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Postby Petrolheadia » Sat May 19, 2018 7:15 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:And drunk driving is a minority of all driving.

That does not mean we should not try to stop it.

Why don't you try banning cars then if banning shit is the solution?

"Muh necessity"
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Not arguments.

TFW your arguments are so good, people don't even want to face them being arguments.
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Postby Uxupox » Sat May 19, 2018 7:15 am

Geneviev wrote:Here's another idea to prevent school shootings without any gun control laws at all: Better mental health support (three beds? Really?) and improving public schools. That should make both sides happy because you get to keep your guns and there's real action to prevent shootings.


How about we also add to that things as stop promoting gang culture, glorifying violence and other aspects related?
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sat May 19, 2018 7:17 am

Petrolheadia wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Why don't you try banning cars then if banning shit is the solution?

"Muh necessity"
"Muh not made to kill"

Not arguments.

TFW your arguments are so good, people don't even want to face them being arguments.

They're not even arguments though. They're flimsy argument simulations.

Whenever somebody brings up cars they are invariably the two statements that come up, but a bit of critical thinking defeats them faster than a 150-car pile-up.
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Postby Geneviev » Sat May 19, 2018 7:17 am

Uxupox wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Here's another idea to prevent school shootings without any gun control laws at all: Better mental health support (three beds? Really?) and improving public schools. That should make both sides happy because you get to keep your guns and there's real action to prevent shootings.


How about we also add to that things as stop promoting gang culture, glorifying violence and other aspects related?

Might as well add a policy of not making shooter's names public.
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Postby Uxupox » Sat May 19, 2018 7:18 am

Petrolheadia wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Why don't you try banning cars then if banning shit is the solution?

"Muh necessity"
"Muh not made to kill"

Not arguments.

TFW your arguments are so good, people don't even want to face them being arguments.


i mean he is not wrong. Motor Vehicle fatality is one of the top leading causes of death across the United States.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sat May 19, 2018 7:19 am

Uxupox wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:TFW your arguments are so good, people don't even want to face them being arguments.


i mean he is not wrong. Motor Vehicle fatality is one of the top leading causes of death across the United States.

And they're not even meant to kill. And somehow guns are more dangerous.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat May 19, 2018 7:20 am

Geneviev wrote:Here's another idea to prevent school shootings without any gun control laws at all: Better mental health support (three beds? Really?) and improving public schools. That should make both sides happy because you get to keep your guns and there's real action to prevent shootings.


But that would cost actual money and the Small Gubmint crowd won't like that.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat May 19, 2018 7:20 am

Uxupox wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Here's another idea to prevent school shootings without any gun control laws at all: Better mental health support (three beds? Really?) and improving public schools. That should make both sides happy because you get to keep your guns and there's real action to prevent shootings.


How about we also add to that things as stop promoting gang culture, glorifying violence and other aspects related?


When have we been promoting gang culture? Schools like my high school baned any red or blue bandanas beacuse of the bloods and the crips.

Stoping glorifying violence would start with the destruction of click bait news, and stoping the continued negativity of the news story's.

So basically everything I hate about modern journalism and I would be ok with that.

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Postby Geneviev » Sat May 19, 2018 7:21 am

Vassenor wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Here's another idea to prevent school shootings without any gun control laws at all: Better mental health support (three beds? Really?) and improving public schools. That should make both sides happy because you get to keep your guns and there's real action to prevent shootings.


But that would cost actual money and the Small Gubmint crowd won't like that.

Then they'll have to do something else. Take the money from somewhere else.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat May 19, 2018 7:21 am

Uxupox wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:TFW your arguments are so good, people don't even want to face them being arguments.


i mean he is not wrong. Motor Vehicle fatality is one of the top leading causes of death across the United States.


It really isn't. Go look up the numbers.

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Postby Ors Might » Sat May 19, 2018 7:21 am

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Geneviev wrote:Here's another idea to prevent school shootings without any gun control laws at all: Better mental health support (three beds? Really?) and improving public schools. That should make both sides happy because you get to keep your guns and there's real action to prevent shootings.

^this^

We need mental health everywhere.

Agreed.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat May 19, 2018 7:23 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
How about we also add to that things as stop promoting gang culture, glorifying violence and other aspects related?


When have we been promoting gang culture? Schools like my high school baned any red or blue bandanas beacuse of the bloods and the crips.

Stoping glorifying violence would start with the destruction of click bait news, and stoping the continued negativity of the news story's.

So basically everything I hate about modern journalism and I would be ok with that.


Gang culture is also promoted by music, family, culture and environment. You can't always police those.
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Postby Uxupox » Sat May 19, 2018 7:24 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
How about we also add to that things as stop promoting gang culture, glorifying violence and other aspects related?


When have we been promoting gang culture? Schools like my high school baned any red or blue bandanas beacuse of the bloods and the crips.

Stoping glorifying violence would start with the destruction of click bait news, and stoping the continued negativity of the news story's.

So basically everything I hate about modern journalism and I would be ok with that.


um... have you listened to trap and seen how popular that culture is?

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Uxupox wrote:
i mean he is not wrong. Motor Vehicle fatality is one of the top leading causes of death across the United States.


It really isn't. Go look up the numbers.


First three are related to health (Heart, Cancer then chronic respiratory diseases) then comes motor vehicle fatalities (which is lumped up in accidental injuries as well).
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sat May 19, 2018 7:24 am

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Uxupox wrote:
i mean he is not wrong. Motor Vehicle fatality is one of the top leading causes of death across the United States.


It really isn't. Go look up the numbers.

*Rolls eyes* Besides like fifteen diseases and suicide.
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Postby Geneviev » Sat May 19, 2018 7:25 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Here's another idea to prevent school shootings without any gun control laws at all: Better mental health support (three beds? Really?) and improving public schools. That should make both sides happy because you get to keep your guns and there's real action to prevent shootings.

^this^

We need mental health everywhere.

Yes, yes we do.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat May 19, 2018 7:25 am

Ors Might wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:^this^

We need mental health everywhere.

Agreed.


https://www.theatlantic.com/health/arch ... gs/541965/

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Postby Vassenor » Sat May 19, 2018 7:25 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
i mean he is not wrong. Motor Vehicle fatality is one of the top leading causes of death across the United States.


It really isn't. Go look up the numbers.


The top ten being, in decreasing order, Heart disease, Cancer, Chronic lower respiratory disease, Accidents in general (not just Motor Vehicle Accidents), Stroke, Alzheimer's disease, Diabetes, Influenza and pneumonia, Kidney disease, and Suicide.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat May 19, 2018 7:25 am

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
When have we been promoting gang culture? Schools like my high school baned any red or blue bandanas beacuse of the bloods and the crips.

Stoping glorifying violence would start with the destruction of click bait news, and stoping the continued negativity of the news story's.

So basically everything I hate about modern journalism and I would be ok with that.


Gang culture is also promoted by music, family, culture and environment. You can't always police those.


Music is freedom of speech so leave it alone.

Better family raising and better culture and a environment would be better.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat May 19, 2018 7:26 am

Uxupox wrote:First three are related to health (Heart, Cancer then chronic respiratory diseases) then comes motor vehicle fatalities (which is lumped up in accidental injuries as well).


In 2016 there were 37,461 deaths due to motor vehicle crashes. How many gun deaths were there?

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Postby Uxupox » Sat May 19, 2018 7:27 am

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Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Gang culture is also promoted by music, family, culture and environment. You can't always police those.


Music is freedom of speech so leave it alone.

Better family raising and better culture and a environment would be better.


Not saying banning it. I'm saying stop promoting it everywhere. It literal tells you to go out an shoot a nigga (As per 21 savage word's).
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat May 19, 2018 7:27 am

Uxupox wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
When have we been promoting gang culture? Schools like my high school baned any red or blue bandanas beacuse of the bloods and the crips.

Stoping glorifying violence would start with the destruction of click bait news, and stoping the continued negativity of the news story's.

So basically everything I hate about modern journalism and I would be ok with that.


um... have you listened to trap and seen how popular that culture is?


It's also freedom of speech so you can't touch it.

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Postby Ors Might » Sat May 19, 2018 7:27 am


It wouldn’t prevent all shootings, no, but better mental healthcare is one of those things that’s just good. But considering how many gun fatalities in the US are suicides, it’d still help a whole lot.
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Postby Uxupox » Sat May 19, 2018 7:28 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
Uxupox wrote:First three are related to health (Heart, Cancer then chronic respiratory diseases) then comes motor vehicle fatalities (which is lumped up in accidental injuries as well).


In 2016 there were 37,461 deaths due to motor vehicle crashes. How many gun deaths were there?


if you count suicides and stupidity by the handling of a weapon then its around 38,000.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat May 19, 2018 7:29 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Gang culture is also promoted by music, family, culture and environment. You can't always police those.


Music is freedom of speech so leave it alone.

Better family raising and better culture and a environment would be better.


But you're the one calling for a reduction in gang culture glorification. Certain genres glorify gang culture. Why not start there? I mean, family life is also free expression.

How do you change the environment for families who live in dangerous places? How do you change mindframes of generations? I agree that we must strive to enact change here, but how do you go on about it?
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Postby Geneviev » Sat May 19, 2018 7:29 am


Good for all Americans, firstly, including myself. Secondly, better mental health support would be better for preventing suicides. Reduced gun deaths in general.
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