10 dead in Santa Fe High Shooting in Santa Fe, Tx

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Music is freedom of speech so leave it alone.

Better family raising and better culture and a environment would be better.

Not saying banning it. I'm saying stop promoting it everywhere. It literal tells you to go out an shoot a nigga (As per 21 savage word's).

And they said that metal and rock and roll where going to make everyone into satanists.

So far, Christianity remands dominant in the united states.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Music is freedom of speech so leave it alone.

Better family raising and better culture and a environment would be better.

But you're the one calling for a reduction in gang culture glorification. Certain genres glorify gang culture. Why not start there? I mean, family life is also free expression.

How do you change the environment for families who live in dangerous places? How do you change mindframes of generations? I agree that we must strive to enact change here, but how do you go on about it?

Because freedom of speech overrides that.

Investment in the police and teachers. Friendlier non raciest cops and better teaching of children so that they don't go into a gang.

[Uxupox]

Not saying banning it. I'm saying stop promoting it everywhere. It literal tells you to go out an shoot a nigga (As per 21 savage word's).

And they said that metal and rock and roll where going to make everyone into satanists.

So far, Christianity remands dominant in the united states.

lol.

[Uxupox]

But you're the one calling for a reduction in gang culture glorification. Certain genres glorify gang culture. Why not start there? I mean, family life is also free expression.

How do you change the environment for families who live in dangerous places? How do you change mindframes of generations? I agree that we must strive to enact change here, but how do you go on about it?

Because freedom of speech overrides that.

Investment in the police and teachers. Friendlier non raciest cops and better teaching of children so that they don't go into a gang.

"friendlier cops". that isn't how one is inducted into gangs. it's because you want something either that being some quick cash, you want in a group(camaraderie) or just want to have some fun.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

But you're the one calling for a reduction in gang culture glorification. Certain genres glorify gang culture. Why not start there? I mean, family life is also free expression.

How do you change the environment for families who live in dangerous places? How do you change mindframes of generations? I agree that we must strive to enact change here, but how do you go on about it?

Because freedom of speech overrides that.

Investment in the police and teachers. Friendlier non raciest cops and better teaching of children so that they don't go into a gang.

But that's at state level. How do you control the rest of the environment? What do you do for social changes that start in the bossom of the home? Because, you see, in the US, very often, gang life is a family or neighborhood thing. Breaking the cycle is very difficult.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

And they said that metal and rock and roll where going to make everyone into satanists.

So far, Christianity remands dominant in the united states.

lol.

Lazy good for nothing rock stars.

Except no.

[Uxupox]

lol.

Lazy good for nothing rock stars.

Except no.

you don't even begin to understand how it really is. it's ingrained into our culture. that's exactly what the lyrics is about. heck bobby shmurda got caught killing somebody recently and that's normalcy.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

First three are related to health (Heart, Cancer then chronic respiratory diseases) then comes motor vehicle fatalities (which is lumped up in accidental injuries as well).

In 2016 there were 37,461 deaths due to motor vehicle crashes. How many gun deaths were there?

38,658

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Lazy good for nothing rock stars.

Except no.

you don't even begin to understand how it really is. it's ingrained into our culture. that's exactly what the lyrics is about. heck bobby shmurda got caught killing somebody recently and that's normalcy.

Precisely.

I get your point, Derps, but I'm not sure you get the complexity. We certainly need change, but it's not just a matter of "friendlier" cops and education. Those would certainly help, but this issue is more nuanced.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Lazy good for nothing rock stars.

Except no.

you don't even begin to understand how it really is. it's ingrained into our culture. that's exactly what the lyrics is about. heck bobby shmurda got caught killing somebody recently and that's normalcy.

And the lyrics of this metal song are about suicide bombings.

How many suicide bombers has Powerwolf made? None.

How many thunder gods has Amon Amarth / Sabaton made? 0.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

you don't even begin to understand how it really is. it's ingrained into our culture. that's exactly what the lyrics is about. heck bobby shmurda got caught killing somebody recently and that's normalcy.

And the lyrics of this metal song are about suicide bombings.

How many suicide bombers has Powerwolf made? None.

How many thunder gods has Amon Amarth / Sabaton made? 0.

Nobody listens to Powerwolf. Everybody listens to Kanye West.

[Vassenor]

First three are related to health (Heart, Cancer then chronic respiratory diseases) then comes motor vehicle fatalities (which is lumped up in accidental injuries as well).

In 2016 there were 37,461 deaths due to motor vehicle crashes. How many gun deaths were there?

38,658 according to the CDC.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

And the lyrics of this metal song are about suicide bombings.

How many suicide bombers has Powerwolf made? None.

How many thunder gods has Amon Amarth / Sabaton made? 0.

Nobody listens to Powerwolf. Everybody listens to Kanye West.

Your not standing for Christ and Combat Heretic?

[Uxupox]

you don't even begin to understand how it really is. it's ingrained into our culture. that's exactly what the lyrics is about. heck bobby shmurda got caught killing somebody recently and that's normalcy.

And the lyrics of this metal song are about suicide bombings.

How many suicide bombers has Powerwolf made? None.

How many thunder gods has Amon Amarth / Sabaton made? 0.

that's not a cultural aspect. Dude you are not african american so you will never understand. That's simply how it is.

[Vassenor]

Let's put the statistic another way.

Going to school in the US has been deadlier in 2018 than serving in the military.

[Geneviev]

Let's put the statistic another way.

Going to school in the US has been deadlier in 2018 than serving in the military.

And then adults wonder why I'm scared to go to school.

That shouldn't be surprising. Now we should get to solutions.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

you don't even begin to understand how it really is. it's ingrained into our culture. that's exactly what the lyrics is about. heck bobby shmurda got caught killing somebody recently and that's normalcy.

Precisely.

I get your point, Derps, but I'm not sure you get the complexity. We certainly need change, but it's not just a matter of "friendlier" cops and education. Those would certainly help, but this issue is more nuanced.

But the reasoning to stop promoting rap is the same reason why people should stop supporting metal, rock and video games.

That reasoning is to sensor artists.

Criticize to hell and back there music if you must, but don't blame them for deaths.

If music was responsible then why hasn't there been 9,209,607 short Texans shooting nazis in Italy?

[Uxupox]

Let's put the statistic another way.

Going to school in the US has been deadlier in 2018 than serving in the military.

that is a really bad news-story made by washington post.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Let's put the statistic another way.

Going to school in the US has been deadlier in 2018 than serving in the military.

That shouldn't be surprising. Now we should get to solutions.

Merely banning guns won't solve it (although it would make killing a bit harder, but it will just turn perps to other means to cause death). Violence starts from the ground up, so it's a social and familial issue.

[Sovaal]

That shouldn't be surprising. Now we should get to solutions.

Merely banning guns won't solve it (although it would make killing a bit harder, but it will just turn perps to other means to cause death). Violence starts from the ground up, so it's a social and familial issue.

Banning guns wouldnt do shit because there’s already so many out there.
Banning assault weapons wouldn’t do shit because this kid if I’ve heard correctly didn’t use any.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

And the lyrics of this metal song are about suicide bombings.

How many suicide bombers has Powerwolf made? None.

How many thunder gods has Amon Amarth / Sabaton made? 0.

that's not a cultural aspect. Dude you are not african american so you will never understand. That's simply how it is.

It isn't cultural?

Explain Hevisaurus, a Finnish metal kids band.

Looks like Finnish culture.

Also Thor is a part of Scandinavian culture.

How many Swedes have claim them self's to be the Thunder god thanks to Sabaton?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Precisely.

I get your point, Derps, but I'm not sure you get the complexity. We certainly need change, but it's not just a matter of "friendlier" cops and education. Those would certainly help, but this issue is more nuanced.

But the reasoning to stop promoting rap is the same reason why people should stop supporting metal, rock and video games.

That reasoning is to sensor artists.

Criticize to hell and back there music if you must, but don't blame them for deaths.

If music was responsible then why hasn't there been 9,209,607 short Texans shooting nazis in Italy?

Don't be so simplistic and focus on music. I'm merely going by your gong ho attitude. In a culture where violence is so prevalent, even in music but not just that, how do you really enact change? You mentioned police and education, ok. And what about the other contributing factors?

This is very prevalent in certain communities. Merely banning guns won't solve it. It's a start but hardly the solution.

[Uxupox]

that's not a cultural aspect. Dude you are not african american so you will never understand. That's simply how it is.

It isn't cultural?

Explain Hevisaurus, a Finnish metal kids band.

Looks like Finnish culture.

Also Thor is a part of Scandinavian culture.

How many Swedes have claim them self's to be the Thunder god thanks to Sabaton?

are you really diminishing african-american slave culture by comparing it to an European one that got demolished almost a millenia ago?

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Let's put the statistic another way.

Going to school in the US has been deadlier in 2018 than serving in the military.

We're the greatest military on Earth so that's understandable. Good job on staying safe fellow service members.

Also

The figures for 2018 do not suggest schools are more dangerous than combat zones. After all, there are more than 50 million students in public elementary and high schools and only about 1.3 million members of the armed forces. So far in 2018, a member of the military has been about 40 times as likely to be killed as someone is to die in a school shooting, including Keller’s revised figures.

Sorta puts a hole in the narrative you're trying to push.

[Uxupox]

Let's put the statistic another way.

Going to school in the US has been deadlier in 2018 than serving in the military.

We're the greatest military on Earth so that's understandable. Good job on staying safe fellow service members.

The figures for 2018 do not suggest schools are more dangerous than combat zones. After all, there are more than 50 million students in public elementary and high schools and only about 1.3 million members of the armed forces. So far in 2018, a member of the military has been about 40 times as likely to be killed as someone is to die in a school shooting, including Keller’s revised figures.

the real percentage is something like 50 million students, 1.3 million military members. .000058% of students killed, .001% of military killed.