Fascism

[Based Groyper]

In my opinion, Fascism had its mishaps but on the whole did more Good than Harm.

[Dominara]

In my opinion, Fascism had its mishaps but on the whole did more Good than Harm.

I agree wholeheartedly. Also, your flag is a dead meme. wonderful.

[Based Groyper]

In my opinion, Fascism had its mishaps but on the whole did more Good than Harm.

I agree wholeheartedly. Also, your flag is a dead meme.

No. It is not. And I ask that you retract that comment.

[Dominara]

I agree wholeheartedly. Also, your flag is a dead meme.

No. It is not. And I ask that you retract that comment.

I am so sorry sir.

[Len Hyet]

In my opinion, Fascism had its mishaps but on the whole did more Good than Harm.

I'll offer $5 for a 2 post over/under on how long it takes him to deny the holocaust. Any takers?

[Dominara]

In my opinion, Fascism had its mishaps but on the whole did more Good than Harm.

I'll offer $5 for a 2 post over/under on how long it takes him to deny the holocaust. Any takers?

He won't do it now, you've told him our master plan

[Fahran]

In my opinion, Fascism had its mishaps but on the whole did more Good than Harm.

I'll offer $5 for a 2 post over/under on how long it takes him to deny the holocaust. Any takers?

I give it 5 posts or more. Fight me.

[Pilarcraft]

In my opinion, Fascism had its mishaps but on the whole did more Good than Harm.

I'll offer $5 for a 2 post over/under on how long it takes him to deny the holocaust. Any takers?

You spoiled it. Now it'll take 3 posts.

[-United Republic of Freedonia]

Yo, what you guys think of the Order of Nine Angles and this... thing.

Esoteric Hitlerism

"What it is: A mixture of Nazism and a sort of bastardized Hinduism, with a dash of mysticism for flavor. Savitri Devi, the writer and "philosopher" who created the idea and who was deeply influential on later neo-Nazi movements, took Aryanism to a whole 'nother level, stating that not only did the Aryans come from India, but Hinduism was Aryan and Indian peoples in general were all Aryan and thusly connecting pan-Hindu ideologies and Indian nationalism to Nazism. She also applied Nazism to Greek nationalism, and argued for a sort of Pan-European identity based on Aryanism. She was also a great admirer of the Indian caste system, believing that the survival of light-skinned Brahmins after so many centuries in a multiracial society provided "living proof" that racial segregation laws would work.

The core of her philosophy, however, was a sort of apocalyptic millenarianism which fits very neatly into Nazism; according to her, the current age of the world was one of historical and racial degradation, in which increasing violence (called "lightning" by her, committed by 'unclean races', of course) had degraded the pure Aryan race, naturally a group of pacifistic, vegetarian uebermenschen, into the state she saw in her lifetime and also kept esoteric truth (referred to by her as "sun") from manifesting in the world.

From this she went on to establish the three types of great men which in her view guided history; the "Men in Time," "Men above Time," and "Men against Time". "Men in Time" are creatures of their era; guided wholly by self-interest and consumed by violence (she gives Genghis Khan as an example). "Men above Time" are those which have some fragment of the higher and esoteric truth of the world, but are doomed to failure by the age they live in (she gives Akhenaten as an example). Finally, "Men against Time" are those which understand the higher truths, but use the violent methods of the age in order to bring them forth into the world (she gives Hitler as an example). She also claims here both that Hitler was the ninth and penultimate avatar of Vishnu, sent into the world to preserve it, and that he failed because he was, in her words, "too magnanimous, too trusting, too good". Yes, that's right; we've reached that lovely part of the far-right that argues that HITLER WAS TOO NICE.

Anyway, her final idea and one of the more important in understanding how her version of a Nazi state would be is that Kalki the Destroyer, the final avatar of Vishnu, would be much, much more merciless than Hitler, and annihilate "...the lukewarm, the opportunists, the ideologically heretical, the unhealthy, the hesitating, the all-too-human; not a single one [would be left] of those who, in body or in character or in mind, bear the stamp of the fallen Ages." So, to summarize; we have an ideology that takes National Socialism, adds a strongly mystical and Hindu flavor to it, brings in the Indian caste system as a method of social organization, and advocates the mass murder of all those who don't fervently support the idea. It's rare that I find this to be true, but a state organized by this woman would most likely have been worse and much more horrifying than Hitler."

[West Leas Oros]

Yo, what you guys think of the Order of Nine Angles and this... thing.

Esoteric Hitlerism

"What it is: A mixture of Nazism and a sort of bastardized Hinduism, with a dash of mysticism for flavor. Savitri Devi, the writer and "philosopher" who created the idea and who was deeply influential on later neo-Nazi movements, took Aryanism to a whole 'nother level, stating that not only did the Aryans come from India, but Hinduism was Aryan and Indian peoples in general were all Aryan and thusly connecting pan-Hindu ideologies and Indian nationalism to Nazism. She also applied Nazism to Greek nationalism, and argued for a sort of Pan-European identity based on Aryanism. She was also a great admirer of the Indian caste system, believing that the survival of light-skinned Brahmins after so many centuries in a multiracial society provided "living proof" that racial segregation laws would work.

The core of her philosophy, however, was a sort of apocalyptic millenarianism which fits very neatly into Nazism; according to her, the current age of the world was one of historical and racial degradation, in which increasing violence (called "lightning" by her, committed by 'unclean races', of course) had degraded the pure Aryan race, naturally a group of pacifistic, vegetarian uebermenschen, into the state she saw in her lifetime and also kept esoteric truth (referred to by her as "sun") from manifesting in the world.

From this she went on to establish the three types of great men which in her view guided history; the "Men in Time," "Men above Time," and "Men against Time". "Men in Time" are creatures of their era; guided wholly by self-interest and consumed by violence (she gives Genghis Khan as an example). "Men above Time" are those which have some fragment of the higher and esoteric truth of the world, but are doomed to failure by the age they live in (she gives Akhenaten as an example). Finally, "Men against Time" are those which understand the higher truths, but use the violent methods of the age in order to bring them forth into the world (she gives Hitler as an example). She also claims here both that Hitler was the ninth and penultimate avatar of Vishnu, sent into the world to preserve it, and that he failed because he was, in her words, "too magnanimous, too trusting, too good". Yes, that's right; we've reached that lovely part of the far-right that argues that HITLER WAS TOO NICE.

Anyway, her final idea and one of the more important in understanding how her version of a Nazi state would be is that Kalki the Destroyer, the final avatar of Vishnu, would be much, much more merciless than Hitler, and annihilate "...the lukewarm, the opportunists, the ideologically heretical, the unhealthy, the hesitating, the all-too-human; not a single one [would be left] of those who, in body or in character or in mind, bear the stamp of the fallen Ages." So, to summarize; we have an ideology that takes National Socialism, adds a strongly mystical and Hindu flavor to it, brings in the Indian caste system as a method of social organization, and advocates the mass murder of all those who don't fervently support the idea. It's rare that I find this to be true, but a state organized by this woman would most likely have been worse and much more horrifying than Hitler."

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[Irou]

Yo, what you guys think of the Order of Nine Angles and this... thing.

Esoteric Hitlerism

"What it is: A mixture of Nazism and a sort of bastardized Hinduism, with a dash of mysticism for flavor. Savitri Devi, the writer and "philosopher" who created the idea and who was deeply influential on later neo-Nazi movements, took Aryanism to a whole 'nother level, stating that not only did the Aryans come from India, but Hinduism was Aryan and Indian peoples in general were all Aryan and thusly connecting pan-Hindu ideologies and Indian nationalism to Nazism. She also applied Nazism to Greek nationalism, and argued for a sort of Pan-European identity based on Aryanism. She was also a great admirer of the Indian caste system, believing that the survival of light-skinned Brahmins after so many centuries in a multiracial society provided "living proof" that racial segregation laws would work.

The core of her philosophy, however, was a sort of apocalyptic millenarianism which fits very neatly into Nazism; according to her, the current age of the world was one of historical and racial degradation, in which increasing violence (called "lightning" by her, committed by 'unclean races', of course) had degraded the pure Aryan race, naturally a group of pacifistic, vegetarian uebermenschen, into the state she saw in her lifetime and also kept esoteric truth (referred to by her as "sun") from manifesting in the world.

From this she went on to establish the three types of great men which in her view guided history; the "Men in Time," "Men above Time," and "Men against Time". "Men in Time" are creatures of their era; guided wholly by self-interest and consumed by violence (she gives Genghis Khan as an example). "Men above Time" are those which have some fragment of the higher and esoteric truth of the world, but are doomed to failure by the age they live in (she gives Akhenaten as an example). Finally, "Men against Time" are those which understand the higher truths, but use the violent methods of the age in order to bring them forth into the world (she gives Hitler as an example). She also claims here both that Hitler was the ninth and penultimate avatar of Vishnu, sent into the world to preserve it, and that he failed because he was, in her words, "too magnanimous, too trusting, too good". Yes, that's right; we've reached that lovely part of the far-right that argues that HITLER WAS TOO NICE.

Anyway, her final idea and one of the more important in understanding how her version of a Nazi state would be is that Kalki the Destroyer, the final avatar of Vishnu, would be much, much more merciless than Hitler, and annihilate "...the lukewarm, the opportunists, the ideologically heretical, the unhealthy, the hesitating, the all-too-human; not a single one [would be left] of those who, in body or in character or in mind, bear the stamp of the fallen Ages." So, to summarize; we have an ideology that takes National Socialism, adds a strongly mystical and Hindu flavor to it, brings in the Indian caste system as a method of social organization, and advocates the mass murder of all those who don't fervently support the idea. It's rare that I find this to be true, but a state organized by this woman would most likely have been worse and much more horrifying than Hitler."

Groovy

[The Autonomous region of Helsinki]

In my opinion, Fascism had its mishaps but on the whole did more Good than Harm.

Please explain. I want to understand what you mean.

[West Leas Oros]

I agree wholeheartedly. Also, your flag is a dead meme.

No. It is not. And I ask that you retract that comment.

I’ll be honest, as a memer, that is the ugliest Pepe I’ve ever seen.

[Reikoku]

No. It is not. And I ask that you retract that comment.

I’ll be honest, as a memer, that is the ugliest Pepe I’ve ever seen.

It looks like what would happen nine months after Bill Cosby offered a frog something to drink...

[Cekoviu]

No. It is not. And I ask that you retract that comment.

I’ll be honest, as a memer, that is the ugliest Pepe I’ve ever seen.

It's Groyper, the crappy alt-right knockoff version, not legitimate Pepe^TM.

[Internationalist Bastard]

In my opinion, Fascism had its mishaps but on the whole did more Good than Harm.

I can think of far more ways into hurt people then the ways it helped

[Reikoku]

In my opinion, Fascism had its mishaps but on the whole did more Good than Harm.

What good things did it accomplish? Because it resulted in total military disaster for Germany and Italy, with the Soviet Union ruling half of Europe.

[Internationalist Bastard]

In my opinion, Fascism had its mishaps but on the whole did more Good than Harm.

What good things did it accomplish? Because it resulted in total military disaster for Germany and Italy, with the Soviet Union ruling half of Europe.

Ironically fascism ended with Communism spreading and their counties weaker

[West Leas Oros]

I’ll be honest, as a memer, that is the ugliest Pepe I’ve ever seen.

It's Groyper, the crappy alt-right knockoff version, not legitimate Pepe^TM.

There is glorious communist groyper, so do not despair comrade!

[Genivaria]

Here's a question.
If the Strasserites took power in Germany would they have been buddies with Stalin?

[Torrocca]

Here's a question.
If the Starrerists took power in Germany would they have been buddies with Stalin?

Maybe to a degree, depending on how anti-Semitic Stalin's policies turned out to be with a Strasserist Germany to deal with instead of a plain old Nazi Germany.

[Reikoku]

Here's a question.
If the Starrerists took power in Germany would they have been buddies with Stalin?

It seems like that would be something that the Strassers would definitely have been interested in pursuing, and I don't think Stalin would have been entirely opposed to such overtures. Considering he and Molotov were willing to collaborate with Hitler and split most of Europe together.

[Oil exporting People]

Here's a question.
If the Strasserites took power in Germany would they have been buddies with Stalin?

Unlikely with Stalin at the helm.

[Cekoviu]

Here's a question.
If the Strasserites took power in Germany would they have been buddies with Stalin?

You should ask Dumb Ideologies, resident Strasserist.

[Oil exporting People]

Here's a question.
If the Strasserites took power in Germany would they have been buddies with Stalin?

You should ask Dumb Ideologies, resident Strasserist.

This explains a lot.