Breaking: Georgia USA Shooting

[Senkaku]

Federal law enforcement and maybe making sure that crazy people don't get guns?

You realize that already happens right?

The implication here would thus be that would-be mass shooters are not crazy and should not be prevented from acquiring weapons with which to carry out mass shootings.

No, someone is comparing the casualties suffered by US troops posted to warzones around the world to the casualties suffered by US students posted to schools around America.

if you consider staying at the 4 star hotel known as Bagram air force base then sure. it's a warzone.

...yes, Afghanistan is a warzone. Now I'm not sure if we're talking about the same Afghanistan- kinda near Pakistan, has problems with Islamist insurgents (who really like killing Americans) and opium growing and other stuff, we've been fighting there in various capacities since 2001...? Or did you mean a different one?

[Great Minarchistan]

We don't support mass shooting, we just don't care about random and proportionally rare events, exactly what they are. It's like worrying about a plane accident.

Do you have any idea the amount of legislation, rules and oversight on air travel?

There are several regulations imposed on guns either.

[The Two Jerseys]

Yet it's okay to punish all gun owners for the actions of a bad few...

Again, I didn't say that or want to do that.

I just want the crazy people who want guns to shoot up a place to not get guns in the first place.

Crazy people are already not allowed to buy guns.

[Fartsniffage]

Do you have any idea the amount of legislation, rules and oversight on air travel?

There are several regulations imposed on guns either.

Let me know when you have to have a license to use one.

[Uxupox]

You realize that already happens right?

The implication here would thus be that would-be mass shooters are not crazy and should not be prevented from acquiring weapons with which to carry out mass shootings.

if you consider staying at the 4 star hotel known as Bagram air force base then sure. it's a warzone.

...yes, Afghanistan is a warzone. Now I'm not sure if we're talking about the same Afghanistan- kinda near Pakistan, has problems with Islamist insurgents and opium growing and other stuff, we've been fighting there in various capacities since 2001...? Or did you mean a different one?

damn skirmishes in Pakistan/Afghani border means the whole country has gone to hell. go read up on the US Army latest newsletter considering the Taliban.

[The Lone Alliance]

Yet it's okay to punish all gun owners for the actions of a bad few...

Again, I didn't say that or want to do that.

I just want the crazy people who want guns to shoot up a place to not get guns in the first place.

The problem is you think that's possible, if a crazy person wants to kill a lot of people, they're going to kill a lot of people.

[Senkaku]

The implication here would thus be that would-be mass shooters are not crazy and should not be prevented from acquiring weapons with which to carry out mass shootings.


...yes, Afghanistan is a warzone. Now I'm not sure if we're talking about the same Afghanistan- kinda near Pakistan, has problems with Islamist insurgents and opium growing and other stuff, we've been fighting there in various capacities since 2001...? Or did you mean a different one?

damn skirmishes in Pakistan/Afghani border means the whole country has gone to hell. go read up on the US Army latest newsletter considering the Taliban.

Well damn lol who fuckin knew Afghanistan was such a walk in the park! I'm definitely more pissed that US military personnel who volunteered to fight and possibly die for our country sometimes get killed there than I am that US students get massacred in their own schools back home in larger numbers lol

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Again, I didn't say that or want to do that.

I just want the crazy people who want guns to shoot up a place to not get guns in the first place.

Crazy people are already not allowed to buy guns.

I know the law you are talking about, I just want to add a psychiatrist check up on any new gun buyers.

[Great Minarchistan]

You might have not noticed but in Afghanistan (Since the operational role right now of the US armed forces in Iraq is minor with just advisory roles to the south near Basra which now is considered a "station" instead of an actual deployment) the United States has taken more of an advisory role with their deployment of SFAB (Or Security Force Assistance Brigade) which their only job there is to conduct training, advising and assisting. They are in no circumstances expected to fight and in fact have let Afghani Soldiers take control of all combat operations within their sector. You are more likely to get shot in a green on blue incident then ever engaging the Taliban.

But all troops who go there will still get the Afghanistan medal. Perhaps you should offer something similar to all kids that survive high school.

virgin students survive HS and earn a badge, chad students go through hell and keep going

[The Two Jerseys]

There are several regulations imposed on guns either.

Let me know when you have to have a license to use one.

It'll be at the same time that you'll need a license to speak and worship.

[Uxupox]

Crazy people are already not allowed to buy guns.

I know the law you are talking about, I just want to add a psychiatrist check up on any new gun buyers.

how about a psychiatrist check up on going to school and driving motor vehicles? who knows some dude or dudette might just snap and try to beat pedestrians or his/her fellow students.

[The Two Jerseys]

Crazy people are already not allowed to buy guns.

I know the law you are talking about, I just want to add a psychiatrist check up on any new gun buyers.

Poll taxes are bad, m'kay?

[Great Minarchistan]

There are several regulations imposed on guns either.

Let me know when you have to have a license to use one.

Welcome to 39 American states

[Senkaku]

Again, I didn't say that or want to do that.

I just want the crazy people who want guns to shoot up a place to not get guns in the first place.

The problem is you think that's possible,

"the problem isn't that people are being murdered, it's that you think it's possible to save some of them"

fuckin lol

if a crazy person wants to kill a lot of people, they're going to kill a lot of people.

By this logic we should let any old schmuck buy as much ammonium nitrate as they want and bring whatever they want into airports.

Seriously- we have ways to reduce the number of people that crazy people can kill, or even to catch them before they kill anyone. Your theory is "nah, give up, if they want to kill just let them"?

[Fartsniffage]

Let me know when you have to have a license to use one.

It'll be at the same time that you'll need a license to speak and worship.

It's almost like you're incapable of understanding context. Are you incapable of understanding context?

[The Lone Alliance]

I know the law you are talking about, I just want to add a psychiatrist check up on any new gun buyers.

how about a psychiatrist check up on going to school and driving motor vehicles? who knows some dude or dudette might just snap and try to beat pedestrians or his/her fellow students.

And a test to post on NSG, that'll eliminate like half of NSG.

[Fartsniffage]

Let me know when you have to have a license to use one.

Welcome to 39 American states

Very funny.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Again, I didn't say that or want to do that.

I just want the crazy people who want guns to shoot up a place to not get guns in the first place.

The problem is you think that's possible, if a crazy person wants to kill a lot of people, they're going to kill a lot of people.

And we shouldn't try to prevent it?
Last I checked humans are stubbornly getting around what they think is impossible.

Humanity has no limits.

[The Lone Alliance]

The problem is you think that's possible,

"the problem isn't that people are being murdered, it's that you think it's possible to save some of them"

I'm saying that realistically there's no way to tell who's crazy and who isn't before they actually do something crazy. And in all these times when people KNEW they were crazy and actually had laws that could stop the crazy... they did nothing about it.

By this logic we should let any old schmuck buy as much ammonium nitrate as they want and bring whatever they want into airports.

Seriously- we have ways to reduce the number of people that crazy people can kill, or even to catch them before they kill anyone. Your theory is "nah, give up, if they want to kill just let them"?

That's clearly the FBI's policy seeing how well accomplished they've been at dealing with the past few crazy mass killers.

[Uxupox]

The problem is you think that's possible, if a crazy person wants to kill a lot of people, they're going to kill a lot of people.

And we shouldn't try to prevent it?
Last I checked humans are stubbornly getting around what they think is impossible.

Humanity has no limits.

very true.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

how about a psychiatrist check up on going to school and driving motor vehicles? who knows some dude or dudette might just snap and try to beat pedestrians or his/her fellow students.

And a test to post on NSG, that'll eliminate like half of NSG.

A post on NSG can't kill someone, a gun can.

Gun + Crazy person = dead people

Note that it doesn't affect non crazy people, people with minor mental illnesses, or are otherwise found by both a judge and a doctor to be trusted even with there major mental illness.

And it doesn't effect people who already have guns.

[The Lone Alliance]

The problem is you think that's possible, if a crazy person wants to kill a lot of people, they're going to kill a lot of people.

And we shouldn't try to prevent it?
Last I checked humans are stubbornly getting around what they think is impossible.

Humanity has no limits.

Part of the limitless aspects of Humanity is the limitless aspect of Human Malice. Unless you can create some sort of device that gives us a future like the Minority Report.

[Senkaku]

"the problem isn't that people are being murdered, it's that you think it's possible to save some of them"

I'm saying that realistically there's no way to tell who's crazy and who isn't before they actually do something crazy.

...having identified crazy people in my time here on Earth as a human, I'm pretty sure this is just fucking wrong.

And in all these times when people KNEW they were crazy and actually had laws that could stop the crazy...

So... very few cases?

By this logic we should let any old schmuck buy as much ammonium nitrate as they want and bring whatever they want into airports.

Seriously- we have ways to reduce the number of people that crazy people can kill, or even to catch them before they kill anyone. Your theory is "nah, give up, if they want to kill just let them"?

That's clearly the FBI's policy seeing how well accomplished they've been at dealing with the past few crazy mass killers.

"why don't I deflect and smear the FBI (who by the way stop plenty of terrorist attacks that you don't hear about, since they don't happen lol) rather than addressing the issue"

Again- should I just be able to walk into a store and buy a couple tons of ammonium nitrate, pay in cash, no questions asked, since "you just can't stop crazy people"? Or bring whatever I want onto airplanes without having my rights violated by having my possessions searched?

[Uxupox]

And a test to post on NSG, that'll eliminate like half of NSG.

A post on NSG can't kill someone, a gun can.

Gun + Crazy person = dead people

Note that it doesn't affect non crazy people, people with minor mental illnesses, or are otherwise found by both a judge and a doctor to be trusted even with there major mental illness.

And it doesn't effect people who already have guns.

you sure about that?

[The Lone Alliance]

And a test to post on NSG, that'll eliminate like half of NSG.

A post on NSG can't kill someone, a gun can.

Gun + Crazy person = dead people

Note that it doesn't affect non crazy people, people with minor mental illnesses, or are otherwise found by both a judge and a doctor to be trusted even with there major mental illness.

And it doesn't effect people who already have guns.

Funny how most of the crazy people who commit mass shootings were sane up until the day they decided to be crazy. I mean they were able to go day to day without killing and hurting other people... until the day they didn't.