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Postby Senkaku » Sun May 20, 2018 4:18 pm

Uxupox wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Agreed, that makes me roll my eyes every time I hear someone say it tbh.

So a little more than one every month. How reasonable! Why would anyone think it's problematic that more children are being shot and killed in schools than soldiers on active duty? Guess it's just the price of freedom.


maybe bc there is no actual combat going on lmao.

So unless the kids are shooting at one another, rather than merely getting massacred, it isn't an issue...? The fuck kinda logic is this lol

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Once you weed out all the gun-grabber bullshit padding the number, you end up with seven.

So a little more than one every month. How reasonable! Why would anyone think it's problematic that more children are being shot and killed in schools than soldiers on active duty? Guess it's just the price of freedom.

I'll also point out we have mass shootings that take place outside of schools (@vegas).
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Postby Uxupox » Sun May 20, 2018 4:19 pm

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yea it's called federal law enforcement.


Federal law enforcement and maybe making sure that crazy people don't get guns?


gl going home to home and trying to take ownership of their weapons. taking rights away is never pretty especially here stateside.
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Postby Senkaku » Sun May 20, 2018 4:22 pm

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Federal law enforcement and maybe making sure that crazy people don't get guns?


gl going home to home and trying to take ownership of their weapons. taking rights away is never pretty especially here stateside.

I don't understand the weird obsession with trying to veil obvious threats tbh- might as well just outright say what you're implying, aka "If the American people democratically decide to regulate this certain product, we will murder officers of the law and anyone else who gets in the way!"
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun May 20, 2018 4:22 pm

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Federal law enforcement and maybe making sure that crazy people don't get guns?


gl going home to home and trying to take ownership of their weapons. taking rights away is never pretty especially here stateside.


How many times do I need to say it, preventing crazy people from buying guns is not and never will be taking guns away from people who already bought them.

I have never advocated for that. Ever. And I never will.

I am also not advocating taking away rights with out due process.
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Postby Uxupox » Sun May 20, 2018 4:23 pm

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Uxupox wrote:
maybe bc there is no actual combat going on lmao.

So unless the kids are shooting at one another, rather than merely getting massacred, it isn't an issue...? The fuck kinda logic is this lol

Senkaku wrote:
So a little more than one every month. How reasonable! Why would anyone think it's problematic that more children are being shot and killed in schools than soldiers on active duty? Guess it's just the price of freedom.

I'll also point out we have mass shootings that take place outside of schools (@vegas).


You might have not noticed but in Afghanistan (Since the operational role right now of the US armed forces in Iraq is minor with just advisory roles to the south near Basra which now is considered a "station" instead of an actual deployment) the United States has taken more of an advisory role with their deployment of SFAB (Or Security Force Assistance Brigade) which their only job there is to conduct training, advising and assisting. They are in no circumstances expected to fight and in fact have let Afghani Soldiers take control of all combat operations within their sector. You are more likely to get shot in a green on blue incident then ever engaging the Taliban.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun May 20, 2018 4:24 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
gl going home to home and trying to take ownership of their weapons. taking rights away is never pretty especially here stateside.


How many times do I need to say it, preventing crazy people from buying guns is not and never will be taking guns away from people who already bought them.

I have never advocated for that. Ever. And I never will.

But other gun control advocates have, and that's the problem.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun May 20, 2018 4:24 pm

Uxupox wrote:
Senkaku wrote:So unless the kids are shooting at one another, rather than merely getting massacred, it isn't an issue...? The fuck kinda logic is this lol


I'll also point out we have mass shootings that take place outside of schools (@vegas).


You might have not noticed but in Afghanistan (Since the operational role right now of the US armed forces in Iraq is minor with just advisory roles to the south near Basra which now is considered a "station" instead of an actual deployment) the United States has taken more of an advisory role with their deployment of SFAB (Or Security Force Assistance Brigade) which their only job there is to conduct training, advising and assisting. They are in no circumstances expected to fight and in fact have let Afghani Soldiers take control of all combat operations within their sector. You are more likely to get shot in a green on blue incident then ever engaging the Taliban.


What does Afghanistan have to do with Georgia?

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Postby Uxupox » Sun May 20, 2018 4:25 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
gl going home to home and trying to take ownership of their weapons. taking rights away is never pretty especially here stateside.

I don't understand the weird obsession with trying to veil obvious threats tbh- might as well just outright say what you're implying, aka "If the American people democratically decide to regulate this certain product, we will murder officers of the law and anyone else who gets in the way!"


taking rights away via force may work in European countries but not in the United States.
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Postby Uxupox » Sun May 20, 2018 4:25 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
You might have not noticed but in Afghanistan (Since the operational role right now of the US armed forces in Iraq is minor with just advisory roles to the south near Basra which now is considered a "station" instead of an actual deployment) the United States has taken more of an advisory role with their deployment of SFAB (Or Security Force Assistance Brigade) which their only job there is to conduct training, advising and assisting. They are in no circumstances expected to fight and in fact have let Afghani Soldiers take control of all combat operations within their sector. You are more likely to get shot in a green on blue incident then ever engaging the Taliban.


What does Afghanistan have to do with Georgia?


somebody is making a comment comparing school shootings with active combat.
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Postby Senkaku » Sun May 20, 2018 4:25 pm

Uxupox wrote:
Senkaku wrote:So unless the kids are shooting at one another, rather than merely getting massacred, it isn't an issue...? The fuck kinda logic is this lol


I'll also point out we have mass shootings that take place outside of schools (@vegas).


You might have not noticed but in Afghanistan (Since the operational role right now of the US armed forces in Iraq is minor with just advisory roles to the south near Basra which now is considered a "station" instead of an actual deployment) the United States has taken more of an advisory role with their deployment of SFAB (Or Security Force Assistance Brigade) which their only job there is to conduct training, advising and assisting. They are in no circumstances expected to fight and in fact have let Afghani Soldiers take control of all combat operations within their sector. You are more likely to get shot in a green on blue incident then ever engaging the Taliban.

...so your issue is that soldiers are being killed in warzones, and not that a larger number of American students are being killed in American schools. Gotcha.
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Postby Telconi » Sun May 20, 2018 4:26 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
yea it's called federal law enforcement.


Federal law enforcement and maybe making sure that crazy people don't get guns?


You realize that already happens right?
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun May 20, 2018 4:26 pm

Uxupox wrote:
Senkaku wrote:So unless the kids are shooting at one another, rather than merely getting massacred, it isn't an issue...? The fuck kinda logic is this lol


I'll also point out we have mass shootings that take place outside of schools (@vegas).


You might have not noticed but in Afghanistan (Since the operational role right now of the US armed forces in Iraq is minor with just advisory roles to the south near Basra which now is considered a "station" instead of an actual deployment) the United States has taken more of an advisory role with their deployment of SFAB (Or Security Force Assistance Brigade) which their only job there is to conduct training, advising and assisting. They are in no circumstances expected to fight and in fact have let Afghani Soldiers take control of all combat operations within their sector. You are more likely to get shot in a green on blue incident then ever engaging the Taliban.


But all troops who go there will still get the Afghanistan medal. Perhaps you should offer something similar to all kids that survive high school. :)

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Postby Senkaku » Sun May 20, 2018 4:26 pm

Uxupox wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
What does Afghanistan have to do with Georgia?


somebody is making a comment comparing school shootings with active combat.

No, someone is comparing the casualties suffered by US troops posted to warzones around the world to the casualties suffered by US students posted to schools around America.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun May 20, 2018 4:27 pm

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How many times do I need to say it, preventing crazy people from buying guns is not and never will be taking guns away from people who already bought them.

I have never advocated for that. Ever. And I never will.

But other gun control advocates have, and that's the problem.


How is that my problem that other people who have vaguely same stance as me have radically different ideas of how to go about it?

I'm not responsible for them.

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Postby Uxupox » Sun May 20, 2018 4:28 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
You might have not noticed but in Afghanistan (Since the operational role right now of the US armed forces in Iraq is minor with just advisory roles to the south near Basra which now is considered a "station" instead of an actual deployment) the United States has taken more of an advisory role with their deployment of SFAB (Or Security Force Assistance Brigade) which their only job there is to conduct training, advising and assisting. They are in no circumstances expected to fight and in fact have let Afghani Soldiers take control of all combat operations within their sector. You are more likely to get shot in a green on blue incident then ever engaging the Taliban.

...so your issue is that soldiers are being killed in warzones, and not that a larger number of American students are being killed in American schools. Gotcha.


no i'm taking your asinine comparison between Active combat of the United States armed forces in the current time period with stateside school shootings and applying actual facts on it.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun May 20, 2018 4:28 pm

Telconi wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Federal law enforcement and maybe making sure that crazy people don't get guns?


You realize that already happens right?


You and WRA have made it abundantly clear that that doesn't always happen with your refusal to conduct BGCs for private transfers.

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Postby The Lone Alliance » Sun May 20, 2018 4:28 pm

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You: "You should sit down at the table and agree to give up some of your rights in order to make stupid people feel safer!"
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It's like Republicans complaining that the Democrats did nothing to back the GOP tax cuts.
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Postby Uxupox » Sun May 20, 2018 4:30 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
You might have not noticed but in Afghanistan (Since the operational role right now of the US armed forces in Iraq is minor with just advisory roles to the south near Basra which now is considered a "station" instead of an actual deployment) the United States has taken more of an advisory role with their deployment of SFAB (Or Security Force Assistance Brigade) which their only job there is to conduct training, advising and assisting. They are in no circumstances expected to fight and in fact have let Afghani Soldiers take control of all combat operations within their sector. You are more likely to get shot in a green on blue incident then ever engaging the Taliban.


But all troops who go there will still get the Afghanistan medal. Perhaps you should offer something similar to all kids that survive high school. :)


medals are literal worthless when you come home in a body bag.
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Postby Senkaku » Sun May 20, 2018 4:30 pm

Uxupox wrote:
Senkaku wrote:...so your issue is that soldiers are being killed in warzones, and not that a larger number of American students are being killed in American schools. Gotcha.


no i'm taking your asinine comparison between Active combat of the United States armed forces in the current time period with stateside school shootings and applying actual facts on it.

So again- your problem is with the fact that American troops deployed in warzones around the world are being killed, and not with the fact that American students in American schools are being killed in larger numbers.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun May 20, 2018 4:30 pm

Uxupox wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
What does Afghanistan have to do with Georgia?


somebody is making a comment comparing school shootings with active combat.


So mass shooter morons make the US look like Afghanistan?

Why should high school students have to do the job of a solder? Why are American high schools like war torn Afghanistan?

Telconi wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Federal law enforcement and maybe making sure that crazy people don't get guns?


You realize that already happens right?


Not frequently enough.

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Postby Senkaku » Sun May 20, 2018 4:30 pm

Uxupox wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
But all troops who go there will still get the Afghanistan medal. Perhaps you should offer something similar to all kids that survive high school. :)


medals are literal worthless when you come home in a body bag.

Yeah, well, so are diplomas.
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Postby Uxupox » Sun May 20, 2018 4:31 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
somebody is making a comment comparing school shootings with active combat.

No, someone is comparing the casualties suffered by US troops posted to warzones around the world to the casualties suffered by US students posted to schools around America.


if you consider staying at the 4 star hotel known as Bagram air force base then sure. it's a warzone.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun May 20, 2018 4:31 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:But other gun control advocates have, and that's the problem.


How is that my problem that other people who have vaguely same stance as me have radically different ideas of how to go about it?

I'm not responsible for them.

Yet it's okay to punish all gun owners for the actions of a bad few...
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Postby Uxupox » Sun May 20, 2018 4:31 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
somebody is making a comment comparing school shootings with active combat.


So mass shooter morons make the US look like Afghanistan?

Why should high school students have to do the job of a solder? Why are American high schools like war torn Afghanistan?


Telconi wrote:
You realize that already happens right?


Not frequently enough.


if you read the comment I made. It's completely not.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun May 20, 2018 4:34 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
How is that my problem that other people who have vaguely same stance as me have radically different ideas of how to go about it?

I'm not responsible for them.

Yet it's okay to punish all gun owners for the actions of a bad few...

Again, I didn't say that or want to do that.

I just want the crazy people who want guns to shoot up a place to not get guns in the first place.

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