Fascism

[Kash Island]

I'd say that's a matter of opinion. I think fascist ideology as I understand it at the very least encourages atrocities. It's not that the things they advocate can't be achieved without violence of that kind, it's just that in the real world it wouldn't ever be achieved without it.

I mean, hell, it (that being Mussolini's Doctrine of Fascism) literally states that it's a totalitarian ideology. That alone says what needs to be said when it comes to whether or not Fascism leads to atrocities.

yes, Mussolini believed in the "everything for the state" etc etc

He believed it was the states responsibility to protect the culture/people of the nation. Whether that would lead to atrocities can't really be defined.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

I'd say that's a matter of opinion. I think fascist ideology as I understand it at the very least encourages atrocities. It's not that the things they advocate can't be achieved without violence of that kind, it's just that in the real world it wouldn't ever be achieved without it.

War crimes happen sure, but that's just a fact of ANY war, but not a direct result of fascism, you could possibly say it can be indirectly a result.

Yeah, fascism implies that tho, whereas other war crimes depend,

[Torrocca]

I mean, hell, it (that being Mussolini's Doctrine of Fascism) literally states that it's a totalitarian ideology. That alone says what needs to be said when it comes to whether or not Fascism leads to atrocities.

yes, Mussolini believed in the "everything for the state" etc etc

He believed it was the states responsibility to protect the culture/people of the nation. Whether that would lead to atrocities can't really be defined.

Oh yeah, because history before Fascism has shown that a government with unlimited authority has never led to problems before. /s

[Kash Island]

War crimes happen sure, but that's just a fact of ANY war, but not a direct result of fascism, you could possibly say it can be indirectly a result.

Yeah, fascism implies that tho, whereas other war crimes depend,

it implies nothing of the sort

[El-Amin Caliphate]

I mean, hell, it (that being Mussolini's Doctrine of Fascism) literally states that it's a totalitarian ideology. That alone says what needs to be said when it comes to whether or not Fascism leads to atrocities.

yes, Mussolini believed in the "everything for the state" etc etc

He believed it was the states responsibility to protect the culture/people of the nation. Whether that would lead to atrocities can't really be defined.

It's so extreme in "protecting the people/culture of the nation" that it would lead to war crimes.

[Kash Island]

yes, Mussolini believed in the "everything for the state" etc etc

He believed it was the states responsibility to protect the culture/people of the nation. Whether that would lead to atrocities can't really be defined.

It's so extreme in "protecting the people/culture of the nation" that it would lead to war crimes.

false

war leads to war crimes and such things are not bound by specific ideologies.

[Kash Island]

yes, Mussolini believed in the "everything for the state" etc etc

He believed it was the states responsibility to protect the culture/people of the nation. Whether that would lead to atrocities can't really be defined.

Oh yeah, because history before Fascism has shown that a government with unlimited authority has never led to problems before. /s

i never said it wouldn't have problems, no ideology is fool proof.

[Torrocca]

Oh yeah, because history before Fascism has shown that a government with unlimited authority has never led to problems before. /s

i never said it wouldn't have problems, no ideology is fool proof.

And it's such an ideology that's so not foolproof that literally every Fascist country/political party ever has atrocities under their belts. :^)

[Cekoviu]

how is fat pride related at all to zionism

Evil Jews are going to eat all of our food?

I wouldn't be surprised if that's the actual reasoning behind that.

[Kubumba Tribe]

It's so extreme in "protecting the people/culture of the nation" that it would lead to war crimes.

false

war leads to war crimes

But it's less with the army isn't trying to do so.
Also, war doesn't necessarily lead to war crimes. A benevolent army only fighting the enemy wouldn't commit war crimes.

[Kash Island]

i never said it wouldn't have problems, no ideology is fool proof.

And it's such an ideology that's so not foolproof that literally every Fascist country/political party ever has atrocities under their belts. :^)

damn near every ideology has atrocities under it's belt.

[New Emeline]

Evil Jews are going to eat all of our food?

I wouldn't be surprised if that's the actual reasoning behind that.

You never know....

[Kash Island]

false

war leads to war crimes

But it's less with the army isn't trying to do so.
Also, war doesn't necessarily lead to war crimes. A benevolent army only fighting the enemy wouldn't commit war crimes.

to the highlighted: nothing in fascism dictates the military to commit war crimes(if you could show me a quote from the Doctrine of Fascism that states otherwise, please by all means)

War dosn't need to have war crimes but in the chaos war abuses/atrocities normally occur(human nature)

[Torrocca]

And it's such an ideology that's so not foolproof that literally every Fascist country/political party ever has atrocities under their belts. :^)

damn near every ideology has atrocities under it's belt.

The difference is that A: not every country adhering to a non-Fascist ideology has atrocities attributed to its leading ideology and B: people adhering to non-Fascist ideologies don't tend to actively seek out violence and murder.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I gave some thought about what WRA said, and I say not really.

As always you're wrong. Islamism is awful and regularly used to commit massive rights violations.

[Kash Island]

damn near every ideology has atrocities under it's belt.

The difference is that A: not every country adhering to a non-Fascist ideology has atrocities attributed to its leading ideology and B: people adhering to non-Fascist ideologies don't tend to actively seek out violence and murder.

A: You can't attribute it directly to it's ideology(please show me in the doctrine of fascism where it advocates this)

B: this is also false, Fascists don't activity seek out to commit violence/murder people just like Communists don't actively seek out to burn rich people's houses down.

[Torrocca]

The difference is that A: not every country adhering to a non-Fascist ideology has atrocities attributed to its leading ideology and B: people adhering to non-Fascist ideologies don't tend to actively seek out violence and murder.

A: You can't attribute it directly to it's ideology(please show me in the doctrine of fascism where it advocates this)

What is unaccountable government totalitarianism advocated by Fascism?

B: this is also false, Fascists don't activity seek out to commit violence/murder people just like Communists don't actively seek out to burn rich people's houses down.

What is Charlottesville or literally all of Europe in the 20s, 30s, and 40s?

[Kubumba Tribe]

But it's less with the army isn't trying to do so.
Also, war doesn't necessarily lead to war crimes. A benevolent army only fighting the enemy wouldn't commit war crimes.

to the highlighted: nothing in fascism dictates the military to commit war crimes(if you could show me a quote from the Doctrine of Fascism that states otherwise, please by all means)

Never said they did.

[Thanatttynia]

I'd say that's a matter of opinion. I think fascist ideology as I understand it at the very least encourages atrocities. It's not that the things they advocate can't be achieved without violence of that kind, it's just that in the real world it wouldn't ever be achieved without it.

I mean, hell, it (that being Mussolini's Doctrine of Fascism) literally states that it's a totalitarian ideology. That alone says what needs to be said when it comes to whether or not Fascism leads to atrocities.

Right. Totalitarianism is impossible to achieve without atrocities.

I'd say that's a matter of opinion. I think fascist ideology as I understand it at the very least encourages atrocities. It's not that the things they advocate can't be achieved without violence of that kind, it's just that in the real world it wouldn't ever be achieved without it.

War crimes happen sure, but that's just a fact of ANY war, but not a direct result of fascism, you could possibly say it can be indirectly a result.

Theoretically a fascistic state could not commit any war crimes in a war, but how likely is that in a heavily militarised, totalitarian state fighting against an enemy of the state? Is it more or less likely than a modern liberal democracy committing war crimes?

[Kash Island]

A: You can't attribute it directly to it's ideology(please show me in the doctrine of fascism where it advocates this)

What is unaccountable government totalitarianism advocated by Fascism?

B: this is also false, Fascists don't activity seek out to commit violence/murder people just like Communists don't actively seek out to burn rich people's houses down.

What is Charlottesville or literally all of Europe in the 20s, 30s, and 40s?

Charlottesville? One person ran someone over...I guess since Bin Laden orchestrated 9/11 all muslims are terrorists then huh?

(also most of those cucks were more national socialist than Fascist)

[-United Republic of Freedonia]

Tbqh Mussolini never should have joined up with Hitler, that was imo his biggest mistake.

He was forced after being targeted by the freemason run west.

But Franco didn't entered the war and he was just fine after that. Why the "Masons" should go at war with Italy?.

And stop guys. The Jews are just puppets, we're being fucking used, it's all an dirty and dark joke.

The Minecraft Canadian Letsplayers are the true overlords of the planet.

[Kash Island]

I mean, hell, it (that being Mussolini's Doctrine of Fascism) literally states that it's a totalitarian ideology. That alone says what needs to be said when it comes to whether or not Fascism leads to atrocities.

Right. Totalitarianism is impossible to achieve without atrocities.

War crimes happen sure, but that's just a fact of ANY war, but not a direct result of fascism, you could possibly say it can be indirectly a result.

Theoretically a fascistic state could not commit any war crimes in a war, but how likely is that in a heavily militarised, totalitarian state fighting against an enemy of the state? Is it more or less likely than a modern liberal democracy committing war crimes?

false, totalitarianism can be acheived without atrocities, now I would concede that abuses are a certainty because you have to keep people in line, but outright atrocities are not a requirement.

[New Emeline]

He was forced after being targeted by the freemason run west.

But Franco didn't entered the war and he was just fine after that. Why the "Masons" should go at war with Italy?.

And stop guys. The Jews are just puppets, we're being fucking used, it's all an dirty and dark joke.

The Minecraft Canadian Letsplayers are the true overlords of the planet.

You've been duped! The Roblox players are the true puppet masters of this earth

[Cekoviu]

What is unaccountable government totalitarianism advocated by Fascism?



What is Charlottesville or literally all of Europe in the 20s, 30s, and 40s?

Charlottesville? One person ran someone over...I guess since Bin Laden orchestrated 9/11 all muslims are terrorists then huh?

Torrocca didn't say all fascists did it, but you said all fascists don't, so they disproved your assertion. If I said "Muslims don't [ever] engage in terrorist activity," you could point out Al-Qaeda, ISIS, etc. and it would prove me wrong.

[Kash Island]

Charlottesville? One person ran someone over...I guess since Bin Laden orchestrated 9/11 all muslims are terrorists then huh?

Torrocca didn't say all fascists did it, but you said all fascists don't, so they disproved your assertion. If I said "Muslims don't [ever] engage in terrorist activity," you could point out Al-Qaeda, ISIS, etc. and it would prove me wrong.

"people adhering to non-Fascist ideologies don't tend to actively seek out violence and murder."

that implies that Fascists tend to actively seek out violence and murder...