North Korea cancels talks with South Korea

[Painisia]

But I wonder if North Korea would benefit from an agreement with the US?

[Keuliseu]

But I wonder if North Korea would benefit from an agreement with the US?

Depends largely on the agreement. Appearing to appease the US would definitely not benefit NK internally.

[Painisia]

But I wonder if North Korea would benefit from an agreement with the US?

Depends largely on the agreement. Appearing to appease the US would definitely not benefit NK internally.

Kim Jong-un could have been assassinated by the conservative faction in his party

[Keuliseu]

Depends largely on the agreement. Appearing to appease the US would definitely not benefit NK internally.

Kim Jong-un could have been assassinated by the conservative faction in his party

I don't see that happening unfortunately

[Uxupox]

Kim Jong-un could have been assassinated by the conservative faction in his party

I don't see that happening unfortunately

Honestly we don't know who is going to replace Kim if an event like that ever happens.

[Keuliseu]

I don't see that happening unfortunately

Honestly we don't know who is going to replace Kim if an event like that ever happens.

Most likely his older brother. It would definitely be family, anyone outside of the family would not be able to gain legitimate control. Only his family would go unchallenged

[Morvan]

So no one's actually talking about the DPRK's Reason I see, well here it is: http://www.kcna.kp/kcna.user.article.re ... List.kcmsf

The DPRK has expressed that the attitudes of the USA and the ROK are not that of peace, that the DPRK will continue to maintain their course of developing nuclear deterrent, and that "If the Trump administration takes an approach to the DPRK-U.S. summit with sincerity for improved DPRK-U.S. relations, it will receive a deserved response from us."

[Uxupox]

So no one's actually talking about the DPRK's Reason I see, well here it is: http://www.kcna.kp/kcna.user.article.re ... List.kcmsf

The DPRK has expressed that the attitudes of the USA and the ROK are not that of peace, that the DPRK will continue to maintain their course of developing nuclear deterrent, and that "If the Trump administration takes an approach to the DPRK-U.S. summit with sincerity for improved DPRK-U.S. relations, it will receive a deserved response from us."

complete hogwash. ROK has been literally bending themselves over to appease them. the only thing that is missing is the complete annexation of South Korea under "strong" north Korean leadership or a complete disbanding of ROK forces and US forces leaving the region.

[Keuliseu]

So no one's actually talking about the DPRK's Reason I see, well here it is: http://www.kcna.kp/kcna.user.article.re ... List.kcmsf

The DPRK has expressed that the attitudes of the USA and the ROK are not that of peace, that the DPRK will continue to maintain their course of developing nuclear deterrent, and that "If the Trump administration takes an approach to the DPRK-U.S. summit with sincerity for improved DPRK-U.S. relations, it will receive a deserved response from us."

complete hogwash. ROK has been literally bending themselves over to appease them. the only thing that is missing is the complete annexation of South Korea under "strong" north Korean leadership or a complete disbanding of ROK forces and US forces leaving the region.

I can see NK asking US forces to leave. It was a suggestion that cropped up on Korean media before the Inter-Kor meetings were cancelled

So no one's actually talking about the DPRK's Reason I see, well here it is: http://www.kcna.kp/kcna.user.article.re ... List.kcmsf

The DPRK has expressed that the attitudes of the USA and the ROK are not that of peace, that the DPRK will continue to maintain their course of developing nuclear deterrent, and that "If the Trump administration takes an approach to the DPRK-U.S. summit with sincerity for improved DPRK-U.S. relations, it will receive a deserved response from us."

Yes
nobody
said
anything

[Morvan]

complete hogwash. ROK has been literally bending themselves over to appease them. the only thing that is missing is the complete annexation of South Korea under "strong" north Korean leadership or a complete disbanding of ROK forces and US forces leaving the region.

The DPRK's pursuit of Nuclear deterrent emerged specifically to counteract the US forces and their hostile military practices. The DPRK therefore is not going to give up their only guaranteed deterrent without the removal of what caused them to build a deterrent in the first place

[Morvan]

Yes
nobody
said
anything

My apologies. I didn't see those posts

[Uxupox]

complete hogwash. ROK has been literally bending themselves over to appease them. the only thing that is missing is the complete annexation of South Korea under "strong" north Korean leadership or a complete disbanding of ROK forces and US forces leaving the region.

The DPRK's pursuit of Nuclear deterrent emerged specifically to counteract the US forces and their hostile military practices. The DPRK therefore is not going to give up their only guaranteed deterrent without the removal of what caused them to build a deterrent in the first place

Pretty sure they are not going to give up their nuclear arsenal period even if they dominate the peninsula.

[Keuliseu]

My apologies. I didn't see those posts

No worries. Never really seen someone trying to use the KCNA as a legitimate source, but it does work in this case I guess

[Morvan]

Pretty sure they are not going to give up their nuclear arsenal period even if they dominate the peninsula.

Pyongyang, August 25 (KCNA) -- A DPRK delegation clarified the following principled stand as regards the on-going U.S.-south Korea joint military drill against the DPRK at the third session of the Geneva Disarmament Conference on August 22:

The root cause of the nuclear issue that spawned on the Korean peninsula and the vicious cycle of tensions lies in the U.S. hostile policy and nuclear threat against the DPRK.

In order to ease the tension and avert dangerous military conflict on the Korean peninsula and in the region, the U.S. should first take a right choice and prove it in action as it introduced lots of nuclear strategic assets around the Korean peninsula and caused a troublesome situation.

But the U.S. and south Korea started the Ulji Freedom Guardian joint military exercise on August 21 by mobilizing lethal war equipment deployed in the U.S. mainland and Pacific operational theatre and the armed forces of seven satellite countries despite our repeated warnings.

The focus of the rehearsal is on the drill for "beheading operation" and "secret operation" to "remove" the supreme headquarters of the DPRK and one for countering the DPRK's ballistic rockets under OPLAN 5015, an aggressive war scenario to carry out preemptive strike against the DPRK.

The U.S. should bear in mind that its military pressure and sanctions are becoming the driving power bolstering the DPRK's nuclear force instead.

Unless a definite end is put to the U.S. hostile policy and nuclear threat, the DPRK will never flinch even an inch from the road of bolstering up the nuclear forces already chosen by itself. -0-

[Morvan]

Pretty sure they are not going to give up their nuclear arsenal period even if they dominate the peninsula.

Pyongyang, April 7 (KCNA) -- A DPRK delegate made a speech at the 2017 Meeting of the United Nations Disarmament Commission on April 3.

Noting that instability and danger of nuclear war are ever-increasing worldwide due to the reckless nuclear force buildup of the U.S. and nuclear weapons states are scaling up their nuclear strategic forces both in quantity and quality to cope with it, the delegate pointed out that any progress in the field of nuclear disarmament can never be expected unless anachronistic hegemonic scenario to steadily dominate the world by dint of strategic nuclear edge is terminated.

The overall and complete nuclear disarmament and the removal of constant threat to global peace and security are possible only when the U.S. nuclear threat and military actions aimed at bringing down the independent countries by force are stopped, the delegate said, and went on:

Now the Korean peninsula has turned into the worst hot spot in the world, being exposed to the danger of a nuclear war.

The U.S., whenever it staged nuclear war drills in south Korea, termed the drills "annual" and "defensive" ones to cope with the DPRK's access to nukes. This is no more than an artifice to shift the blame for the tense situation on the peninsula onto the DPRK and justify their wild ambition for aggression.

The U.S. is the arch criminal harassing peace and stability on the peninsula and in other parts of Northeast Asia only to escalate tensions as it is hell-bent on risky war rehearsals in south Korea which is little short of a nuclear arsenal.

It is an entirely just right to self-defence of a sovereign state to keep itself highly alert and bolster in every way its strong war deterrent capable of mercilessly wiping out the aggressors as required by the grim situation where an actual war may break out any moment.

It is thanks to the resolute will and efforts of the DPRK for peace and its tremendous nuclear deterrent for self-defence that peace has been preserved on the Korean peninsula despite the U.S. imperialists' foolhardy moves for a nuclear war.

As long as the U.S. and its vassal forces persistently pose nuclear threat and blackmail and continue the nuclear war racket masked as an annual one at the doorstep of the DPRK, the DPRK will as ever bolster up its capabilities for self-defence and preemptive attack with the nuclear force as a pivot.

Urging the Disarmament Commission to pay special attention to the acts of infringing upon sovereignty of other countries and bringing down their social systems being manifested in such forms as undisguised nuclear threat, war drills and sanctions and blockade, the delegate clarified the stand of the DPRK to support the activities of the non-aligned movement for overall and complete nuclear disarmament and make efforts to carry it out. -0-

[Uxupox]

Pyongyang, August 25 (KCNA) -- A DPRK delegation clarified the following principled stand as regards the on-going U.S.-south Korea joint military drill against the DPRK at the third session of the Geneva Disarmament Conference on August 22:

The root cause of the nuclear issue that spawned on the Korean peninsula and the vicious cycle of tensions lies in the U.S. hostile policy and nuclear threat against the DPRK.

In order to ease the tension and avert dangerous military conflict on the Korean peninsula and in the region, the U.S. should first take a right choice and prove it in action as it introduced lots of nuclear strategic assets around the Korean peninsula and caused a troublesome situation.

But the U.S. and south Korea started the Ulji Freedom Guardian joint military exercise on August 21 by mobilizing lethal war equipment deployed in the U.S. mainland and Pacific operational theatre and the armed forces of seven satellite countries despite our repeated warnings.

The focus of the rehearsal is on the drill for "beheading operation" and "secret operation" to "remove" the supreme headquarters of the DPRK and one for countering the DPRK's ballistic rockets under OPLAN 5015, an aggressive war scenario to carry out preemptive strike against the DPRK.

The U.S. should bear in mind that its military pressure and sanctions are becoming the driving power bolstering the DPRK's nuclear force instead.

Unless a definite end is put to the U.S. hostile policy and nuclear threat, the DPRK will never flinch even an inch from the road of bolstering up the nuclear forces already chosen by itself. -0-

oh wait. do i have to believe on a guy that literally is an obese individual while a significant majority of his ruling country is malnourished, beaten to submission, crimes are generational and looks like an early nation state that is stuck at 10,000 bc.

[Morvan]

oh wait. do i have to believe on a guy that literally is an obese individual while a significant majority of his ruling country is malnourished, beaten to submission, crimes are generational and looks like an early nation state that is stuck at 10,000 bc.

A non-sequitur, and an ad hominem, not seen that yet.

[Keuliseu]

When any journalism site seriously uses the lines of "south Korean authorities have been clearly proven to be an ignorant and incompetent group devoid of the elementary sense of the present situation" in their publishing, anything they say should never be used for anything other than offering an alternative opinion.

[Morvan]

When any journalism site seriously uses the lines of "south Korean authorities have been clearly proven to be an ignorant and incompetent group devoid of the elementary sense of the present situation" in their publishing, anything they say should never be sued for anything other than offering an alternative opinion.

This was a quotation from the DPRK delegation at the Geneva Disarmament convention that was reported by the KCNA

EDIT: where exactly did you see that line?

[Keuliseu]

When any journalism site seriously uses the lines of "south Korean authorities have been clearly proven to be an ignorant and incompetent group devoid of the elementary sense of the present situation" in their publishing, anything they say should never be sued for anything other than offering an alternative opinion.

This was a quotation from the DPRK delegation at the Geneva Disarmament convention that was reported by the KCNA

I didnt realise that convention happened yesterday, my bad.

[Morvan]

I may have made a misunderstanding. Where did you see those lines?

[Keuliseu]

I may have made a misunderstanding. Where did you see those lines?

http://www.kcna.kp/kcna.user.article.re ... kcmsf#this

[Uxupox]

oh wait. do i have to believe on a guy that literally is an obese individual while a significant majority of his ruling country is malnourished, beaten to submission, crimes are generational and looks like an early nation state that is stuck at 10,000 bc.

A non-sequitur, and an ad hominem, not seen that yet.

why don't you go visit North Korea since it's paradise on earth. best country!!!

[Morvan]

I may have made a misunderstanding. Where did you see those lines?

http://www.kcna.kp/kcna.user.article.re ... kcmsf#this

Ah, well I belive that's part of the answer from Ri Son Gwon given by the KCNA and later published by the KCNA

[Morvan]

why don't you go visit North Korea since it's paradise on earth. best country!!!

I have never said that. You are discussing in frankly terrible faith.