Offensive Symbols

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

The hoods and cloaks that the KKK wear weren't actually created by the KKK. They're a Catholic vestment. Though, you won't see clergy wear it much. Probably because the KKK tarnished that too...

Indeed, I think it's only in current use by the Capirote in Spain.

Indeed the BBC has an article talking about the differences in symbolism specifically talking about the hoods and cloaks.

The Capirote (penitent members of confraternities), AFAIK, are the only ones who currently use it. Although the Nazarenos and Fariseos are known for using it too.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Indeed, I think it's only in current use by the Capirote in Spain.

Indeed the BBC has an article talking about the differences in symbolism specifically talking about the hoods and cloaks.

The Capirote (penitent members of confraternities), AFAIK, are the only ones who currently use it. Although the Nazarenos and Fariseos are known for using it too.

I always forget your spainish

[Imperializt Russia]

All the other regimes you listed killed people for being "enemies of the state" and political opponents. Disgusting, unquestionably so, but impossibly far removed from the systematic, industrialised slaughter of the Nazis who used racist pseudoscience to artificially categorise people into what amounted to "human" and "non-human" races and have them killed because they believed in the inferiority of these races.

I think your broader point is partially valid, but you're simply wrong here. One of the regimes listed in the OP is the Khmer Rouge, who most certainly did engage in the systematic slaughter of people based on race and other factors besides political opposition to the regime. They actually killed people for wearing glasses, because glasses were seen as "bourgeois." They also attempted to exterminate all non-Khmer ethnic groups within Cambodia. The notoriety attached to the symbolism of the Nazis is not just because they were particularly evil.

This is indeed true, and I overlooked the nature of the Khmer Rouge in making my post.

It is probably worth noting that after the end of the Vietnam War, the Chinese and Soviet-backed North Vietnamese not only overthrew the anticommunist Republic of Vietnam, but in 1979 invaded Cambodia with the express intent of overthrowing the Khmer Rouge as well. So the "Hammer & Sickle" probably doesn't have any tacit support for the Khmer Rouge, who didn't have a lot in common with other Marxist-Leninist derived regimes of the 20th century besides the vocabulary of class war.

[Democratic Exodian Territories]

The Celtic Cross alone is far from a hateful symbol, being a symbol meant to be holy and Christian.

But when one of those pointy hood-wearing freaks tarnishes it, it’s now gone down the drain.

The hoods and cloaks that the KKK wear weren't actually created by the KKK. They're a Catholic vestment. Though, you won't see clergy wear it much. Probably because the KKK tarnished that too...

Naturally. I knew robes were always a Catholic vestment, but I never knew the hoods were a thing...

There’s some dark things in my sect of Christianity I think everyone wants to forget.

except for the crusades those were awesome

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

The hoods and cloaks that the KKK wear weren't actually created by the KKK. They're a Catholic vestment. Though, you won't see clergy wear it much. Probably because the KKK tarnished that too...

Naturally. I knew robes were always a Catholic vestment, but I never knew the hoods were a thing...

There’s some dark things in my sect of Christianity I think everyone wants to forget.

except for the crusades those were awesome

Those hoods were also used in auto-da fes. Their history is quite dark, yes.

[Dylar]

The hoods and cloaks that the KKK wear weren't actually created by the KKK. They're a Catholic vestment. Though, you won't see clergy wear it much. Probably because the KKK tarnished that too...

Naturally. I knew robes were always a Catholic vestment, but I never knew the hoods were a thing...

There’s some dark things in my sect of Christianity I think everyone wants to forget.

except for the crusades those were awesome

The hoods aren't that much of a dark history. Especially if it's used in a ritual during Holy Week by religious orders in Spain

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Naturally. I knew robes were always a Catholic vestment, but I never knew the hoods were a thing...

There’s some dark things in my sect of Christianity I think everyone wants to forget.

except for the crusades those were awesome

The hoods aren't that much of a dark history. Especially if it's used in a ritual during Holy Week by religious orders in Spain

Their use currently does not cancel the capirotes's history, which is indeed dark.

[Communist Zombie Horde]

Normal summer also just started.

I thought normal summer officially begins on the summer solstice on June 21.

Exactly

I’d like to add the Confederate flag as a symbol of hate. Also, if recommend googling Trump flag and scrolling down until you see a mixture of Nazi Germany’s flag, the Confederate flag, and something else.

[Democratic Exodian Territories]

I’m also a bit put off by flags that display the AK-47; it always either results in them being communists or promoting an extremist religious ideology, namely radical Islamism (well, Hezbollah is the only example I could find of the latter).

Also because the Stoner/Armalite AR-15/M16 is a much better rifle than that stupid cheap piece of shit screw that trash SORRY, wrong thread.

[Communist Zombie Horde]

I’m also a bit put off by flags that display the AK-47; it always either results in them being communists or promoting an extremist religious ideology, namely radical Islamism (well, Hezbollah is the only example I could find of the latter).

Also because the Stoner/Armalite AR-15/M16 is a much better rifle than that stupid cheap piece of shit screw that trash SORRY, wrong thread.

The AR-15 is trash, The M-14 is way better.

[West Leas Oros]

What’s with everyone talking about summer? I don’t get it.

[Democratic Exodian Territories]

I thought normal summer officially begins on the summer solstice on June 21.

Exactly

I’d like to add the Confederate flag as a symbol of hate. Also, if recommend googling Trump flag and scrolling down until you see a mixture of Nazi Germany’s flag, the Confederate flag, and something else.

I’d disagree. That flag was created in the name of their independence; a futile and aimless attempt but a valiant one nonetheless.

The brave men who were sent out to their deaths against their own brethren in the name of their homes were universes away from the greedy slave owners who we often forget were the real villains of the war.



It’s super weird I’m defending the Confederates- I’m a brown Asian. Probably because I’m Floridian.

[Imperializt Russia]

Exactly

I’d like to add the Confederate flag as a symbol of hate. Also, if recommend googling Trump flag and scrolling down until you see a mixture of Nazi Germany’s flag, the Confederate flag, and something else.

I’d disagree. That flag was created in the name of their independence; a futile and aimless attempt but a valiant one nonetheless.

It was the battle flag of a movement that fundamentally believed that, due to one's skin colour, should be owned and were not real people worthy of defending the rights of.

I’m also a bit put off by flags that display the AK-47; it always either results in them being communists or promoting an extremist religious ideology, namely radical Islamism (well, Hezbollah is the only example I could find of the latter).

This fact puts this quote in interesting light. Flags that feature an AK-47 are also in the name of a nation's independence and values from those who sought dominion over them. But the flag whitey carried is fine.
*shrug*

The brave men who were sent out to their deaths against their own brethren in the name of their homes were universes away from the greedy slave owners who we often forget were the real villains of the war.

They certainly were universes apart.
Especially when the CSA passed the "20 Negros Amendment" to its conscription law. Have a guess what that was meant to do.

[West Leas Oros]

And hereby I declare NS Summer to have begun.

Normal summer also just started.

Can someone explain the “summer” meme to me?

[Dylar]

Normal summer also just started.

Can someone explain the “summer” meme to me?

So NS Summer is when you have random OPs posting the weirdest and often most controversial topics onto NSG.

[Democratic Exodian Territories]

I’m also a bit put off by flags that display the AK-47; it always either results in them being communists or promoting an extremist religious ideology, namely radical Islamism (well, Hezbollah is the only example I could find of the latter).

This fact puts this quote in interesting light. Flags that feature an AK-47 are also in the name of a nation's independence and values from those who sought dominion over them. But the flag whitey carried is fine.
*shrug*

I won’t argue with that; of course it’s meant to represent revolution and independence. But not a single democratic movement has been spawned from any organization that flew a flag with a Kalashnikov on it.

[Alvecia]

Normal summer also just started.

Can someone explain the “summer” meme to me?

It's a term that I believe started to refer to the period during which school kids begin their summer holidays and find themselves with a great deal of free time on their hands. Forums, such as this one, suddenly find themselves with a large number of new younger and less....mature users.

[Conserative Morality]

Normal summer also just started.

Can someone explain the “summer” meme to me?

Kids get out of school in summer with lots of free time and nothing to do, which is when the anarchists, the neonazis, and the assorted low-quality posters come out of the woodwork.

It's not a coincidence.

[West Leas Oros]

Can someone explain the “summer” meme to me?

So NS Summer is when you have random OPs posting the weirdest and often most controversial topics onto NSG.

I see.

[Imperializt Russia]

This fact puts this quote in interesting light. Flags that feature an AK-47 are also in the name of a nation's independence and values from those who sought dominion over them. But the flag whitey carried is fine.
*shrug*

I won’t argue with that; of course it’s meant to represent revolution and independence. But not a single democratic movement has been spawned from any organization that flew a flag with a Kalashnikov on it.

Hezbollah has elected representatives to 12 of the 128 seats of the Lebanese parliament, with 2 of the 30 cabinet seats occupied by Hezbollah politicians.

Mozambique featuring an AK doesn't really mean anything different to the muskets featured on the Guatemalan flag, nor the cannon on the Haitian flag - and really, this isn't much different to other non-firearm weapons on flags, such as the fairly universal spears or arrows.
Mozambique, for all the faults its system may have with corruption, is still a multi-party democracy.

I often contend that "democracy" is conflated with "western liberal representative democracy". This is, fundamentally, not the only form of democracy that can or does exist, and is not the only free or fair democratic system.

[Imperializt Russia]

Can someone explain the “summer” meme to me?

Kids get out of school in summer with lots of free time and nothing to do, which is when the anarchists, the neonazis, and the assorted low-quality posters come out of the woodwork.

It's not a coincidence.

*AHEM*

[Sovaal]

I’m also a bit put off by flags that display the AK-47; it always either results in them being communists or promoting an extremist religious ideology, namely radical Islamism (well, Hezbollah is the only example I could find of the latter).

Also because the Stoner/Armalite AR-15/M16 is a much better rifle than that stupid cheap piece of shit screw that trash SORRY, wrong thread.

The AR-15 is trash, The M-14 is way better.

M14 should never have existed and the AR 10 is far superior.

[The South Falls]

The reason why the swastika is such a hate symbol is because the holocaust killed so many, and was televised after the war. It's burned into the minds of people around the world, and we hope i5 never happens again.

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

Far and away, the most offensive symbol in modern western culture is the Nazi Hakenkreuz, or Swastika. It symbolises one of the cruellest dictatorships in modern history, responsible for at least 14 million deaths. However, Nazi Germany was not the only dictatorship of the 20th century. The USSR under Stalin, for example, is estimated to have killed between 9 and 50 million. The Khmer Rouge killed 21% of Cambodia's total population. Franco's "White Terror" has a kill count between 200,000 and 400,000. All these dictatorships had ideologies and symbols, but none of them has gathered quite as much attention as the Hakenkruez. Why is this?

Why do you think the Swastika stands head and shoulders above other murderous symbols? Why are symbols like the hammer and sickle or red star, symbols of communism, not seen in the same negative light as the Swastika? Why are other symbols of fascism, like the Italian Falange or the Greek Labrys, not well known whilst almost everyone recognizes the symbol of the Nazis? Does the Swastika represent fascism as a whole, or merely the Nazi's unique form of fascism? And at what point does a symbol become associated with the murderous regimes that use them?

The answer to this lies not in what they did but in how they did it. In the case of Nazism, they were institutionalized, efficient, and effective at slaughtering millions. In the case of Communism, the reason the hammer-and-sickle is not seen as "offensive" is because it wasn't the same kind of mechanical and, frankly, industrial massacres that happened in the Holocaust - honestly, the Soviet genocides were just as much of a result of the Soviet government being bad at its job than anything else. In the case of other groups, the Italian fascists weren't that good at it (at least, not enough to demonize their entire symbol), and the Spanish and Cambodian fascists weren't at war with great powers like the United States, despite the Khmer Rouge being arguably the most genocidal regime in known history..

[Sovaal]

I thought normal summer officially begins on the summer solstice on June 21.

Exactly

I’d like to add the Confederate flag as a symbol of hate. Also, if recommend googling Trump flag and scrolling down until you see a mixture of Nazi Germany’s flag, the Confederate flag, and something else.