Fascism

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@legionary appalachia
if you put that way it sounds pretty good

You'd swear he was a fascist trying to promote fascism or something.

Nah, that can't be it....

[Cekoviu]

Fascism= social conservatism +nationalism -any freedom for non-corporates

I don't know where people get the weird idea that corporations are darlings of fascism.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Fascism= social conservatism +nationalism -any freedom for non-corporates

I don't know where people get the weird idea that corporations are darlings of fascism.

Because fascist parties explicitly endorsed corporatism.

[Cekoviu]

I don't know where people get the weird idea that corporations are darlings of fascism.

Because fascist parties explicitly endorsed corporatism.

Right. Not corporations, corporatism (like syndicalism).

[Salus Maior]

A word which is used quite frequently, but with different definitions by different users. Some people will use it very narrowly, others will say it includes leaders such as Franco and Dollfuss, and yet others will expand it so much to include the Soviet Union (which I frankly find ridiculous, as the Soviet Union was highly meritocratic and had an unprecedented degree of racial and gender equality, especially for the 1920's).

So what are the criteria of fascism? Feel free to post yours, but here are mine.

1. Totalitarian (not simply authoritarian).
2. Extremely socially conservative, with the caveat that the bond to the state is held to precede all the familial, communal and religious bonds, rather than the reverse.
3. Economically conservative (as opposed to liberal, or socialist).
4. Militaristic

I would say:

>corporatism or syndicalist economic system
>palingenetic ultranationalism
>totalitarianism
>extreme militarism and glorification of violence

I had to do a bit of a double-take with you because of your new flag. Been a while since you've had a Commie one. xP

[United Muscovite Nations]

Because fascist parties explicitly endorsed corporatism.

Right. Not corporations, corporatism (like syndicalism).

A corporatist body is called a corporation.

[United Muscovite Nations]

I would say:

>corporatism or syndicalist economic system
>palingenetic ultranationalism
>totalitarianism
>extreme militarism and glorification of violence

I had to do a bit of a double-take with you because of your new flag. Been a while since you've had a Commie one. xP

I've got this one to commemorate Victory Day.

[Cekoviu]

Right. Not corporations, corporatism (like syndicalism).

A corporatist body is called a corporation.

Urgh, the language surrounding this is confusing. We're probably using different definitions.

[Mosleyite Britannia]

A nation can only be fascist if it endorses corporatism, otherwise it's just a nationalist and authoritarian dictatorship.

[Irou]

A nation can only be fascist if it endorses corporatism, otherwise it's just a nationalist and authoritarian dictatorship.

what about strasserism, national bolshevism, NOI, the national anarchist movement, juche and the entirety of third positionists?

[Mosleyite Britannia]

A nation can only be fascist if it endorses corporatism, otherwise it's just a nationalist and authoritarian dictatorship.

what about strasserism, national bolshevism, NOI, the national anarchist movement, juche and the entirety of third positionists?

They're not fascist, especially not anarchists.

[Mike the Progressive]

Considering the difficulty poli scientists have in defining it, I'm not sure we'll be very successful.

I think one thing we should take away from it is is that traits normally associated with it can occur in any liberal democracy if the circumstances are right, that to varying degrees, every country has "fascist" tendencies.

[Internationalist Bastard]

A conservative authoritarian dictatorship, built on militarism and a need to defeat an enemy that threatens people, usually a perceived threat such as a political group gaining power. It focuses heavily on rebuilding the core values of society by claiming it is going back on that nations tradition.

[Underdark Cave]

1. whatever i don't like

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1. whatever i don't like

har de har har

[Underdark Cave]

1. whatever i don't like

har de har har

shut it fascist

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har de har har

shut it fascist

no u

[Underdark Cave]

shut it fascist

no u

I'm gonna get warned by the fascists again so I'll shut it

[Mike the Progressive]

no u

I'm gonna get warned by the fascists again so I'll shut it

I.. what?

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I'm gonna get warned by the fascists again so I'll shut it

I.. what?

I think he means the mods?

[Lux Pulchrae]

Fascism is a hard thing to categorize nations under because its criteria, I believe, is very loose. Fascism, coming from fascio, in Italian meaning a bundle of sticks, hence its symbol in Italy.

Fascism, politically, centers on the people working together for the will of the state under a single leader or party with a sense of nationalist. Individually we are weak, but together we form a mighty faggot.

That definition is vague, but that's because facsism itself is vague. It's like the top layer of of clothing out of many. It seems like a single thing on top, but beneath there could be much more. The social aspects of it vary from country to country, but mostly follow the same steps: A focus on family, family values, and appropriate roles of the family in society

[Underdark Cave]

[...]together we form a mighty faggot. [...]

hehehehehehehe

[Mike the Progressive]

In all honesty though, id say one of the more fascist presidents we had in modern history would probably be Barack Hussein Obama.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Populism, bossiness and sexy uniforms.

[Irou]