Breaking: Georgia USA Shooting

[Australian rePublic]

http://www.news.com.au/world/georgia-hi ... 219eb65553

Another USA school shooting in the past 24 hours when shots were fired in the parking lot of a Zion High School in Georgia during a graduation ceremony. This incident is unraveling now, but so far, we have 3 people shot, one of which is a pregnant lady. Of the three who were shot, one died and another is injured. Is this even news anymore?

[Thermodolia]

http://www.news.com.au/world/georgia-high-school-shooting-zion-high-graduation-ceremony-targeted/news-story/dbedd4bca27381e8148f10219eb65553

Another USA school shooting in the past 24 hours when shots were fired in the parking lot of a Zion High School in Georgia during a graduation ceremony. This incident is unraveling now, but so far, we have 3 people shot, one of which is a pregnant lady. Of the three who were shot, one died and another is injured

Why is this news? It’s not a school shooting. Far from it. It’s most likely some idiot parent has a beef with someone or it’s gang related. It’s Clayton county for Gods sake.

It’s just another shooting in the Atlanta Metro

[Australian rePublic]

http://www.news.com.au/world/georgia-high-school-shooting-zion-high-graduation-ceremony-targeted/news-story/dbedd4bca27381e8148f10219eb65553

Another USA school shooting in the past 24 hours when shots were fired in the parking lot of a Zion High School in Georgia during a graduation ceremony. This incident is unraveling now, but so far, we have 3 people shot, one of which is a pregnant lady. Of the three who were shot, one died and another is injured

Why is this news? It’s not a school shooting. Far from it. It’s most likely some idiot parent has a beef with someone or it’s gang related. It’s Clayton county for Gods sake.

It’s just another shooting in the Atlanta Metro

So in addition to school shootings, we got regular shootings that aren't even news? You guys have got a real problem with violence

[Thermodolia]

Why is this news? It’s not a school shooting. Far from it. It’s most likely some idiot parent has a beef with someone or it’s gang related. It’s Clayton county for Gods sake.

It’s just another shooting in the Atlanta Metro

So in addition to school shootings, we got regular shootings that aren't even news? You guys have got a real problem with violence

It’s called living in a big city dude. You should try it. The gangs don’t mess around

[Australian rePublic]

So in addition to school shootings, we got regular shootings that aren't even news? You guys have got a real problem with violence

It’s called living in a big city dude. You should try it. The gangs don’t mess around

I have lived in the bighest city in Oceania my whole life. And here metro population is similar to Atlanta's too

[Great Minarchistan]

Why is this news? It’s not a school shooting. Far from it. It’s most likely some idiot parent has a beef with someone or it’s gang related. It’s Clayton county for Gods sake.

It’s just another shooting in the Atlanta Metro

So in addition to school shootings, we got regular shootings that aren't even news? You guys have got a real problem with violence

They are regular solely because US has 325 million people. Truthfully, when you analyze the risks:

Students killed by school shootings since 2012: 150 (25 yearly on average)
Number of students in the US: 50 million
Yearly risk of being killed through a school shooting, as a student: 0.5 micromort
Average walking distance to school: 5km (2000km a year, considering 200 school days and going back home)
Risk of being killed by walking 1000km: 44 micromorts
2000km = 88 micromorts

In other words, a student is 170 times more likely to die while walking his way to school and back home than being killed by a school shooting. Really makes you think, huh?

[Cannot think of a name]

So in addition to school shootings, we got regular shootings that aren't even news? You guys have got a real problem with violence

They are regular solely because US has 325 million people. Truthfully, when you analyze the risks:

Students killed by school shootings since 2012: 150 (25 yearly on average)
Number of students in the US: 50 million
Yearly risk of being killed through a school shooting, as a student: 0.5 micromort
Average walking distance to school: 5km (2000km a year, considering 200 school days and going back home)
Risk of being killed by walking 1000km: 44 micromorts
2000km = 88 micromorts

In other words, a student is 170 times more likely to die while walking his way to school and back home than being killed by a school shooting. Really makes you think, huh?

That if you try and turn tragedy to a statistic you can be flippantly dismissive of loss?

[Pope Joan]

School parking lots do not seem to be considered "school" it seems.

When I drove a school bus, nobody did anything about the beatings that went on once a week or more in those parking lots.

They had armed guards too, but they all stayed inside.

[Mystic Warriors]

I want to see a comparison on these between red and blue states.

[Petrolheadia]

So in addition to school shootings, we got regular shootings that aren't even news? You guys have got a real problem with violence

It’s called living in a big city dude. You should try it. The gangs don’t mess around

It's called living in a big US South city.

Spent some of my life in Warsaw (over a million people), and being shot was the least of my worries.
Likely because you need a gun permit in Poland.

So in addition to school shootings, we got regular shootings that aren't even news? You guys have got a real problem with violence

They are regular solely because US has 325 million people. Truthfully, when you analyze the risks:

Students killed by school shootings since 2012: 150 (25 yearly on average)
Number of students in the US: 50 million
Yearly risk of being killed through a school shooting, as a student: 0.5 micromort
Average walking distance to school: 5km (2000km a year, considering 200 school days and going back home)
Risk of being killed by walking 1000km: 44 micromorts
2000km = 88 micromorts

In other words, a student is 170 times more likely to die while walking his way to school and back home than being killed by a school shooting. Really makes you think, huh?

In other words, let's let them die because their deaths are unlikely?

I think I'm going to spray a huge density of concentrated farts in somebody's apartment and claim they were more likely to die walking.

[Petrolheadia]

I want to see a comparison on these between red and blue states.

As you wish.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_d ... s_by_state
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_sta ... lue_states

In the top 10, there is only 1 blue state (NM, #9), and only one purple state (and no red) in the bottom 10 (Iowa, #41).

[Thermodolia]

They are regular solely because US has 325 million people. Truthfully, when you analyze the risks:

Students killed by school shootings since 2012: 150 (25 yearly on average)
Number of students in the US: 50 million
Yearly risk of being killed through a school shooting, as a student: 0.5 micromort
Average walking distance to school: 5km (2000km a year, considering 200 school days and going back home)
Risk of being killed by walking 1000km: 44 micromorts
2000km = 88 micromorts

In other words, a student is 170 times more likely to die while walking his way to school and back home than being killed by a school shooting. Really makes you think, huh?

That if you try and turn tragedy to a statistic you can be flippantly dismissive of loss?

It’s also not a school shooting as while it happened near a school it didn’t happen on school property. It’s not a school shooting

[Thermodolia]

It’s called living in a big city dude. You should try it. The gangs don’t mess around

It's called living in a big US South city.

Spent some of my life in Warsaw (over a million people), and being shot was the least of my worries.
Likely because you need a gun permit in Poland.

I’m never worried about being shot. This wasn’t a school shooting dude. Most likely it was gang crime.

And I don’t believe you if you don’t have any gun related crimes, hell even in London and Liverpool people get shot. So it’s not just a US south thing.

[Petrolheadia]

It's called living in a big US South city.

Spent some of my life in Warsaw (over a million people), and being shot was the least of my worries.
Likely because you need a gun permit in Poland.

I’m never worried about being shot. This wasn’t a school shooting dude. Most likely it was gang crime.

And I don’t believe you if you don’t have any gun related crimes.

Do people get shot in Poland? Yes.

Do people in Poland, even in the worst neighbourhoods, have to fear being shot? Hell no.

Does Poland have less than a sixth of the US homicide rate? Yeah.

US South - so far down the gun crime shithole, some can't comprehend not having that violence.

[Thermodolia]

I want to see a comparison on these between red and blue states.

As you wish.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_d ... s_by_state
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_sta ... lue_states

In the top 10, there is only 1 blue state (NM, #9), and only one purple state (and no red) in the bottom 10 (Iowa, #41).

Are you getting that information from the one about accidental gun deaths? Or the one about murders? Because I’m terms of murders DC which is blue ranks #1, IL isn’t far behind, as is CA.

But either way bringing politics, especially the whole red state/blue state thing into this is dumb. It doesn’t help anything and only further helps polarization. So congrats on being part of the problem

[Petrolheadia]

As you wish.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_d ... s_by_state
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_sta ... lue_states

In the top 10, there is only 1 blue state (NM, #9), and only one purple state (and no red) in the bottom 10 (Iowa, #41).

Are you getting that information from the one about accidental gun deaths? Or the one about murders? Because I’m terms of murders DC which is blue ranks #1, IL isn’t far behind, as is CA.

A shot guy is a shot guy.

But either way bringing politics, especially the whole red state/blue state thing into this is dumb. It doesn’t help anything and only further helps polarization. So congrats on being part of the problem

The problem is guns, and the states having problems with noticing that are a part of it.

[Thermodolia]

I’m never worried about being shot. This wasn’t a school shooting dude. Most likely it was gang crime.

And I don’t believe you if you don’t have any gun related crimes.

Do people get shot in Poland? Yes.

Do people in Poland, even in the worst neighbourhoods, have to fear being shot? Hell no.

Does Poland have less than a sixth of the US homicide rate? Yeah.

US South - so far down the gun crime shithole, some can't comprehend not having that violence.

If you think the US South is bad then you should go to the US north. Go to Chicago, New York, Philadelphia, Baltimore, and DC. There are close to five hundred murders a year in Chicago, Atlanta only had 33. The Atlanta Metro only had 100, but the Chicago Metro’s number skyrockets to 700.

There are entire neighborhoods of Chicago that the police won’t go into in Chicago. The only city that could possibly come close in the US south is Miami. And don’t forget that LA is a crime shithole as you put it. Gun murders are so fucking common in Chicago that the local news hardly reports on any murder that doesn’t involve three or more people.

So check yourself before you wreck yourself

[Petrolheadia]

Do people get shot in Poland? Yes.

Do people in Poland, even in the worst neighbourhoods, have to fear being shot? Hell no.

Does Poland have less than a sixth of the US homicide rate? Yeah.

US South - so far down the gun crime shithole, some can't comprehend not having that violence.

If you think the US South is bad then you should go to the US north. Go to Chicago, New York, Philadelphia, Baltimore, and DC. There are close to five hundred murders a year in Chicago, Atlanta only had 33. The Atlanta Metro only had 100, but the Chicago Metro’s number skyrockets to 700.

There are entire neighborhoods of Chicago that the police won’t go into in Chicago. The only city that could possibly come close in the US south is Miami. And don’t forget that LA is a crime shithole as you put it. Gun murders are so fucking common in Chicago that the local news hardly reports on any murder that doesn’t involve three or more people.

So check yourself before you wreck yourself

Ah, so these problems are spread all througj the country? Great to know.

[Thermodolia]

Are you getting that information from the one about accidental gun deaths? Or the one about murders? Because I’m terms of murders DC which is blue ranks #1, IL isn’t far behind, as is CA.

A shot guy is a shot guy.

No it’s not. Unless you want to be a manipulative person.

There’s a big difference between an accident, suicide, and murder. The fucking law recognizes it, the people taking the stats recognize it. Apparently you don’t because then you don’t get to claim that it’s a national issue and just a red state one. So you’re being manipulative.

But either way bringing politics, especially the whole red state/blue state thing into this is dumb. It doesn’t help anything and only further helps polarization. So congrats on being part of the problem

The problem is guns, and the states having problems with noticing that are a part of it.

If that was the case Chicago, DC, and LA wouldn’t be always in the top 10 most dangerous cities in the US list. Because each one of them has attempted to ban guns but it hasn’t worked.

[Petrolheadia]

A shot guy is a shot guy.

No it’s not. Unless you want to be a manipulative person.

There’s a big difference between an accident, suicide, and murder. The fucking law recognizes it, the people taking the stats recognize it. Apparently you don’t because then you don’t get to claim that it’s a national issue and just a red state one. So you’re being manipulative.

I'm talking about guns being a problem in general - and they are a key element of all those things.

The problem is guns, and the states having problems with noticing that are a part of it.

If that was the case Chicago, DC, and LA wouldn’t be always in the top 10 most dangerous cities in the US list. Because each one of them has attempted to ban guns but it hasn’t worked.

It can't when there is already a ton of guns in the cities, and they can be hauled in from somewhere else, assembled from parts or bought online.

[Australian rePublic]

It's called living in a big US South city.

Spent some of my life in Warsaw (over a million people), and being shot was the least of my worries.
Likely because you need a gun permit in Poland.

I’m never worried about being shot. This wasn’t a school shooting dude. Most likely it was gang crime.

And I don’t believe you if you don’t have any gun related crimes, hell even in London and Liverpool people get shot. So it’s not just a US south thing.

Does Sydney have crime? Yes
Does Sydney have gun crime? Yes
Is gun crime such a common occurance that it's "just another part of living in a city", f$$k no

[Australian rePublic]

Do people get shot in Poland? Yes.

Do people in Poland, even in the worst neighbourhoods, have to fear being shot? Hell no.

Does Poland have less than a sixth of the US homicide rate? Yeah.

US South - so far down the gun crime shithole, some can't comprehend not having that violence.

If you think the US South is bad then you should go to the US north. Go to Chicago, New York, Philadelphia, Baltimore, and DC. There are close to five hundred murders a year in Chicago, Atlanta only had 33. The Atlanta Metro only had 100, but the Chicago Metro’s number skyrockets to 700.

There are entire neighborhoods of Chicago that the police won’t go into in Chicago. The only city that could possibly come close in the US south is Miami. And don’t forget that LA is a crime shithole as you put it. Gun murders are so fucking common in Chicago that the local news hardly reports on any murder that doesn’t involve three or more people.

So check yourself before you wreck yourself

Numbers mean nothing. Come back to me with per capita

[Uxupox]

If you think the US South is bad then you should go to the US north. Go to Chicago, New York, Philadelphia, Baltimore, and DC. There are close to five hundred murders a year in Chicago, Atlanta only had 33. The Atlanta Metro only had 100, but the Chicago Metro’s number skyrockets to 700.

There are entire neighborhoods of Chicago that the police won’t go into in Chicago. The only city that could possibly come close in the US south is Miami. And don’t forget that LA is a crime shithole as you put it. Gun murders are so fucking common in Chicago that the local news hardly reports on any murder that doesn’t involve three or more people.

So check yourself before you wreck yourself

Numbers mean nothing. Come back to me with per capita

sure.

[Thermodolia]

No it’s not. Unless you want to be a manipulative person.

There’s a big difference between an accident, suicide, and murder. The fucking law recognizes it, the people taking the stats recognize it. Apparently you don’t because then you don’t get to claim that it’s a national issue and just a red state one. So you’re being manipulative.

I'm talking about guns being a problem in general - and they are a key element of all those things.

If that was the case Chicago, DC, and LA wouldn’t be always in the top 10 most dangerous cities in the US list. Because each one of them has attempted to ban guns but it hasn’t worked.

It can't when there is already a ton of guns in the cities, and they can be hauled in from somewhere else, assembled from parts or bought online.

We have a thread for gun control. This honestly should have been posted there as it’s not a school shooting. As it didn’t happen on school grounds

[Australian rePublic]

I'm talking about guns being a problem in general - and they are a key element of all those things.


It can't when there is already a ton of guns in the cities, and they can be hauled in from somewhere else, assembled from parts or bought online.

We have a thread for gun control. This honestly should have been posted there as it’s not a school shooting. As it didn’t happen on school grounds

Claiming that the school's carpark is like claiming that mynaturestrip isn't my land. Whilst it technically isn't, anyone could reasonably suggest it's close enough
Also, I am not an expert on USA convincing laws, and do not know which land belongs to which property. Any reasonable person would suggest that it's school land
Also also, I hear "school shooting" on the news, I report as such