10 dead in Santa Fe High Shooting in Santa Fe, Tx

[Washington Resistance Army]

There are no compromises. What do I get for agreeing to further gun control? The answer is nothing, the other side offers us nothing to try and bring us to the table.

I'll be honest, we don't know what you want for a comprise.

I'd be ok with homemade flame throwers nation wide in return for crazy bois not getting guns.

I just want the shootings to stop.

Real flamethrowers are already legal at the federal level.

[Paddy O Fernature]

I'll be honest, we don't know what you want for a comprise.

I'd be ok with homemade flame throwers nation wide in return for crazy bois not getting guns.

I just want the shootings to stop.

We don't want to compromise. We want you people to leave us alone.

Fucking this!

Try targeting the criminals already and leave the rest of us the fuck alone.

[Telconi]

Machine guns, cannons, tanks, .50 BMG, "assault weapons" most handgun models, a great number of rifle models, carrying my handgun concealed without a license, carrying my handgun openly whatsoever, carrying a long gun openly whatsoever, a free paid every time I buy a gun, a fee paid every time I renew my license to buy a gun, a ten day waiting period between when I buy a gun and when I actually get it, a free paid when I buy ammo, taxes and licensure on gun manufacturers driving up prices, taxes and licensure on ammo manufacturers driving up prices...

I could go on with this.

So this is the world we live in, where not being given civilian access to full military weapons and explosives is considered a "compromise".

Yeah that's what it is, you being pissy about people liking freedom doesn't make what I said untrue.

[Petrasylvania]

Still willing to entertain a Kansas Oklahoma experiment in a red state where there's no restriction on firearms, including military weapons and explosives for a few years. If they don't kill each other off then that's a good sign.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

I'll be honest, we don't know what you want for a comprise.

I'd be ok with homemade flame throwers nation wide in return for crazy bois not getting guns.

I just want the shootings to stop.

Those are already legal, cannot buy freedoms with things I already have.

Not nation wide.

Homemade flamethrowers and bump stocks in exchange for state funded psychiatrist test's for first time gun buyers?

Yeah, I'm going to have to pass. I'm not a fan for costing the taxpayers even more money for literally no reason, for I can bump fire with my finger and a belt loop and still buy 50's era "grass burners" already.

It's not for literally no reason, it's to give the crazy people help and sane people guns.

Again, this is the first time i'm thinking of stuff for a compromise. How about less taxes on guns and ammo on top of that?

But anyway, goodnight. I'm really tired.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

We don't want to compromise. We want you people to leave us alone.

Fucking this!

Try targeting the criminals already and leave the rest of us the fuck alone.

We are.

We want to separate the crazy front the sane and give the sane there rightful guns.

Unfortunately, no one is a mind reader so the next best thing is a psychiatrist.

We aren't even targeting you, we have been targeting the shooters all this time.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Fucking this!

Try targeting the criminals already and leave the rest of us the fuck alone.

We are.

We want to separate the crazy front the sane and give the sane there rightful guns.

Unfortunately, no one is a mind reader so the next best thing is a psychiatrist.

We aren't even targeting you, we have been targeting the shooters all this time.

Most of your side is targeting us, that's what you need to understand. You're in the minority.

[Geneviev]

Fucking this!

Try targeting the criminals already and leave the rest of us the fuck alone.

We are.

We want to separate the crazy front the sane and give the sane there rightful guns.

Unfortunately, no one is a mind reader so the next best thing is a psychiatrist.

We aren't even targeting you, we have been targeting the shooters all this time.

^^
This exactly.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

We are.

We want to separate the crazy front the sane and give the sane there rightful guns.

Unfortunately, no one is a mind reader so the next best thing is a psychiatrist.

We aren't even targeting you, we have been targeting the shooters all this time.

Most of your side is targeting us, that's what you need to understand. You're in the minority.

And I really really wish that my opinion was the majority. I really really want there to be less gun banners out there and more like me.

[Nulla Bellum]

We need to ban public schools. The NEA are terrorists.

[Ors Might]

Here’s an idea for a compromise. First time buyers have to get psych-examined at the federal government’s expense, but being denied the first time does not mean you won’t be allowed to try again in the future. Again at the government’s expense. Furthermore, while pushing for better mental healthcare and methods to fight poverty, pro gun control advocates agree to lay off banning certain types of firearms. Gunowners agree to needing a license for concealed carry and open carry but as long as they’ve been cleared as outlined earlier, they can’t be denied access to a firearm. Perhaps the more explosive categories of weapons should require more training but once the owner in question gets that training, they should be free to pursue ownership of that weapon. Furthermore, I’d be all for mandatory early age education on firearm safety, the stuff that goes beyond finding an adult. What to do and what not to do with a firearm, loaded or not. With an emphasis on treating it as a deadly weapon, not a toy. Is that an acceptable compromise?

[Genivaria]

We don't want to compromise. We want you people to leave us alone.

Fucking this!

Try targeting the criminals already and leave the rest of us the fuck alone.

Do tell how.

[Cekoviu]

Now that I think about it, denying any compromise beacuse some people want to ban guns and use that as a way of shooting down gun control that doesn't ban guns doesn't make much sense.

That's not the Idea I proposed, why should my idea get shot down beacuse some moron wants to ban guns?

The anti-gun side keeps saying the pro-gun side needs to compromise. What are you offering us? The repeal of Hughes? Free access to NICS? Pizza?

Do bagels work?

[Ors Might]

The anti-gun side keeps saying the pro-gun side needs to compromise. What are you offering us? The repeal of Hughes? Free access to NICS? Pizza?

Do bagels work?

Bagels? Pft, thought you wanted us to agree to your compromises?

[Cekoviu]

Here’s an idea for a compromise. First time buyers have to get psych-examined at the federal government’s expense, but being denied the first time does not mean you won’t be allowed to try again in the future. Again at the government’s expense. Furthermore, while pushing for better mental healthcare and methods to fight poverty, pro gun control advocates agree to lay off banning certain types of firearms. Gunowners agree to needing a license for concealed carry and open carry but as long as they’ve been cleared as outlined earlier, they can’t be denied access to a firearm. Perhaps the more explosive categories of weapons should require more training but once the owner in question gets that training, they should be free to pursue ownership of that weapon. Furthermore, I’d be all for mandatory early age education on firearm safety, the stuff that goes beyond finding an adult. What to do and what not to do with a firearm, loaded or not. With an emphasis on treating it as a deadly weapon, not a toy. Is that an acceptable compromise?

I like this, although I really do think concealed carry is far too dangerous to be allowed except in the rarest of cases.

[Telconi]

Fucking this!

Try targeting the criminals already and leave the rest of us the fuck alone.

We are.

We want to separate the crazy front the sane and give the sane there rightful guns.

Unfortunately, no one is a mind reader so the next best thing is a psychiatrist.

We aren't even targeting you, we have been targeting the shooters all this time.

Perhaps you aren't targeting me, but the party you belong to very much is, gun control laws have cost me THOUSANDS of dollars, and an immeasurable reduction of rights. And for what? Have I killed anyone? Have I caused any harm to anyone by owning an AR-15 without a stupid plastic flappy?

[Cekoviu]

Do bagels work?

Bagels? Pft, thought you wanted us to agree to your compromises?

With strawberry cream cheese?

[Ors Might]

Here’s an idea for a compromise. First time buyers have to get psych-examined at the federal government’s expense, but being denied the first time does not mean you won’t be allowed to try again in the future. Again at the government’s expense. Furthermore, while pushing for better mental healthcare and methods to fight poverty, pro gun control advocates agree to lay off banning certain types of firearms. Gunowners agree to needing a license for concealed carry and open carry but as long as they’ve been cleared as outlined earlier, they can’t be denied access to a firearm. Perhaps the more explosive categories of weapons should require more training but once the owner in question gets that training, they should be free to pursue ownership of that weapon. Furthermore, I’d be all for mandatory early age education on firearm safety, the stuff that goes beyond finding an adult. What to do and what not to do with a firearm, loaded or not. With an emphasis on treating it as a deadly weapon, not a toy. Is that an acceptable compromise?

I like this, although I really do think concealed carry is far too dangerous to be allowed except in the rarest of cases.

If they’ve been cleared by a professional, then what is the danger? Otherwise, we’ll have to exclusively allow open carry, which I’m honestly not against.

[Ors Might]

Bagels? Pft, thought you wanted us to agree to your compromises?

With strawberry cream cheese?

Really pushing it my dude. Make it a box of chocolate donuts and maybe we’ll come to the table.

[Cekoviu]

I like this, although I really do think concealed carry is far too dangerous to be allowed except in the rarest of cases.

If they’ve been cleared by a professional, then what is the danger? Otherwise, we’ll have to exclusively allow open carry, which I’m honestly not against.

I suppose it's less dangerous than not being cleared, but still, one slip-up could injure them or somebody else. I won't reveal the specifics for privacy, but something similar happened in my hometown with a concealed carrier incompetently destroying property, so I know the dangers firsthand. To be fair, they may not have been thoroughly evaluated; as I recall, the laws in that state are pretty lax with regards to concealed carry.

[Cekoviu]

With strawberry cream cheese?

Really pushing it my dude. Make it a box of chocolate donuts and maybe we’ll come to the table.

Hmm... What kind of donuts? Cake, old-fashioned, bars?
Now I'm hungry for donuts.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Here’s an idea for a compromise. First time buyers have to get psych-examined at the federal government’s expense, but being denied the first time does not mean you won’t be allowed to try again in the future. Again at the government’s expense. Furthermore, while pushing for better mental healthcare and methods to fight poverty, pro gun control advocates agree to lay off banning certain types of firearms. Gunowners agree to needing a license for concealed carry and open carry but as long as they’ve been cleared as outlined earlier, they can’t be denied access to a firearm. Perhaps the more explosive categories of weapons should require more training but once the owner in question gets that training, they should be free to pursue ownership of that weapon. Furthermore, I’d be all for mandatory early age education on firearm safety, the stuff that goes beyond finding an adult. What to do and what not to do with a firearm, loaded or not. With an emphasis on treating it as a deadly weapon, not a toy. Is that an acceptable compromise?

I like this, although I really do think concealed carry is far too dangerous to be allowed except in the rarest of cases.

People with conceal carry licenses are literally more law abiding than law enforcement officers.

[Cekoviu]

If they’ve been cleared by a professional, then what is the danger? Otherwise, we’ll have to exclusively allow open carry, which I’m honestly not against.

I suppose it's less dangerous than not being cleared, but still, one slip-up could injure them or somebody else. I won't reveal the specifics for privacy, but something similar happened in my hometown with a concealed carrier incompetently destroying property, so I know the dangers firsthand. To be fair, they may not have been thoroughly evaluated; as I recall, the laws in that state are pretty lax with regards to concealed carry.

Also, concealed carry would seem to be worse for actually warding off criminals because the sight of a gun intimidates them (though it also intimidates passersby) and would potentially keep them from ever trying to kill people rather than having a short grace period.

[Cekoviu]

I like this, although I really do think concealed carry is far too dangerous to be allowed except in the rarest of cases.

People with conceal carry licenses are literally more law abiding than law enforcement officers.

Being legal doesn't necessarily equate to being safe.

[Ors Might]

If they’ve been cleared by a professional, then what is the danger? Otherwise, we’ll have to exclusively allow open carry, which I’m honestly not against.

I suppose it's less dangerous than not being cleared, but still, one slip-up could injure them or somebody else. I won't reveal the specifics for privacy, but something similar happened in my hometown with a concealed carrier incompetently destroying property, so I know the dangers firsthand. To be fair, they may not have been thoroughly evaluated; as I recall, the laws in that state are pretty lax with regards to concealed carry.

Perhaps a fairly thorough examination? If we’re compromising, you can understand why I’d Why the best possible outcome for my cause. We’ve been fucked over before. I honestly don’t think very many would be as open to this as I am.