Breaking: Georgia USA Shooting

[Kernen]

We need a school shooting megathread.

This wasn't a school shooting.

[Ascysia]

We need a school shooting megathread.

Yes for the average of 25 deaths a year...

[Auze]

We need a school shooting megathread.

This wasn't a school shooting.

True, I meant more of a general Shootings megathread

[Great Minarchistan]

facts dont care about your feelings
Children are 128x more likely to be mauled by Pitbulls than die in a school shooting. We need assault dog control, not assault rifle control.

...Because the latter involves the withdrawal of 300 million guns from 80 million Americans?

[Great Minarchistan]

We need a school shooting megathread.

Yes for the average of 25 deaths a year...

B-B-But the next victim could be you! Stop caring about statistics!

[Cannot think of a name]

We need a school shooting megathread.

This wasn't a school shooting.

Are the victims less dead?

[Cannot think of a name]

facts dont care about your feelings
Children are 128x more likely to be mauled by Pitbulls than die in a school shooting. We need assault dog control, not assault rifle control.

You guys haven't done anthing about pitbulls? Yet another area where you act differently to the rest of the developed world

It depends on where you are.

The bans are justified by studies like this:

334 unique dog bites were identified, of which 101 involved the head and neck. The mean patient age was 15.1 years ± 18.1. Of the more than 8 different breeds identified, one-third were caused by pit bull terriers and resulted in the highest rate of consultation (94%) and had 5 times the relative rate of surgical intervention. Unlike all other breeds, pit bull terriers were relatively more likely to attack an unknown individual (+31%), and without provocation (+48%). Injuries of the head and neck had an average follow-up of 1.26 ± 2.4 visits, and average specialty follow-up of 3.1 ± 3.5 visits.
Conclusions

The patients most likely to suffer dog bite injuries of the head and neck are children. Although a number of dog breeds were identified, the largest group were pit bull terriers, whose resultant injuries were more severe and resulted from unprovoked, unknown dogs. More severe injuries required a greater number of interventions, a greater number of inpatient physicians, and more outpatient follow-up encounters. Healthcare utilization and costs associated with dog bites warrant further investigation.

and this one.

pit bull bites were implicated in half of all surgeries performed and over 2.5 times as likely to bite in multiple anatomic locations as compared to other breeds.

and so some municipalities banned the three breeds collectively referred to as pit bulls.

Also, pit bull enthusiasts did a few things. From that wiki article they challenged the bans. But they also tried to rehabilitate the image of the pit bull as a loving animal. They also, along with their advocacy for the breed, support education for owners of pitbulls to curb their temperament. They don't advocate for a pitbull as a way to protect you from the government or some nebulous ever looming threat, they instead try to rehabilitate the dogs to be companion animals to returning soldiers and the like. In essence gun enthusiasts point to another potential cause of harm that we deal with a lot better than we do guns. It's a common practice.

[Big Jim P]

This wasn't a school shooting.

Are the victims less dead?

No, but calling this a school shooting is a good example of the misinformation* spread by the gun grabbers to support their agenda.

*Using the term "misinformation" is being very magnanimous. You can't even accuse the grabbers of ignorance anymore. It is plain, outright lying at this point.

[Cannot think of a name]

Are the victims less dead?

No, but calling this a school shooting is a good example of the misinformation* spread by the gun grabbers to support their agenda.

*Using the term "misinformation" is being very magnanimous. You can't even accuse the grabbers of ignorance anymore. It is plain, outright lying at this point.

I can see this being a compelling argument for you guys to the bystander. "Another school shooting." "IT WASN'T A SCHOOL SHOOTING!" "Oh?" "YEAH, IT TOOK PLACE IN A SCHOOL PARKING LOT! TOTALLY DIFFERENT! IT'S ALL LIES!" "Oh, okay...school parking lot shooting...people still died, though, yes?" "BUT IT WASN'T A SCHOOL SHOOTING, IT WAS A SCHOOL PARKING LOT SHOOTING! CLEARLY THIS MEANS WE SHOULD HAVE ALL THE GUNS!"

Yeah. Go with this. This should be a winning strategy.

[Telconi]

No, but calling this a school shooting is a good example of the misinformation* spread by the gun grabbers to support their agenda.

*Using the term "misinformation" is being very magnanimous. You can't even accuse the grabbers of ignorance anymore. It is plain, outright lying at this point.

I can see this being a compelling argument for you guys to the bystander. "Another school shooting." "IT WASN'T A SCHOOL SHOOTING!" "Oh?" "YEAH, IT TOOK PLACE IN A SCHOOL PARKING LOT! TOTALLY DIFFERENT! IT'S ALL LIES!" "Oh, okay...school parking lot shooting...people still died, though, yes?" "BUT IT WASN'T A SCHOOL SHOOTING, IT WAS A SCHOOL PARKING LOT SHOOTING! CLEARLY THIS MEANS WE SHOULD HAVE ALL THE GUNS!"

Yeah. Go with this. This should be a winning strategy.

Implying I need to convince normal people of anything...

[Senkaku]

I can see this being a compelling argument for you guys to the bystander. "Another school shooting." "IT WASN'T A SCHOOL SHOOTING!" "Oh?" "YEAH, IT TOOK PLACE IN A SCHOOL PARKING LOT! TOTALLY DIFFERENT! IT'S ALL LIES!" "Oh, okay...school parking lot shooting...people still died, though, yes?" "BUT IT WASN'T A SCHOOL SHOOTING, IT WAS A SCHOOL PARKING LOT SHOOTING! CLEARLY THIS MEANS WE SHOULD HAVE ALL THE GUNS!"

Yeah. Go with this. This should be a winning strategy.

Implying I need to convince normal people of anything...

I mean, yeah, to win elections, you do. Trying to just slaughter us or something after the democratic process goes against you probably won't go over too well.

[Telconi]

Implying I need to convince normal people of anything...

I mean, yeah, to win elections, you do. Trying to just slaughter us or something after the democratic process goes against you probably won't go over too well.

Adjectives can provide important information.

[Mystic Warriors]

Still amazes me that pro gunners think there is no problem and all is fine. Are you guys even looking at the broader picture beyond school shootings? Its happens elsewhere too.

[Kernen]

This wasn't a school shooting.

Are the victims less dead?

You say that as if it matters. No matter how dead the victims are, thisnwas not a school shooting. Get off those dead bodies.

[Kernen]

Still amazes me that pro gunners think there is no problem and all is fine. Are you guys even looking at the broader picture beyond school shootings? Its happens elsewhere too.

Why should anybody consent to their rights being restricted?

[Great Minarchistan]

Still amazes me that pro gunners think there is no problem and all is fine. Are you guys even looking at the broader picture beyond school shootings? Its happens elsewhere too.

There is no problem. You're 67% more likely to be killed by an asteroid than being killed by an armed criminal. Should we ban asteroids from colliding with the Earth now?

[Petrolheadia]

Still amazes me that pro gunners think there is no problem and all is fine. Are you guys even looking at the broader picture beyond school shootings? Its happens elsewhere too.

Why should anybody consent to their rights being restricted?

I knew somebody else respected the right to life here!

[Fartsniffage]

Still amazes me that pro gunners think there is no problem and all is fine. Are you guys even looking at the broader picture beyond school shootings? Its happens elsewhere too.

There is no problem. You're 67% more likely to be killed by an asteroid than being killed by an armed criminal. Should we ban asteroids from colliding with the Earth now?

I'm not sure how that stat can be accurate. There has been only one recorded instance of a person being hit by a rock from space in US history and she survived it yet thousand of people are killed by armed criminals in the US every year.

[Petrolheadia]

There is no problem. You're 67% more likely to be killed by an asteroid than being killed by an armed criminal. Should we ban asteroids from colliding with the Earth now?

I'm not sure how that stat can be accurate. There has been only one recorded instance of a person being hit by a rock from space in US history and she survived it yet thousand of people are killed by armed criminals in the US every year.

These statistics are getting more BS every year.

[A Bushwhack]

Gang violence. Such a disgusting thing.

[Great Minarchistan]

There is no problem. You're 67% more likely to be killed by an asteroid than being killed by an armed criminal. Should we ban asteroids from colliding with the Earth now?

I'm not sure how that stat can be accurate. There has been only one recorded instance of a person being hit by a rock from space in US history and she survived it yet thousand of people are killed by armed criminals in the US every year.

Sauce
The risk of being hit by an asteroid is one micromort a week, which translates to 52 MMs a year. The risk of being killed by an armed criminal is 31 MMs.

P.S.: methinks that the risk is an overall global average, as asteroids strike randomly rather than evenly across the planet. Doesn't turn the stats on it any less true though

[Fartsniffage]

I'm not sure how that stat can be accurate. There has been only one recorded instance of a person being hit by a rock from space in US history and she survived it yet thousand of people are killed by armed criminals in the US every year.

Sauce
The risk of being hit by an asteroid is one micromort a week, which translates to 52 MMs a year. The risk of being killed by an armed criminal is 31 MMs.

P.S.: methinks that the risk is an overall global average, as asteroids strike randomly rather than evenly across the planet. Doesn't turn the stats on it any less true though

You have woefully misunderstood what that article is trying to convey. It's talking about comparing the risk of a newborn baby dying on it's first day of life from natural causes in the UK. To have the same risk of dying due to an asteroid impact as a baby dying of natural causes in its first day in the UK you would need to live on earth for 34,000 years.

[The of Japan]

end the war on drugs, that is massively fueling gang violence.

[Great Minarchistan]

Sauce
The risk of being hit by an asteroid is one micromort a week, which translates to 52 MMs a year. The risk of being killed by an armed criminal is 31 MMs.

P.S.: methinks that the risk is an overall global average, as asteroids strike randomly rather than evenly across the planet. Doesn't turn the stats on it any less true though

You have woefully misunderstood what that article is trying to convey. It's talking about comparing the risk of a newborn baby dying on it's first day of life from natural causes in the UK. To have the same risk of dying due to an asteroid impact as a baby dying of natural causes in its first day in the UK you would need to live on earth for 34,000 years.

I have a book from the same author that was written not too long ago, he estimated the risk of being hit by an asteroid as one micromort a week :thronking:

[Fartsniffage]

You have woefully misunderstood what that article is trying to convey. It's talking about comparing the risk of a newborn baby dying on it's first day of life from natural causes in the UK. To have the same risk of dying due to an asteroid impact as a baby dying of natural causes in its first day in the UK you would need to live on earth for 34,000 years.

I have a book from the same author that was written not too long ago, he estimated the risk of being hit by an asteroid as one micromort a week :thronking:

Then he's an idiot. Because if that were the case you would have about 7,000 people per week dying of asteroid impacts across the world. That just isn't happening.

The article you cited gives the figure at about 0.000039 micromorts per year. A much more reasonable figure.