldn't. Something like that should be handled solely by the people it will impact, ie farmers and co.


And someone in Birmingham gets deprived of a choice in a statewide election? The decisions of the that office would affect them perhaps indirectly

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Postby Proctopeo » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:38 am

San Lumen wrote:
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No they really shouldn't. Something like that should be handled solely by the people it will impact, ie farmers and co.


And someone in Birmingham gets deprived of a choice in a statewide election? The decisions of the that office would affect them perhaps indirectly

So? It affects the farmers and company much, much more directly.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:39 am

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No they really shouldn't. Something like that should be handled solely by the people it will impact, ie farmers and co.


And someone in Birmingham gets deprived of a choice in a statewide election? The decisions of the that office would affect them perhaps indirectly


No it really wouldn't. Lets use myself an example, the most I do agriculturally is tend to a garden, why should I have a say in something like choosing an agricultural commissioner when I know nothing of the topic and could very potentially end up putting someone unqualified (because what the shit do I know about what you need to be an agriculture commissioner lol) in the position that could have negative ramifications?
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:39 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
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And someone in Birmingham gets deprived of a choice in a statewide election? The decisions of the that office would affect them perhaps indirectly


No it really wouldn't. Lets use myself an example, the most I do agriculturally is tend to a garden, why should I have a say in something like choosing an agricultural commissioner when I know nothing of the topic and could very potentially end up putting someone unqualified (because what the shit do I know about what you need to be an agriculture commissioner lol) in the position that could have negative ramifications?

Should someone who doesnt have a law degree be able to vote for Attorney General?

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:41 am

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No it really wouldn't. Lets use myself an example, the most I do agriculturally is tend to a garden, why should I have a say in something like choosing an agricultural commissioner when I know nothing of the topic and could very potentially end up putting someone unqualified (because what the shit do I know about what you need to be an agriculture commissioner lol) in the position that could have negative ramifications?

Should someone who doesnt have a law degree be able to vote for Attorney General?


Attorney General shouldn't be an elected position.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:42 am

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San Lumen wrote:Should someone who doesnt have a law degree be able to vote for Attorney General?


Attorney General shouldn't be an elected position.


It should just be appointed by the governor then?

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:43 am

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Attorney General shouldn't be an elected position.


It should just be appointed by the governor then?


Yes, maybe also with a required vote by the state legislature to stop anyone really silly from getting in.
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Postby Ors Might » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:44 am

San Lumen wrote:
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Attorney General shouldn't be an elected position.


It should just be appointed by the governor then?

Honest question. Do you think democracy is an inherent good? Because thats how a lot of your posts come across as in this thread.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:45 am

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It should just be appointed by the governor then?


Yes, maybe also with a required vote by the state legislature to stop anyone really silly from getting in.


Any appointed by the governor in any state is subject to confirmation I think.

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Postby Dogmeat » Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:30 am

So Affirmative Action, basically?
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:45 am

Dogmeat wrote:So Affirmative Action, basically?

What?

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Postby The East Marches II » Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:26 pm

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By the measure of having the same political freedom as our dear friends in the Middle East. You don't seriously consider countries that ban jokes, ban political parties and generally speaking are repressive as part of the free world do you? If so I shudder to think what your opinion of China is.


So Europe has the same political freedoms as the Middle East? I'm not sure why but I bothered to find an actual rating on freedom.

https://freedomhouse.org/report-types/freedom-world


Yes they do. Banning hate speech isn't a positive Anon. They suppress political parties, arrest teenage girls for posting rap lyrics they don't approve of, even arrested a man for carrying a potato peeler. They use spies to persecute people for posting shit they have deemed illegal political content to say on the internet. The only difference I'm seeing is that their jails are nicer and at least the Arabs can stand up for themselves really. How do you defend that as part of the free world? :^)

Edit: I forgot about the porn passes lmao

Europe is a shittier version of the Middle East at this point
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Postby Tobleste » Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:42 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
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So Europe has the same political freedoms as the Middle East? I'm not sure why but I bothered to find an actual rating on freedom.

https://freedomhouse.org/report-types/freedom-world


Yes they do. Banning hate speech isn't a positive Anon. They suppress political parties, arrest teenage girls for posting rap lyrics they don't approve of, even arrested a man for carrying a potato peeler. They use spies to persecute people for posting shit they have deemed illegal political content to say on the internet. The only difference I'm seeing is that their jails are nicer and at least the Arabs can stand up for themselves really. How do you defend that as part of the free world? :^)

Edit: I forgot about the porn passes lmao

Europe is a shittier version of the Middle East at this point


I honestly don't know where to start with that.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:32 am

Tobleste wrote:
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Yes they do. Banning hate speech isn't a positive Anon. They suppress political parties, arrest teenage girls for posting rap lyrics they don't approve of, even arrested a man for carrying a potato peeler. They use spies to persecute people for posting shit they have deemed illegal political content to say on the internet. The only difference I'm seeing is that their jails are nicer and at least the Arabs can stand up for themselves really. How do you defend that as part of the free world? :^)

Edit: I forgot about the porn passes lmao

Europe is a shittier version of the Middle East at this point


I honestly don't know where to start with that.


The best part is he isn't wrong. Places like the UK are bad memes at this point.
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Postby Tobleste » Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:37 am

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I honestly don't know where to start with that.


The best part is he isn't wrong. Places like the UK are bad memes at this point.


He isn't. Anyone who compares the UK to the Middle east ito political freedoms is being ridiculous and their knowledge of either is likely limited to bad memes.

I remember you complained before about me putting some posters on ignore and said it was because I didn't like 'different opinions'. I actually do it because ridiculous crap like this is pretty rampant on this forum. I'm not going to explain why Britain is freer than Saudi Arabia for the same reason I won't explain that we're currently using the internet: if you haven't got it already, I can't help you. Seeing as how correcting the error is impossible, why should I have to keep reading the same nonsense?
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Postby The East Marches II » Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:53 am

Tobleste wrote:
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The best part is he isn't wrong. Places like the UK are bad memes at this point.


He isn't. Anyone who compares the UK to the Middle east ito political freedoms is being ridiculous and their knowledge of either is likely limited to bad memes.

I remember you complained before about me putting some posters on ignore and said it was because I didn't like 'different opinions'. I actually do it because ridiculous crap like this is pretty rampant on this forum. I'm not going to explain why Britain is freer than Saudi Arabia for the same reason I won't explain that we're currently using the internet: if you haven't got it already, I can't help you. Seeing as how correcting the error is impossible, why should I have to keep reading the same nonsense?


Anon, I am right though. Explain to me how arresting people for saying the wrong thing is really all that different. Please defend the above. I really wanna see you try. Even better, defend the show trials! You don't know where to start because you can't :^).

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Postby San Lumen » Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:54 am

The East Marches II wrote:
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He isn't. Anyone who compares the UK to the Middle east ito political freedoms is being ridiculous and their knowledge of either is likely limited to bad memes.

I remember you complained before about me putting some posters on ignore and said it was because I didn't like 'different opinions'. I actually do it because ridiculous crap like this is pretty rampant on this forum. I'm not going to explain why Britain is freer than Saudi Arabia for the same reason I won't explain that we're currently using the internet: if you haven't got it already, I can't help you. Seeing as how correcting the error is impossible, why should I have to keep reading the same nonsense?


Anon, I am right though. Explain to me how arresting people for saying the wrong thing is really all that different. Please defend the above. I really wanna see you try. Even better, defend the show trials! You don't know where to start because you can't :^).

Europe is a discount ME.

How did this become a discussion about Europe and freedom?

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Postby Tobleste » Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:59 am

San Lumen wrote:
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Anon, I am right though. Explain to me how arresting people for saying the wrong thing is really all that different. Please defend the above. I really wanna see you try. Even better, defend the show trials! You don't know where to start because you can't :^).

Europe is a discount ME.

How did this become a discussion about Europe and freedom?


I said this weird idea only comes up because some are terrified of urban areas in the US passing gun control. Someone said that's a justification for the idea because gun control would be a violation of their rights. I argued that that particular right wasn't necessary to a democracy while freedom of speech and press was and then someone argued that Europe isn't part of the free world. I guess they think having guns would let people in the UK fight off with police or something.

I know. :?
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Postby Tobleste » Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:00 am

The East Marches II wrote:
Tobleste wrote:
He isn't. Anyone who compares the UK to the Middle east ito political freedoms is being ridiculous and their knowledge of either is likely limited to bad memes.

I remember you complained before about me putting some posters on ignore and said it was because I didn't like 'different opinions'. I actually do it because ridiculous crap like this is pretty rampant on this forum. I'm not going to explain why Britain is freer than Saudi Arabia for the same reason I won't explain that we're currently using the internet: if you haven't got it already, I can't help you. Seeing as how correcting the error is impossible, why should I have to keep reading the same nonsense?


Anon, I am right though. Explain to me how arresting people for saying the wrong thing is really all that different. Please defend the above. I really wanna see you try. Even better, defend the show trials! You don't know where to start because you can't :^).

Europe is a discount ME.


You ever been to the UK? Or the Middle East?
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Postby Senkaku » Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:33 am

Ors Might wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
It should just be appointed by the governor then?

Honest question. Do you think democracy is an inherent good? Because thats how a lot of your posts come across as in this thread.

WRA wants to establish a single-party state, so no.

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Anon, I am right though. Explain to me how arresting people for saying the wrong thing is really all that different. Please defend the above. I really wanna see you try. Even better, defend the show trials! You don't know where to start because you can't :^).

Europe is a discount ME.

TEM, you remain utterly fucking wrong, as usual. Let me know when Europe starts arresting and torturing journalists, staging fake coup d'etats to justify purges of the military and bureaucracy (like your own motherland and her sultan!), executing homosexuals and "apostates", murdering, kidnapping, and torturing women who won't go along with arranged marriages, assassinating candidates for national office who are considered too reformist, stopping people with so much as an Israeli passport stamp from even connecting through its airports, having terrorist groups and rival warlords take over large areas of its territory, having its cities obliterated by civil war, and being poor and riddled with epidemic disease- until then, your absurd hyperboles will remain as laughable as ever.
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Postby Senkaku » Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:34 am

Tobleste wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Anon, I am right though. Explain to me how arresting people for saying the wrong thing is really all that different. Please defend the above. I really wanna see you try. Even better, defend the show trials! You don't know where to start because you can't :^).

Europe is a discount ME.


You ever been to the UK? Or the Middle East?

TEM claims to have traveled widely, but I'm pretty sure the furthest he's ever been from whoever's basement he lives in is the nearest grocery store, since his understanding of global geopolitics and the world seems to be most strongly based off of Risk rather than anything else. :p
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