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Postby Uxupox » Sat May 19, 2018 4:26 am

Australian rePublic wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:We have a thread for gun control. This honestly should have been posted there as it’s not a school shooting. As it didn’t happen on school grounds

Claiming that the school's carpark is like claiming that mynaturestrip isn't my land. Whilst it technically isn't, anyone could reasonably suggest it's close enough
Also, I am not an expert on USA convincing laws, and do not know which land belongs to which property. Any reasonable person would suggest that it's school land
Also also, I hear "school shooting" on the news, I report as such


so fake news?
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Postby Purpelia » Sat May 19, 2018 4:32 am

At this point we really need a school shooting megathread. We get like one thread per day on this thing.
Yesterday I was reading yahoo news and the articles said: Coverage of deadly school shooting in america. And my brain just autocorrected it to daily instead. It felt so natural it took other people pointing it out for me to notice that was not the actual title.

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Postby Ascysia » Sat May 19, 2018 6:01 am

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Great Minarchistan wrote:They are regular solely because US has 325 million people. Truthfully, when you analyze the risks:

Students killed by school shootings since 2012: 150 (25 yearly on average)
Number of students in the US: 50 million
Yearly risk of being killed through a school shooting, as a student: 0.5 micromort
Average walking distance to school: 5km (2000km a year, considering 200 school days and going back home)
Risk of being killed by walking 1000km: 44 micromorts
2000km = 88 micromorts

In other words, a student is 170 times more likely to die while walking his way to school and back home than being killed by a school shooting. Really makes you think, huh?

That if you try and turn tragedy to a statistic you can be flippantly dismissive of loss?

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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat May 19, 2018 6:06 am

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Australian rePublic wrote:So in addition to school shootings, we got regular shootings that aren't even news? You guys have got a real problem with violence

They are regular solely because US has 325 million people. Truthfully, when you analyze the risks:

Students killed by school shootings since 2012: 150 (25 yearly on average)
Number of students in the US: 50 million
Yearly risk of being killed through a school shooting, as a student: 0.5 micromort
Average walking distance to school: 5km (2000km a year, considering 200 school days and going back home)
Risk of being killed by walking 1000km: 44 micromorts
2000km = 88 micromorts

In other words, a student is 170 times more likely to die while walking his way to school and back home than being killed by a school shooting. Really makes you think, huh?

And that's an excellent reason to completely ignore/disregard the shootings
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat May 19, 2018 6:07 am

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Thermodolia wrote:We have a thread for gun control. This honestly should have been posted there as it’s not a school shooting. As it didn’t happen on school grounds

Claiming that the school's carpark is like claiming that mynaturestrip isn't my land. Whilst it technically isn't, anyone could reasonably suggest it's close enough
Also, I am not an expert on USA convincing laws, and do not know which land belongs to which property. Any reasonable person would suggest that it's school land
Also also, I hear "school shooting" on the news, I report as such

Funny because my local news stations haven’t reported it as such. Hell its not even headline news. In the US anything outside the school isn’t considered the school
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat May 19, 2018 6:09 am

Uxupox wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Claiming that the school's carpark is like claiming that mynaturestrip isn't my land. Whilst it technically isn't, anyone could reasonably suggest it's close enough
Also, I am not an expert on USA convincing laws, and do not know which land belongs to which property. Any reasonable person would suggest that it's school land
Also also, I hear "school shooting" on the news, I report as such


so fake news?

Well my local news stations haven’t even reported it as such. It’s actually been reported as a shooting near a school.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sat May 19, 2018 6:11 am

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Cannot think of a name wrote:That if you try and turn tragedy to a statistic you can be flippantly dismissive of loss?

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Postby Ascysia » Sat May 19, 2018 6:17 am

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Ascysia wrote:facts dont care about your feelings
Children are 128x more likely to be mauled by Pitbulls than die in a school shooting. We need assault dog control, not assault rifle control.

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Its sad how Americans ask the government to take their rights away. It was firearms that secured America's liberty, and firearms that defended it. It's wrongfully attributed to Isaroku Yamamoto, but it still holds true: "You can not invade the mainland United States, for there would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat May 19, 2018 6:19 am

Ascysia wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:Image

Its sad how Americans ask the government to take their rights away. It was firearms that secured America's liberty, and firearms that defended it. It's wrongfully attributed to Isaroku Yamamoto, but it still holds true: "You can not invade the mainland United States, for there would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."

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Postby Ascysia » Sat May 19, 2018 6:22 am

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Ascysia wrote:Its sad how Americans ask the government to take their rights away. It was firearms that secured America's liberty, and firearms that defended it. It's wrongfully attributed to Isaroku Yamamoto, but it still holds true: "You can not invade the mainland United States, for there would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."

PH ain’t a yank dude. He’s Polish

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Postby Uxupox » Sat May 19, 2018 6:23 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Ascysia wrote:Its sad how Americans ask the government to take their rights away. It was firearms that secured America's liberty, and firearms that defended it. It's wrongfully attributed to Isaroku Yamamoto, but it still holds true: "You can not invade the mainland United States, for there would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."

PH ain’t a yank dude. He’s Polish


lol i remember that the British wanted to seize the colonists armaments.the colonists told them to take a hike.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sat May 19, 2018 6:23 am

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Petrolheadia wrote:Image

Its sad how Americans ask the government to take their rights away. It was firearms that secured America's liberty, and firearms that defended it. It's wrongfully attributed to Isaroku Yamamoto, but it still holds true: "You can not invade the mainland United States, for there would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."

So why do you keep such a damn big army?
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Postby Ascysia » Sat May 19, 2018 7:53 am

Petrolheadia wrote:
Ascysia wrote:Its sad how Americans ask the government to take their rights away. It was firearms that secured America's liberty, and firearms that defended it. It's wrongfully attributed to Isaroku Yamamoto, but it still holds true: "You can not invade the mainland United States, for there would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."

So why do you keep such a damn big army?

I'm not American either.
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Petrolheadia wrote:So why do you keep such a damn big army?

I'm not American either.

You are...
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Postby Ascysia » Sat May 19, 2018 8:36 am

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Ascysia wrote:I'm not American either.

You are...

I was born and live in Europe.
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Postby Shofercia » Sat May 19, 2018 1:45 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:Do people get shot in Poland? Yes.

Do people in Poland, even in the worst neighbourhoods, have to fear being shot? Hell no.

Does Poland have less than a sixth of the US homicide rate? Yeah.

US South - so far down the gun crime shithole, some can't comprehend not having that violence.

If you think the US South is bad then you should go to the US north. Go to Chicago, New York, Philadelphia, Baltimore, and DC. There are close to five hundred murders a year in Chicago, Atlanta only had 33. The Atlanta Metro only had 100, but the Chicago Metro’s number skyrockets to 700.

There are entire neighborhoods of Chicago that the police won’t go into in Chicago. The only city that could possibly come close in the US south is Miami. And don’t forget that LA is a crime shithole as you put it. Gun murders are so fucking common in Chicago that the local news hardly reports on any murder that doesn’t involve three or more people.

So check yourself before you wreck yourself


Hey, let's not compare Chicago to LA, or any Californian Cities. We're not that bad. We're nowhere near that bad. Maybe if you take a really fucked up city like Compton or Victorville, but short of that, it ain't Chicago out here. Chicago proves that blue on blue crime beats red on red crime. Also, Chicago proves that gun control doesn't work in the US.


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Ascysia wrote:Its sad how Americans ask the government to take their rights away. It was firearms that secured America's liberty, and firearms that defended it. It's wrongfully attributed to Isaroku Yamamoto, but it still holds true: "You can not invade the mainland United States, for there would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."

So why do you keep such a damn big army?


Cause Americans didn't listen to Ike.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat May 19, 2018 1:49 pm

Petrolheadia wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:It’s called living in a big city dude. You should try it. The gangs don’t mess around

It's called living in a big US South city.


No it's just part of living in a big city period, that's where our population is poorest and where the drug war is most rampant. Chicago is right up near Canada and it's a hellhole at best and a warzone at worst.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat May 19, 2018 2:51 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Claiming that the school's carpark is like claiming that mynaturestrip isn't my land. Whilst it technically isn't, anyone could reasonably suggest it's close enough
Also, I am not an expert on USA convincing laws, and do not know which land belongs to which property. Any reasonable person would suggest that it's school land
Also also, I hear "school shooting" on the news, I report as such

Funny because my local news stations haven’t reported it as such. Hell its not even headline news. In the US anything outside the school isn’t considered the school

Let's agree that there are journalistic differences between our two countries and move on
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat May 19, 2018 2:53 pm

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Cannot think of a name wrote:That if you try and turn tragedy to a statistic you can be flippantly dismissive of loss?

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You guys haven't done anthing about pitbulls? Yet another area where you act differently to the rest of the developed world
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Australian rePublic wrote:
Ascysia wrote:facts dont care about your feelings
Children are 128x more likely to be mauled by Pitbulls than die in a school shooting. We need assault dog control, not assault rifle control.

You guys haven't done anthing about pitbulls? Yet another area where you act differently to the rest of the developed world


Didn't a dingo eat your baby?

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Postby Uxupox » Sat May 19, 2018 3:00 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:
Ascysia wrote:facts dont care about your feelings
Children are 128x more likely to be mauled by Pitbulls than die in a school shooting. We need assault dog control, not assault rifle control.

You guys haven't done anthing about pitbulls? Yet another area where you act differently to the rest of the developed world


There is no scientific analysis that states pit-bulls are more aggressive than any other type of of dog breed.
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Sat May 19, 2018 3:11 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Why is this news? It’s not a school shooting. Far from it. It’s most likely some idiot parent has a beef with someone or it’s gang related. It’s Clayton county for Gods sake.

It’s just another shooting in the Atlanta Metro

Yeah it's Clayton County, nothing new for them.

That place is a mess and last I heard their sheriff was nuts.
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Postby Northwest Slobovia » Sat May 19, 2018 3:52 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:So in addition to school shootings, we got regular shootings that aren't even news? You guys have got a real problem with violence

Sort of. While the US is about five times more murderous than Australia by population, it's also about fourteen times larger. So, yes, we have a lot of shootings that aren't news... but even if we had Oz's murder rate, we'd have a lot of shootings, and given the size of the country, they probably wouldn't be news either.
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Australian rePublic wrote:
Ascysia wrote:facts dont care about your feelings
Children are 128x more likely to be mauled by Pitbulls than die in a school shooting. We need assault dog control, not assault rifle control.

You guys haven't done anthing about pitbulls? Yet another area where you act differently to the rest of the developed world

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Postby Auze » Sat May 19, 2018 5:33 pm

We need a school shooting megathread.
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