Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 6:32 pmCommunist Zombie Horde wrote:Fascism= social conservatism +nationalism -any freedom for non-corporates
I don't know where people get the weird idea that corporations are darlings of fascism.
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 6:32 pmPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 6:33 pmI don't know where people get the weird idea that corporations are darlings of fascism.
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 6:34 pmPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 6:35 pmPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 6:35 pmUnited Muscovite Nations wrote:The Parkus Empire wrote:A word which is used quite frequently, but with different definitions by different users. Some people will use it very narrowly, others will say it includes leaders such as Franco and Dollfuss, and yet others will expand it so much to include the Soviet Union (which I frankly find ridiculous, as the Soviet Union was highly meritocratic and had an unprecedented degree of racial and gender equality, especially for the 1920's).
So what are the criteria of fascism? Feel free to post yours, but here are mine.
1. Totalitarian (not simply authoritarian).
2. Extremely socially conservative, with the caveat that the bond to the state is held to precede all the familial, communal and religious bonds, rather than the reverse.
3. Economically conservative (as opposed to liberal, or socialist).
4. Militaristic
I would say:
>corporatism or syndicalist economic system
>palingenetic ultranationalism
>totalitarianism
>extreme militarism and glorification of violence
I had to do a bit of a double-take with you because of your new flag. Been a while since you've had a Commie one. xP
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 6:36 pmPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 6:36 pmSalus Maior wrote:United Muscovite Nations wrote:I would say:
>corporatism or syndicalist economic system
>palingenetic ultranationalism
>totalitarianism
>extreme militarism and glorification of violence
I had to do a bit of a double-take with you because of your new flag. Been a while since you've had a Commie one. xP
I've got this one to commemorate Victory Day.
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 6:36 pmPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 6:48 pmA nation can only be fascist if it endorses corporatism, otherwise it's just a nationalist and authoritarian dictatorship.
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 6:51 pmMosleyite Britannia wrote:A nation can only be fascist if it endorses corporatism, otherwise it's just a nationalist and authoritarian dictatorship.
what about strasserism, national bolshevism, NOI, the national anarchist movement, juche and the entirety of third positionists?
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 6:54 pmThey're not fascist, especially not anarchists.
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 7:39 pmConsidering the difficulty poli scientists have in defining it, I'm not sure we'll be very successful.
I think one thing we should take away from it is is that traits normally associated with it can occur in any liberal democracy if the circumstances are right, that to varying degrees, every country has "fascist" tendencies.
I think one thing we should take away from it is is that traits normally associated with it can occur in any liberal democracy if the circumstances are right, that to varying degrees, every country has "fascist" tendencies.
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 7:49 pmA conservative authoritarian dictatorship, built on militarism and a need to defeat an enemy that threatens people, usually a perceived threat such as a political group gaining power. It focuses heavily on rebuilding the core values of society by claiming it is going back on that nations tradition.
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 7:59 pm1. whatever i don't like
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 8:00 pmUnderdark Cave wrote:1. whatever i don't like
har de har har
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 8:01 pmPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 8:03 pmPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 8:08 pmPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 8:09 pmPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 8:10 pmPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 8:24 pmFascism is a hard thing to categorize nations under because its criteria, I believe, is very loose. Fascism, coming from fascio, in Italian meaning a bundle of sticks, hence its symbol in Italy.
Fascism, politically, centers on the people working together for the will of the state under a single leader or party with a sense of nationalist. Individually we are weak, but together we form a mighty faggot.
That definition is vague, but that's because facsism itself is vague. It's like the top layer of of clothing out of many. It seems like a single thing on top, but beneath there could be much more. The social aspects of it vary from country to country, but mostly follow the same steps: A focus on family, family values, and appropriate roles of the family in society
Fascism, politically, centers on the people working together for the will of the state under a single leader or party with a sense of nationalist. Individually we are weak, but together we form a mighty faggot.
That definition is vague, but that's because facsism itself is vague. It's like the top layer of of clothing out of many. It seems like a single thing on top, but beneath there could be much more. The social aspects of it vary from country to country, but mostly follow the same steps: A focus on family, family values, and appropriate roles of the family in society
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 9:00 pmLux Pulchrae wrote:[...]together we form a mighty faggot. [...]
hehehehehehehe
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:15 pmIn all honesty though, id say one of the more fascist presidents we had in modern history would probably be Barack Hussein Obama.
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:21 pmPopulism, bossiness and sexy uniforms.
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:24 pm