112 operator makes fun of French mother who died

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Sorry sheep. I'm not good with france numbers

You must really hate the metric system then.

Nah i'm good with that, i'm just bahhhd with other countries emergency numbers.

[Second Helghan Empire]

Not that it matters as that was obviously a joke or a trolling comment on your part.

No, I mean every bit. I know enough people who have enough bad experiences with hospitals and medical professionals to know that more often than not, it just outright isn't worthwhile to get any help from them. Doctors want to charge you $300+ just to see them and you don't get much value from the money you give them. People in the medical field think they're entitled to six figure earnings just because their education is ridiculously expensive.

Medical providers and insurers are the enemy so far as I'm concerned. To remain rich and not go bankrupt, you have to find ways to not require their help ever, simply put. If your country has as big of a clusterfuck as the US has, with its medical sector.

Course, I have no experience with what a universal healthcare system is really like, but the trade off is that it comes with a much higher tax burden generally speaking. You get all sorts of people who get medical service whom you don't want them to get anything such as illegal immigrants.

See these are valid points but the issue is regarding the emergency side of things. There are a lot of bullshit calls, but when you let a call that could potentially save a persons life, in this case a 22 year old woman's, the response must be to do their utmost. If this operator was trained to pass them onto this SOS Médecins thing they are not really to blame for her death personally but her decision to cast a possible emergency call aside and send a group that evidently takes hours to respond no doubt weighs heavily on her. This has nothing to do with expenses or whether she would have died later or not, this has to do with either the operator's failure to do her job, or the failure of the agency to properly prepare them for the job.

[New Emeline]

Reminds me of the incident of that teenager that got stuck in the trunk of a car and suffocated because the 911 operator thought it was a prank.

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

It's a damn good thing that the medical field isn't filled with more people such as yourself. You can have a heart attack and still survive. Not to mention that you don't need to fucking belittle and mock the person calling with an emergency. Fucking disgusting. Congrats. This is the most disgusting thing I have read on NSG yet today.

If someone has a heart attack, chances are they will again later. The medical field being full of foolish ideals is partially why it is more expensive than it has to be. I'm more in favor of the Cuban approach to medical care, which is presumably to prevent more than it is to cure; after a person is too unhealthy to function well.

So, we're just not going to treat anyone who has a heart attack ever again? Got ya.

[Purpelia]

I suggest additional training for operator's to take everycall seriously.

Except as the article says, "A former Samu worker pointed out that out of 100 calls, only 10 to 20 were real emergencies, with the majority being people who are drunk, anxious or want someone to talk to. "We're constantly afraid of being wrong."

Taking every call seriously would mean only a fraction of ambulances going to those who need help.

It's better to waste fuel and drivers than to leave corpses in your wake.

[Hertisy]

Jail sentence, that's inexcusable.

[Major-Tom]

Operator should be sacked immediately and face the courts.

[The Blaatschapen]

If I look at the topic, they'd be all calling the wrong number anyway.

You're not going to let that one go, are you? XD

I want to give that operator a promotion or at least keep them in that job because lets face it, they were keeping it real. I honestly believe that if an ambulance was sent, that they still wouldn't have made it.

It's a damn good thing that the medical field isn't filled with more people such as yourself. You can have a heart attack and still survive. Not to mention that you don't need to fucking belittle and mock the person calling with an emergency. Fucking disgusting. Congrats. This is the most disgusting thing I have read on NSG yet today.

Too much opportunities to make fun of it.

So no.

[Ethel mermania]

Not that it matters as that was obviously a joke or a trolling comment on your part.

No, I mean every bit. I know enough people who have enough bad experiences with hospitals and medical professionals to know that more often than not, it just outright isn't worthwhile to get any help from them. Doctors want to charge you $300+ just to see them and you don't get much value from the money you give them. People in the medical field think they're entitled to six figure earnings just because their education is ridiculously expensive.

Medical providers and insurers are the enemy so far as I'm concerned. To remain rich and not go bankrupt, you have to find ways to not require their help ever, simply put. If your country has as big of a clusterfuck as the US has, with its medical sector.

Course, I have no experience with what a universal healthcare system is really like, but the trade off is that it comes with a much higher tax burden generally speaking. You get all sorts of people who get medical service whom you don't want them to get anything such as illegal immigrants.

Weird, with insurance my heart attack cost me 31 dollars out of pocket. Well worth the yearly cost of insurance.

[Kubra]

I really do not mean to poke fun at a very tragic instance, but nonetheless
"You'll definitely die one day, like everyone else"
This is probably the most french thing that has ever happened in france, you call the emergency line for help and they respond with existential dread

[The Holy Therns]

"You'll definitely die one day, like everyone else," the worker replied.

Ugh. Existentialists are the worst.

[Petrolheadia]

You get all sorts of people who get medical service whom you don't want them to get anything such as illegal immigrants.

You want people dead for their ethnicity.

Also, you're the person whose bigger fear about global warming was the black race growing bigger, so you don't seem to be the sharpest tool in the shed.

[Neutraligon]

Not that it matters as that was obviously a joke or a trolling comment on your part.

No, I mean every bit. I know enough people who have enough bad experiences with hospitals and medical professionals to know that more often than not, it just outright isn't worthwhile to get any help from them. Doctors want to charge you $300+ just to see them and you don't get much value from the money you give them. People in the medical field think they're entitled to six figure earnings just because their education is ridiculously expensive.

Medical providers and insurers are the enemy so far as I'm concerned. To remain rich and not go bankrupt, you have to find ways to not require their help ever, simply put. If your country has as big of a clusterfuck as the US has, with its medical sector.

Course, I have no experience with what a universal healthcare system is really like, but the trade off is that it comes with a much higher tax burden generally speaking. You get all sorts of people who get medical service whom you don't want them to get anything such as illegal immigrants.

Given your opinion on sick people and emergency services, I hope you do not call 911 if you are ever in the same position, you know just so you can remain consistent. Or are you going to say it is ok for me but not for thee?

[Aillyria]

I want to give that operator a promotion or at least keep them in that job because lets face it, they were keeping it real. I honestly believe that if an ambulance was sent, that they still wouldn't have made it.

She was still alive a considerable time afterwards, she could have possibly been treated had the operators not been fucking around. While, I thought the operator's comment was funny, they should still be fired for not doing their job.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

That is enough explanation for me. She must've been unhealthy if she is having heart problems and strokes all the time. She was going to die anyways, so not worth saving. Hell, if I had problems like that; I'd be open to letting myself expire. It is better than a lifetime of medical debts.

Yeah no, we shouldn’t just leave people to die like that.

[Neutraligon]

I want to give that operator a promotion or at least keep them in that job because lets face it, they were keeping it real. I honestly believe that if an ambulance was sent, that they still wouldn't have made it.

She was still alive a considerable time afterwards, she could have possibly been treated had the operators not been fucking around. While, I thought the operator's comment was funny, they should still be fired for not doing their job.

Given the woman was dying at the time of that comment, I really don't find it all that funny.

[Washington Resistance Army]

That is enough explanation for me. She must've been unhealthy if she is having heart problems and strokes all the time. She was going to die anyways, so not worth saving. Hell, if I had problems like that; I'd be open to letting myself expire. It is better than a lifetime of medical debts.

You should try to go, like, a day without having an opinion that isn't totally disgusting.

[The Free Joy State]

The 112 operator should be fired. They were callous and their attitude unhelpful. Better training of emergency service operators in general wouldn't go amiss. Many are competent and do their best, but it might help to better assist people who aren't able to fully express their symptoms, perhaps due to pain, age or disability.

That said -- while I in no way blame the woman for the operator's incompetence -- I would not have waited five hours. If I was in excruciating pain, I would have taken a taxi, called my friends/neighbours/relatives or otherwise done whatever I had to do to get myself to the hospital if it became apparent that the ambulance service wasn't coming promptly (BTW, I know it's better for people in extremis to go by ambulance, but if the ambulance service is pissing around, I honestly feel it's better to just get to medical help).

That is enough explanation for me. She must've been unhealthy if she is having heart problems and strokes all the time. She was going to die anyways, so not worth saving. Hell, if I had problems like that; I'd be open to letting myself expire. It is better than a lifetime of medical debts.

Yeah... how about, instead of that, we don't let people die with perfectly treatable conditions, from which it's possible to recover and live a perfectly normal and happy life.

Returning to the dark ages of medical science is in no way laudable, and not something society should aim to do.

[Petrolheadia]

You must really hate the metric system then.

Nah i'm good with that, i'm just bahhhd with other countries emergency numbers.

It's not 1965 anymore, you can just Google the damn thing.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Nah i'm good with that, i'm just bahhhd with other countries emergency numbers.

It's not 1965 anymore, you can just Google the damn thing.

I'm sorry for making that mistake.

[Petrolheadia]

It's not 1965 anymore, you can just Google the damn thing.

I'm sorry for making that mistake.

Don't be sorry, just edit the title.

By the way, your constant apologies for every damn thing are annoyning.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

I'm sorry for making that mistake.

Don't be sorry, just edit the title.

By the way, your constant apologies for every damn thing are annoyning.

I did. I posted "112 operator makes fun of French mother who died" That was the edit I did on the post.

"Last edited by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp on Wed May 09, 2018 2:16 pm, edited 1 time in total."

Did you not notice?

[New Neruda]

I want to give that operator a promotion or at least keep them in that job because lets face it, they were keeping it real. I honestly believe that if an ambulance was sent, that they still wouldn't have made it.

how about no

[Petrolheadia]

Don't be sorry, just edit the title.

By the way, your constant apologies for every damn thing are annoyning.

I did. I posted "112 operator makes fun of French mother who died" That was the edit I did on the post.

"Last edited by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp on Wed May 09, 2018 2:16 pm, edited 1 time in total."

Did you not notice?

And that's all.

The first time you apologized, it was OK, but apologizing for every damn thing makes you an annoying, not polite, man.

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

I say that we should make a policy of sending help to every emergency call and criminalizing prank calls with a fine that goes straight to whatever agency showed up. That way, either pranks won't happen, or emergency services will get a funding boost every time someone wastes their time.