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Postby Uxupox » Sun May 20, 2018 5:17 pm

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you do realize that there is like 10 combat arms jobs compared to hundreds off combat service support, yes?

Sure, and again, you realize that more American students have been killed in their own schools than American servicemen and servicewoman have been killed doing all those jobs in all those totally safe countries?

The rhetorical contortion here is truly incredible lmao


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Postby Senkaku » Sun May 20, 2018 5:18 pm

Uxupox wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Sure, and again, you realize that more American students have been killed in their own schools than American servicemen and servicewoman have been killed doing all those jobs in all those totally safe countries?

The rhetorical contortion here is truly incredible lmao


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Well I'm so glad to be reassured that being an American student is almost as safe as being in the American military lmfao, this definitely seems like a profitable line of argument for ya ;)
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun May 20, 2018 5:19 pm

Tobleste wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:No it’s not. Unless you want to be a manipulative person.

There’s a big difference between an accident, suicide, and murder. The fucking law recognizes it, the people taking the stats recognize it. Apparently you don’t because then you don’t get to claim that it’s a national issue and just a red state one. So you’re being manipulative.


If that was the case Chicago, DC, and LA wouldn’t be always in the top 10 most dangerous cities in the US list. Because each one of them has attempted to ban guns but it hasn’t worked.


Of course it doesn't work as well as they want. Their idiotic neighbours have gun laws so lax anyone can get go and get them no matter the local law.

One day a dem will run for president and announce his plan to build a border wall between blue states and cities and republicans. At least that wall might reduce crime.

Ya no thanks hyperpartisanship can fuck off and die
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun May 20, 2018 5:20 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:95% of the shootings in Atlanta are. The rest are DV and road rage.

So if it's a shooting by certain people or in a certain context, we are supposed to ignore the fact that anyone was shot...? Perhaps you could clarify lmao

The local news and the US national news didn’t run anything about the story. The only one who ran stories about it was foreign media.
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Postby Uxupox » Sun May 20, 2018 5:20 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
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Well I'm so glad to be reassured that being an American student is almost as safe as being in the American military lmfao, this definitely seems like a profitable line of argument for ya ;)


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Postby Senkaku » Sun May 20, 2018 5:20 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Senkaku wrote:So if it's a shooting by certain people or in a certain context, we are supposed to ignore the fact that anyone was shot...? Perhaps you could clarify lmao

The local news and the US national news didn’t run anything about the story. The only one who ran stories about it was foreign media.

Doesn't answer my question?
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun May 20, 2018 5:21 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Kinda hard to have a mass shooting when the FBI says that shootings are classified as mass shootings when 4 or more people are shot. Only two people where shot here.

Where did I call this a mass shooting...?

Also well I guess if only two people got shot it's fine- note to school shooters: do it in little bite-sized pieces at different schools and we'll let you off for the first offence

In the post that I quoted
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Postby Kernen » Sun May 20, 2018 5:23 pm

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Why should anybody consent to their rights being restricted?

I knew somebody else respected the right to life here!


Sure. Which is why I support prosecuting those who shoot others unlawfully.

I also support broad and nonrestrictive gun ownership.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun May 20, 2018 5:24 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:The local news and the US national news didn’t run anything about the story. The only one who ran stories about it was foreign media.

Doesn't answer my question?

I think it does. The local and national news didn’t give a shit about it. The only reason why this is even a thread is because an Australian newspaper picked it up. If they didn’t report it then none of would have cared
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Postby Senkaku » Sun May 20, 2018 5:27 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Where did I call this a mass shooting...?

Also well I guess if only two people got shot it's fine- note to school shooters: do it in little bite-sized pieces at different schools and we'll let you off for the first offence

In the post that I quoted


Senkaku wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
maybe bc there is no actual combat going on lmao.

So unless the kids are shooting at one another, rather than merely getting massacred, it isn't an issue...? The fuck kinda logic is this lol

Senkaku wrote:
So a little more than one every month. How reasonable! Why would anyone think it's problematic that more children are being shot and killed in schools than soldiers on active duty? Guess it's just the price of freedom.

I'll also point out we have mass shootings that take place outside of schools (@vegas).

I'm not sure how asking about how the armament status of the various parties involved in shootings or mentioning non-school-shootings like Vegas could be interpreted as calling this a mass shooting lol

Thermodolia wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Doesn't answer my question?

I think it does. The local and national news didn’t give a shit about it. The only reason why this is even a thread is because an Australian newspaper picked it up. If they didn’t report it then none of would have cared

So because it was largely ignored by the media means it should be largely ignored by the American people, because it was gang-related, in Atlanta, and not actually inside a school building, as opposed to being unrelated to gangs, in a less black city, and physically inside a school?
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun May 20, 2018 5:28 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
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It's almost like you're incapable of understanding context. Are you incapable of understanding context?

It's almost like you're cherrypicking which constitutional rights people are able to exercise. Are you cherrypicking which constitutional rights people are able to exercise?


So yes, you are incapable of understanding context.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun May 20, 2018 5:34 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Senkaku wrote:So if it's a shooting by certain people or in a certain context, we are supposed to ignore the fact that anyone was shot...? Perhaps you could clarify lmao

The local news and the US national news didn’t run anything about the story. The only one who ran stories about it was foreign media.


https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/clayto ... /752279092

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Postby Thermodolia » Sun May 20, 2018 5:36 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:In the post that I quoted


Senkaku wrote:So unless the kids are shooting at one another, rather than merely getting massacred, it isn't an issue...? The fuck kinda logic is this lol


I'll also point out we have mass shootings that take place outside of schools (@vegas).

I'm not sure how asking about how the armament status of the various parties involved in shootings or mentioning non-school-shootings like Vegas could be interpreted as calling this a mass shooting lol

Because I misunderstood what you where getting at

Thermodolia wrote:I think it does. The local and national news didn’t give a shit about it. The only reason why this is even a thread is because an Australian newspaper picked it up. If they didn’t report it then none of would have cared

So because it was largely ignored by the media means it should be largely ignored by the American people, because it was gang-related, in Atlanta, and not actually inside a school building, as opposed to being unrelated to gangs, in a less black city, and physically inside a school?

If the local news media reported on every single bit of gang violence there would be nothing else to report. If it wasn’t reported that someone got mugged in another city would you care about that person? Of course not because you never knew that they existed. It’s the same thing here.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun May 20, 2018 5:38 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:The local news and the US national news didn’t run anything about the story. The only one who ran stories about it was foreign media.


https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/clayto ... /752279092

Well I didn’t see that pop up at all. Not the way a school shooting would. Hell im pretty sure that channel 2 was the only one who reported it. And I get notifications from all of the local news stations and not one of them said anything about it when it happened.
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Postby Senkaku » Sun May 20, 2018 5:39 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
So because it was largely ignored by the media means it should be largely ignored by the American people, because it was gang-related, in Atlanta, and not actually inside a school building, as opposed to being unrelated to gangs, in a less black city, and physically inside a school?

If the local news media reported on every single bit of gang violence there would be nothing else to report. If it wasn’t reported that someone got mugged in another city would you care about that person? Of course not because you never knew that they existed. It’s the same thing here.

Yeah, but this isn't a mugging, it's a shooting. And the media reports all the fucking time on shootings in places like Chicago.

If the media didn't report on North Korean nuclear tests would you care about them? Of course not because you'd never know they happened.

And again- you really haven't answered my question, just basically said "well the media didn't cover it that much because it was small", which are facts that are readily assessable without someone explaining them to me. I'd still like an explanation of why shootings don't merit coverage if they're gang-related, involve black people, or aren't physically inside school buildings.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun May 20, 2018 5:40 pm

Thermodolia wrote:

Well I didn’t see that pop up at all. Not the way a school shooting would. Hell im pretty sure that channel 2 was the only one who reported it. And I get notifications from all of the local news stations and not one of them said anything about it when it happened.


If you check google then a bunch of national news organisation had it as well.

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Postby Harmonian Hegemony » Sun May 20, 2018 11:23 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:
Senkaku wrote:So... very few cases?

Like the Parkland shooter?

Senkaku wrote:"why don't I deflect and smear the FBI (who by the way stop plenty of terrorist attacks that you don't hear about, since they don't happen lol) rather than addressing the issue"

I'm pointing out that the Feds aren't doing a very good job of catching crazy people with the law, so how can more laws magically make it work?


Senkaku wrote:Again- should I just be able to walk into a store and buy a couple tons of ammonium nitrate, pay in cash, no questions asked, since "you just can't stop crazy people"? Or bring whatever I want onto airplanes without having my rights violated by having my possessions searched?
Legally unless a store has a reason sure if a person really wants to buy tons and tons of it sure. however a plane you can't bring whatever you want into it because under that sort of thing you are stating people should be allowed to bring their carry on elephant.
Besides flying in a plane isn't a right.


Why do you want to ban people from flying in planes? Are you a fascist?
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Um...I think his family probably does. As well as anyone who cares about freedom of the press.

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Postby Harmonian Hegemony » Sun May 20, 2018 11:24 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote: :roll:

A post on NSG can't kill someone, a gun can.

I guess you have never heard of cyber bullying and people pushing someone to suicide before?


Not the same thing and you know it.
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Eh, it's Jamal Khashoggi. Who cares.


Um...I think his family probably does. As well as anyone who cares about freedom of the press.

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Postby Harmonian Hegemony » Sun May 20, 2018 11:25 pm

Telconi wrote:
Harmonian Hegemony wrote:
Just pointing out the large amount of pro mass shooting people in this thread...


:roll:


Is it my fault that there are so many people in this thread who approve of mass shootings?
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Um...I think his family probably does. As well as anyone who cares about freedom of the press.

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Postby Telconi » Sun May 20, 2018 11:26 pm

Harmonian Hegemony wrote:
Telconi wrote:
:roll:


Is it my fault that there are so many people in this thread who approve of mass shootings?


It's your fault you post stupid straw men.
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Postby Harmonian Hegemony » Mon May 21, 2018 1:10 am

Telconi wrote:
Harmonian Hegemony wrote:
Is it my fault that there are so many people in this thread who approve of mass shootings?


It's your fault you post stupid straw men.


It's not a strawman to point out that the thread has attracted the mass shooters lobby.
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Um...I think his family probably does. As well as anyone who cares about freedom of the press.

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Postby Thermodolia » Mon May 21, 2018 2:15 am

Harmonian Hegemony wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I guess you have never heard of cyber bullying and people pushing someone to suicide before?


Not the same thing and you know it.

Um it’s definitely the same thing as you can be sentenced to prison for murder if you edged someone on to suicide
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon May 21, 2018 2:21 am

Harmonian Hegemony wrote:
Telconi wrote:
It's your fault you post stupid straw men.


It's not a strawman to point out that the thread has attracted the mass shooters lobby.

Ya know ya might want to tone it down a notch or two.
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Postby Harmonian Hegemony » Mon May 21, 2018 2:24 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Harmonian Hegemony wrote:
It's not a strawman to point out that the thread has attracted the mass shooters lobby.

Ya know ya might want to tone it down a notch or two.


Tone what down? I'm simply pointing out the amount of pro mass shooting people there are in this thread.
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Um...I think his family probably does. As well as anyone who cares about freedom of the press.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon May 21, 2018 2:25 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Harmonian Hegemony wrote:
It's not a strawman to point out that the thread has attracted the mass shooters lobby.

Ya know ya might want to tone it down a notch or two.


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